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So still not convinced she’s a whore yet? Do you need her to actually come out and tell you personally
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So having a one night stand 3some with giving up anal which she won’t even do with hubby even though he wanted it is not being a whore?
blowing and fucking his boss in the bathroom, is not being a whore?
giving the hubbys boss road head in the car and then getting fucked in your own driveway, the front lawn, trunk of suv is not being a whore?
Fucking Christian’s client in a hotel and then cancelling dinner with hubby to run back to boss to get fucked all night again, still not a whore?
So if your wife acted like this, you wouldn’t think she’s being a whore? :ROFLMAO:
IHATESlowburnBluBallgames You have to stop arguing with this individual, your being trolled by an actual femininst
 
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noahsombrero

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Generally speaking, nobody can claim on one hand to love and care about their husband or wife, while simultaneously cheating on them, that's hypocrisy with double standards mixed in with the entitlement salad.

Cheating is cheating, its not a complax choice, it's a simple one between yes and no and Vivian chose yes. If you look back at Vivians character and her actions she's the main instigator:
Cheating is cheating, but it usually not that simple. People have reasons for what they do that most of the time are not depraved.

Regardless, did you not understand that this is a ntr game? Did you not come here to see ntr? Would you play a harem game and then complain that the mc was collecting a harem? Harems being more objectionable in many people's minds than cheating on a spouse. You can actually go to jail for bigamy. The worst that cheating will do is get you divorced.
 

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So still not convinced she’s a whore yet? Do you need her to actually come out and tell you personally
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So having a one night stand 3some with giving up anal which she won’t even do with hubby even though he wanted it is not being a whore?
blowing and fucking his boss in the bathroom, is not being a whore?
giving the hubbys boss road head in the car and then getting fucked in your own driveway, the front lawn, trunk of suv is not being a whore?
Fucking Christian’s client in a hotel and then cancelling dinner with hubby to run back to boss to get fucked all night again, still not a whore?
So if your wife acted like this, you wouldn’t think she’s being a whore? :ROFLMAO:
No, my definition of whore is a little more specific. People can cheat on a spouse without being a whore or a gigolo. If my wife acted like that, she would find her luggage on the porch, but she would still not be a whore. She would certainly be promiscuous though. Not the same as a whore.
 

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Generally speaking, nobody can claim on one hand to love and care about their husband or wife, while simultaneously cheating on them, that's hypocrisy with double standards mixed in with the entitlement salad.

Cheating is cheating, its not a complax choice, it's a simple one between yes and no and Vivian chose yes. If you look back at Vivians character and her actions she's the main instigator:

Chp1:

1. Vivian threats her husband like hes a child incapable of looking aftet his own affairs,

she goes behind Hutches back, dresses like a slutty school girl ( not a professional lady), approaches Christian ( in the early hours of the morning when theirs no one around) and basically tries to sexually seduce Christian in his office. Christian sees through her, side-steps her advances, which has Vivian hooked on him. On the drive back home, she licks her lips as she can't stop thinking about Christian. For the first time in her life, she's been non-verbally told NO, and she liked it.

2: she emasculates her husband Hutch by ignoring his request not to join him at the first meeting at Christian house, going anyway as she is wet between the legs to be around her Mr.No, the Alpha dog that she's always wanted, Christian. She further emasculates Hutch by wearing high-heels, as we see Hutch state the following " I don't like it when you wear hight-heels", this was deliberately done by Vivian as she want to visually show Christian "here look at this wee twat of a man I don't want him, I want you Christian"

3. As we find out in Chp2 ending, that it was Vivian that initiated the sex in the garden, first time around, not Christian.

4: she goes on to fuck Christian all night long with her husband in the next room, sneaking to and from the kitchen back to Christian bedroom like a untrustworthy child waiting for their parents to be asleep to steal a biscuit or two from the cookie jar.

5: later in Chp1, she's really goes for Hutches troat, she doesn't just emasculate him this time, she out right humiliates him infront of all of his office college's by showing up at his work place dressed like a lady with a lovely dress and hat, as she proceeds to have sex with Christian in the bathroom as everyone is working in the next room, what a kick in the singers for Hutch

6: at the end of Chp1, Vivian is completely obsessed with Christian, and she very cleaverly manipulates Hutch with 101 narcissist persuions tactics into accepting her open marriage proposal scenario, with "I'm doing this for us, I'm doing this for YOU", what an absolute slag of a woman

Chp2:

1. She dress like a complete whore, for the dinner date, as she sexually objectifys herself by wearing a dress with her tits hanging out for the world to see. That dress ( much like women wearing yoga pants today, with the crack of their arses and snatches hanging out for the world to see) leaves nothing to the imagination and sends out social signal's that those yoga pants wearing women, but in the case of the character Vivian are nothing more than a cheap attention seeking whores and an easy lays. Yoga pants along with multicolored hair, 90s tramp stamps and nose rings are ( and this has been proven by actual psychological studies) alarming identifiets and red-flags sign's of a traumised individual with deep emotional scares and in the case of Vivians character, that your dealing with a low value women, which Vivian clearly is.

2: after the dinner date, it is Vivian that starts the conversation in the car about the size of Christian cock, it's Vivian that can't stop talking about Christian cock and it's Vivian that asks Christian to take his cock out and it's Vivian that initiates the sex in the car.

3: outside her own house, she proceeds to take things to the next level, emasculating her husband wasnt enough, humiliating him isn't even enough either, she's has to literally destroy him and herself and her marriage by having sex with Christian in front of the whole neighbourhood, naked. What a disgusting woman, it's all me, me, me and more me but then again, what do you expect from a so-called modern day woman, hypocritical cheap slags that they are.

4: Hutch was never enough for Vivian to begin with, thats clear to everyone, but now the Christian experience is starting to wear thin with her also, ( I guess a yoga pants wearing, short haired, nose pierced cheap whore can never be satisfied) she decides to "Go-it-Alone" sitting in her house wearing Christian t-shirt ( not any of Hutch's) she uses her husband and her lovers absence as an excuse to further her narcissist open marriage sexual trill seeking antics by heading out and allowing herself to be picked-up for a threesome. She then proceeds to hand her anal Virginity away to a complete stranger ( fist time around) after dening that pleasure to Hutch for 20 years as she tells sunshine that she wants her stink whole loosed not for her husband but for her lover Christian.

5: she then gives her number to a student, alarming bells there

6: dont be fooled by the hotel grape sence, Vivian could have easily walked away but we know she is a narcissist trill seeker, who seeks social validation through sexually objectifying herself though the only skill she got to offer anyone and that is sex. When the new client opened his hotel door, she deliberately walked head- first into that trap. she knew what was required of her and she went for it, only to play the victim later as all modern-day 3rd and 4th wave feminist slags do, as they rewrite history and their actions in their heads to justify their entitled and despicable choices, this is further backed up as she tells Christian that she loved being taking and graped, it made her feel powerful, that she now feels that she could do anything, as she goes on to tell Christian "I'm yours now "

Q: looking back, dose any of Vivian's dissions and action's betray a woman that is a loving a wife and mother, that is doing all that she can to protect and safegard her husband and his career and their family? Or do Vivian's choices and her actions reveal that she is a very selfishly, self-interested, self-serving, impulsively, manipulative 3rd and 4th wave entitled narcissist feminist gold-digger? Vivians choices and actions show that she is looking after one person and one person only, and thats herself, Vivian is safe garding her own long-term interests with her deluded, entitled monkey branching behaviour?
Most of what you say here has already been said numerous times, and the parts that are true I have already said many times. In the post you are replying to I said that Vivian's flaws are that she is selfish, overconfident, manipulative, and insecure. I never said cheating isn't cheating, and I said many times that Vivian cheated on Hutch, so trying to imply that I denied that Vivian cheated on Hutch isn't based on what I said. I also pointed out how she manipulated Hutch, and tried, unsuccessfully to manipulate Christian. I didn't even say that she loved Hutch, but I said it is clear she feels a great deal of affection for him, and that she was tormented by her guilt over cheating on him, both of which are true, despite your unwillingness to recognize what the author is CLEARLY trying to communicate in the story. I have already talked about how Vivian has emasculated Hutch in numerous posts, and listed how she wasn't a good wife even before she fucked Christian. As far as her initiating the sex in the garden, she did that because Christian was using the threat of Hutch loosing his job to blackmail her. I, and several others, have already said many times that Vivian was sexually attracted to Christian when she first met him, and we pointed to the same situations that you mentioned in your comments. The author made it clear, as I showed in a recent post, that despite her physical attraction to Christian, she wasn't willing to fuck him until she became convinced it was the only way Hutch would keep his job. The author also made it clear, as I showed in the same post, that Vivian's motivations have changed over the course of the 2 chapters. Your comments, like Noah's (who I have on ignore) seem to be based on an unwillingness to recognize any evidence that contradicts your preconception of Vivian. In his case, and in the case of some others, they worship her like she is a goddess, and in your case, you demonize her like her every thought and feeling is evil. Per your position, it doesn't matter that she is CLEARLY distraught in the shower ALL BY HERSELF crying about betraying her husband, with no one to "perform" to, she didn't really feel guilty. It doesn't matter that she was CLEARLY still distraught over betraying Hutch when she visited her son and his roommates, even though she could not have been performing for them since THEY DID NOT KNOW she cheated on Hutch, instead per your position, she did not really feel guilty. I am perfectly willing for people on this thread to compare my posts to yours, and to determine which of us is basing our comments on what is actually going on in the story, and which of us is being more logical in our conclusions.
 

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In his case, and in the case of some others, they worship her like she is a goddess, and in your case, you demonize her like her every thought and feeling is evil.
I understand that you are reaching for a convincing comparison, but it is not true that I worship Wife. I do think she gets a raw deal from dylan and some others so I defend her.

The most convincing argument I have heard here is that the game does not explain how it is that Wife gives in to Boss as completely as she does. It might be that the first time in the garden was all about saving Husband's job. I don't really think the game clearly shows us that. All we see is her getting fucked.

Wife as the the spouse of 20 some years, high school teacher, responsible person, etc. How does she become sex crazed for the dick of a homewrecker? I'm sure dylan could give his idea of the reasons, but I don't agree. The transformation is too jarring in my mind.

Anyway, DA, I do agree with most of your stuff, find it at least worth reading. Sorry to hear you are unable to tolerate my waywardness.
 

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Here's a question. How would/will Vivian react if/when she catches Christian banging another woman? Will she be angry or pleased? Angry because she considers him her man or pleased that this means he's moving on from her and she can return to her previous life with Hutch?
 

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Here's a question. How would/will Vivian react if/when she catches Christian banging another woman? Will she be angry or pleased? Angry because she considers him her man or pleased that this means he's moving on from her and she can return to her previous life with Hutch?
Good point.... wonder if we will see that.. Maybe in the final chapter.
 
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Here's a question. How would/will Vivian react if/when she catches Christian banging another woman? Will she be angry or pleased? Angry because she considers him her man or pleased that this means he's moving on from her and she can return to her previous life with Hutch?
She tells sunshine that she can't bear the thought of him having sex with another woman. I think she meant what she said, and that she is aware of the disconnect with her own behavior.
 
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She tells sunshine that she can't bear the thought of him having sex with another woman. I think she meant what she said, and that she is aware of the disconnect with her own behavior.
In this case she was talking about Hutch. The user you're quoting is asking if she catches Christian fucking another woman. But yeah, at this stage it will be the same or even worse.
 

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Here's a question. How would/will Vivian react if/when she catches Christian banging another woman? Will she be angry or pleased? Angry because she considers him her man or pleased that this means he's moving on from her and she can return to her previous life with Hutch?
That is a break point my friend. Getting excited...
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Here's a question. How would/will Vivian react if/when she catches Christian banging another woman? Will she be angry or pleased? Angry because she considers him her man or pleased that this means he's moving on from her and she can return to her previous life with Hutch?
Probly like Glenn Close in “Fatal Attraction”
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Here's a question. How would/will Vivian react if/when she catches Christian banging another woman? Will she be angry or pleased? Angry because she considers him her man or pleased that this means he's moving on from her and she can return to her previous life with Hutch?
She would mald like fuck IMO. And I would be so here for it. She needs a little fucking reality check.

And then maybe, JUST MAYBE. it could happen just far enough down the line that it could coincide, with Hutch dipping on the bitch and getting with a lovely new lady known as Addison?...:love:

Hit her with that DOUBLE reality check, that she now has nobody. :giggle:
 

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She would mald like fuck IMO. And I would be so here for it. She needs a little fucking reality check.

And then maybe, JUST MAYBE. it could happen just far enough down the line that it could coincide, with Hutch dipping on the bitch and getting with a lovely new lady known as Addison?...:love:

Hit her with that DOUBLE reality check, that she now has nobody. :giggle:
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In this case she was talking about Hutch. The user you're quoting is asking if she catches Christian fucking another woman. But yeah, at this stage it will be the same or even worse.
You are right. Ok. Here is a possibility. There is that pic that SC provided showing Wife with Boss's hand on her chin while she looks at him in fury. So could be Boss got caught right there. Maybe. Funny how players don't want to include that scene in their speculations.
 
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You are right. Ok. Here is a possibility. There is that pic that SC provided showing Wife with Boss's hand on her chin while she looks at him in fury. So could be Boss got caught right there. Maybe. Funny how players don't want to include that scene in their speculations.
This image is the representation of her post-nut reaction every time she's with him. She always have tantrums with Christian, so it could be anything, really. The only time she was calmer was while they were fucking in office's bathroom.

For a change, I wouldn't mind a threesome with Christian and the blonde showed in the last teaser set.
 
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Christian said that he's banged other wives. So I wouldn't be surprised if she still has one or two on call. He also said that some other husbands enjoyed seeing their wives getting pleasure from him. Despite what Viv said that Hutch isn't like that. I could see him try to manipulate her in that direction.
 

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Christian said that he's banged other wives. So I wouldn't be surprised if she still has one or two on call. He also said that some other husbands enjoyed seeing their wives getting pleasure from him. Despite what Viv said that Hutch isn't like that. I could see him try to manipulate her in that direction.
There is also the scene where he's texting her while in bed with a mysterious blonde (whom some thought was Addison, or a relative of hers). He's obviously fucking more than once at a time.
As for the cuckolding, it's already in place. Although, as other pointed out, Hutch can be spineless, passive, with no personality, but it doesn't look like he will finally enjoy seeing Vivian getting rammed in front of him. He has been betrayed by his wife and hurt by her and his boss. He hasn't discovered some new sexual kink. It wouldn't make sense.
 
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Here's a question. How would/will Vivian react if/when she catches Christian banging another woman? Will she be angry or pleased? Angry because she considers him her man or pleased that this means he's moving on from her and she can return to her previous life with Hutch?
at no point is viv forced into anything that has happened, she has also had many oppertunities to walk away. almost everything weve seen has been vivs choice. chris even throws this in her face at the end of chap 2. if she wanted to return to her previous life, she would have.
 

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You are right. Ok. Here is a possibility. There is that pic that SC provided showing Wife with Boss's hand on her chin while she looks at him in fury. So could be Boss got caught right there. Maybe. Funny how players don't want to include that scene in their speculations.
not funny, just obvious. she either caught him, or more likely got told to close another deal. shes mad, and chris is reminding her (again) that he owns her and she will do as told.....and she will. even sc says vivs not that deep, this follows her pattern.
 

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at no point is viv forced into anything that has happened, she has also had many oppertunities to walk away. almost everything weve seen has been vivs choice. chris even throws this in her face at the end of chap 2. if she wanted to return to her previous life, she would have.
You are assuming that she believes what he is saying.... there was a time in chapter one ... before the bathroom scene where he did say if she did not work for him there would be layoffs and they would be her fault.
 
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