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I have just played the game again and something called my attention. When Hutch and Vivian are arriving at boss' house, Hutch complains that he does not like Vivian using heels, because she makes him look small. After that, she says, we are not small you are "fun" size. And then Hutch replies. Not tonight, implying he does not like this joke.

I think this particular dialogue shows that Vivian is not only dominant, but she also likes to make fun of her husband, indicating , at some degree, a tendency of liking humiliating him. English is not my native language, but hearing she says that Hutch is "fun" size is something a bit degrading (even if she is just focusing in his height, which may not be the case). And this does not seem to be the first time he complains about this "joke".
 

IHATESlowburnBluBallgames

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Code.. seriously.. at this point.. Hutch lost his wife. Why don't you wrote were she has her inner monolog saying how she will let Hutch feel like he is in charge by letting her be the hooker she has always dreamed of being.. the boss and wife played Hutch.. the boss orchestrated while the wife blew him all the way home.. now it's time for real humiliation Hutch, now you feel pain sucker.. Hutch is a loser and we thank him for that so we can watch his wife be the slut God wants her to be
Maybe Vivians ideas for the clients came from watching Erin brockavitch movie
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Yeah, it was clearly just to keep Hutch busy for a while - he wasn't interested in even seeing if anything had been written when they got back.
I really loved Christian's reaction at seeing nothing written on the pad (when they came back to check). It showed that Christian really think Hutch is useless. Even Vivian could maybe jot stuff down. It only reinforces his opinion that Vivian is the brains of the house, and Hutch can only do numbers.
 

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I really loved Christian's reaction at seeing nothing written on the pad (when they came back to check). It showed that Christian really think Hutch is useless. Even Vivian could maybe jot stuff down. It only reinforces his opinion that Vivian is the brains of the house, and Hutch can only do numbers.
Vivian isn't the brains.. she is using what God gave her.. thoroughly over and over
 

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Good chance Hutch loves his wife but what she has done has changed him. He is going to use his wife to either get dirt on Christian that can do him harm or his clients harm. Vivian will be oblivious that her husband is using her. Hutch knows Christian has shady business practices; he'll use her to get his revenge.
think you are foiling your own theory.... "addison" the one character who everyone is thinking is a red herring as someone put it...or was it psychedevil one of you posted a theory about addison helping hutch regarding the deals gone wrong or some such incidents happening and her(addison) helping hutch after she finds out about vivian and christian. think thats a better theory as hutch doesn't want to cheat ... but this way he gets the revenge on christian and vivian is just collateral. excuse me if i butchered your theory.
Even Vivian could maybe jot stuff down
if you think it's that simple in accounting then i hope you never work in the finance department. jokes aside.... she did a lot more than take "stuff" in the backyard.
she is using what God gave her.. thoroughly over and over
harsh... but totally agree..... she has a talent for "getting (of) ;) customer" and as tg posted she may do a better "job" than hutch.
 
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packard1928

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True that... I think Hutch can think for himself. He is just under different pressure to save his job . THen he see Christian and Vivian in the backyard , His mind goes blank. Same when they were in the bathroom. Where I am not sure the game Christian is playing is the talk he has with Hutch in the parking lot. Also the talk he has with Vivian about him being the Man... All interesting....
 

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Code.. seriously.. at this point.. Hutch lost his wife. Why don't you wrote were she has her inner monolog saying how she will let Hutch feel like he is in charge by letting her be the hooker she has always dreamed of being.. the boss and wife played Hutch.. the boss orchestrated while the wife blew him all the way home.. now it's time for real humiliation Hutch, now you feel pain sucker.. Hutch is a loser and we thank him for that so we can watch his wife be the slut God wants her to be
This happens when you give unicellular organisms the opportunity to skip text!
You could have just told me that you didn't even had a clue that the last scenes in the game were labeled as "talking code", lol!
 

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You talked a lot, I don't have time to follow the debate (maybe it's better :) )
I'll throw in my two cents:

brutally speaking : Viv is at the end of its "prime time", if she had led an ordinary life - these are the last moments for unlimited fun. Soon she will have to look for connoisseurs like Macron ;)
I have been in a long-term relationship myself (20+), and I understand all the presented behaviors.
I'm not judging Hutch or Vivian - she's not a whore/slut (not yet), although I'm afraid it's Chris's intrigues will go in this direction.
as I wrote at the beginning - the day Hutch disappeared, was the first day of revenge (on Chris)
He probably saw more than one fallen woman (by Chris) , and he will do anything to save Viv (and maybe marriage) - however, he will be exposed to a real test of will, forgiveness and love (Yes, I know, I'm an unabashed romantic ;) ). Without it we would have the usual fap-games


btw. In my country, there is a name Witold—I don't even want to check where it comes from...
 

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You talked a lot, I don't have time to follow the debate (maybe it's better :) )
I'll throw in my two cents:

brutally speaking : Viv is at the end of its "prime time", if she had led an ordinary life - these are the last moments for unlimited fun. Soon she will have to look for connoisseurs like Macron ;)
I have been in a long-term relationship myself (20+), and I understand all the presented behaviors.
I'm not judging Hutch or Vivian - she's not a whore/slut (not yet), although I'm afraid it's Chris's intrigues will go in this direction.
as I wrote at the beginning - the day Hutch disappeared, was the first day of revenge (on Chris)
He probably saw more than one fallen woman (by Chris) , and he will do anything to save Viv (and maybe marriage) - however, he will be exposed to a real test of will, forgiveness and love (Yes, I know, I'm an unabashed romantic ;) ). Without it we would have the usual fap-games


btw. In my country, there is a name Witold—I don't even want to check where it comes from...
I agree.. just cause she went uninvited to the bosses house with husband totally begging her not them bent over 5 minutes after getting banged doesn't make her whore.. your right
 

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I agree.. just cause she went uninvited to the bosses house with husband totally begging her not them bent over 5 minutes after getting banged doesn't make her whore.. your right
I can easily imagine a situation where she, while accepting the dress, knew she was stepping onto shaky ground but didn’t expect things to escalate so quickly (I think she wanted to play a game with Chris herself, but he’s the master of this game—and he holds all the aces). From Chris’s point of view—when he saw her, he knew she had decided to play a game where he deals the cards. He chose to act quickly, not giving her any time. We even get confirmation of this during the night in the dining room. Viv simply sat down to play with the master—and lost. And the fact that it’s enjoyable… well, that just makes it easier to lose even more.


Your interpretations are very simple—more fitting for SAO or other "classic" Jap-stories.
 

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I just call it the way I see the VN being created and written.. I feel to many times people unintentionally put there own feelings and experiences into reviews.. words mean nothing.. actions to me dictate the story.. so I'm just calling this the way it's being portrayed
 
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packard1928

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True. I am very interested if it will be reviled if Vivian offered herself to Christian in the backyard to save Hutch Job or did Christian tell her to do this to save it ..... and she did so....
 

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btw. In my country, there is a name Witold—I don't even want to check where it comes from...
"Wit", in this context, means "to know" - so it's referring to the person being aware of the fact that his wife is an adultress.
However, for now, most believe that this story is more than just a simple fuck story.
From the several posts I've read, it does seem to me almost like TheDuke9999 is just skim-reading the story. Like he's looking at the very surface level of things, and not taking in the nuances of facial expression and everything else that we get in the renders in the game. Either that or he's largely just trolling those who are actually digging deeply into each individual scene and using that to form their opinions.

I agree, it's not a simple fuck story at all, there's a lot more in it than that, and you don't even have to dig very deep at all to see that.
 

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Talking about the last scenes, what would be better if Hutch was about to divorce her? Having openly told her he knows, or simply asked her to work with him for the sake of the business (without the "work for him")? He could be dragging it out to gather more evidence, or avoid them both knowing his plans.

I was disappointed with the very end where he promises nothing will change their marriage, but there was a delay there while he was thinking, maybe the request for her to always return home is a promise he already knows she wont keep, so why would he need to keep his?

The only good ending I see here is both the boss and wife having their lives destroyed, like they both (knowingly and unknowingly) did to Hutch.
 
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Luc77

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Hold your horses,
we are on the beginnig of the story :)
I assume that SC Stories will surprise us again

SC Stories - I appeal to Your conscience! , Your humanity !!
give us some meat !!!
 

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"Wit", in this context, means "to know" - so it's referring to the person being aware of the fact that his wife is an adultress.

From the several posts I've read, it does seem to me almost like TheDuke9999 is just skim-reading the story. Like he's looking at the very surface level of things, and not taking in the nuances of facial expression and everything else that we get in the renders in the game. Either that or he's largely just trolling those who are actually digging deeply into each individual scene and using that to form their opinions.

I agree, it's not a simple fuck story at all, there's a lot more in it than that, and you don't even have to dig very deep at all to see that.
If you think that I can't stop you.. but if you really follow the story of this VN , do you think Hutch wanted his wife to sleep with his boss to save his job? Do you really think Hutch would choose work over his wife? I believe Hutch would quit that job and keep his wife. Yet his wife in the beginning rejects the boss's advances. Going as far to say he is being inappropriate to the boss.. then at night forces her way to that dinner, humiliated Hutch ALL NIGHT LONG LOUDLY , denies it and goes back for more at hutch's work. Does whatever the boss says knowing the boss won't stop. Then after being so dominate through the story is going to allow Hutch to feel like the man of the house because Hutch basically told her she can bang the boss or anyone for that matter.. what did I get wrong here please tell me..
 

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really loved Christian's reaction at seeing nothing written on the pad (when they came back to check). It showed that Christian really think Hutch is useless. Even Vivian could maybe jot stuff down. It only reinforces his opinion that Vivian is the brains of the house, and Hutch can only do numbers.
He mentioned that this would be easier with a computer, but obviously with dealing with Vivian and all leading to this point, his mind is not in it.
And then, the guy just witnessed his relationship swirling down the toilet, just like Christians cum swirling down Vivian's throat.
He is in a state of shell-shock and the last thing on his mind is writing out a stupid list.

I totally agree, maybe we're looking for something in this game that isn't there.
However, for now, most believe that this story is more than just a simple fuck story.

We will see in next part.
I concur, there are tons of simpleton stories here purely for the lewd scenes. We are all hoping there is more meat on the bone with this story.

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I'm about ready for part 2 now I think. I've speculated enough with what has been presented so far, and now need further story for further speculations :)
 
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