TonyMurray

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You are right. It does tie in though with her response to the gentle loving sex with boss. It seems she thinks boss might work the same way. Bad news for her. He simply does not.
That's not it at all. Vivian needed the gentle sex there, it had nothing to do with Christian, other than him being the one giving it. What gives the impression that she thought the gentle sex would be for Christian's benefit?
 
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Is right, a hoe is a hoe, never judge a women based on what she's says, as they are incapable of logic and reasoning always judge a woman based on what she dose, her action's will always speak louder than her words, women will always show you how they turely feel about you by the way the treat you in private and in public.
That is simply classic: women are incapable of logic and reasoning. Are you a Muslim?

Any adult woman, with any sense of self-respect and worth, that truly loves and respects their husband and their marriage would have told Christian to go and fuck himself and walked away with her partner head held high and with her dignity intact.
I think most people are capable of doing something they know they should not, and then regret it very much later, and even repeat it while still regretting it.

What Vivian has illustrated thus far, is that when a woman tells you that she loves you, that's a coded statement, what a woman means by that is that she's loves the lifestyle that you are providing for her with, you, well, she sort of kind of likes, depending on how she feels at any given moment at any given time. Vivian is a self-serving narcissist, she is using sex to hold onto a lifestyle that Hutch has managed to provide her with, with that lifestyle under threat, she is now monkey branching onto Christian the bigger better option, typical modern day women behaviour.
So, I wonder, do you think all women are self serving narcissists, since they all do that coded statement thing? No women really loves a man? This is simply not my experience. Is it yours?

Remember lads, when you are seeing a woman long term, or you are married, it's just you turn, until something better comes along and she will dump you quicker than you can blink you eyes and concoct every excuse that she can to blame you for the failure of your relationship, we are seeing that with Vivian's behaviour. She not protecting Hutch she is looking after her own long-term needs. To all the men on this thread, pay attention to character of Vivian, she is going to teach you so much about modern-day women
Why are you so bitter? Did your mother mistreat you?
 
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This is another one that you've got the wrong way round. It's Vivian who says sex (well, "being intimite") is Hutch's love language.

He was referring to your misinterpretation of the scene, as Vivian could not see Christian and whoever was in bed with him. So there's no "boss meant for wife to notice the hair and realize the implication," as it would be impossible for Vivian to notice the hair over a voice call.
It sounds like you are misinterpreting me. I was way past the idea of her being in that picture. You did tell me that the whole boss/officegirl thing had been thoroughly discussed. I also think that the way officegirl treated wife when she came to visit boss in the office is possibly significant of more than what we see.
 

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That is simply classic: women are incapable of logic and reasoning. Are you a Muslim?



I think most people are capable of doing something the know they should not, and then regret it very much later, and even repeat it while still regretting it.



So, I wonder, do you think all women are self serving narcissists, since they all do that coded statement thing? No women really loves a man? This is simply not my experience. Is it yours?



Why are you so bitter? Did your mother mistreat you?
my gorgeous pig slut hoe vivian who i love dearly definetly using logic and reason making sure that vagina keeps the money rolling in.. what you forgot is hutch gave her the choice .. he said do it or dont to vivian .. well she didnt wait for the smoke to clear she just jumped on the hoe train and is going to ride it all the way home. god i love that woman.. i dont think he meant all women just the pigs like that sexy ass vivian .. god i do love that hoe..
 

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That's not it at all. Vivian needed the gentle sex there, it had nothing to do with Christian, other than him being the one giving it. What gives the impression that she thought the gentle sex would be for Christian's benefit?
You misunderstand me. Not for his benefit at all. For hers. She needed an expression of love from him because that is part of the puzzle she is trying to solve. Is her response to him the same as she would get from other men or is it really about him for her. Does he really care for her or is she simply a handy hole? She has answered both questions since the escort episode.

Other men do not affect her the way boss does and he cares for her since he gave her gentle loving sex. She does not really have good evidence for those answers but for her it feels right she is satisfied, happy.
 

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You misunderstand me. Not for his benefit at all. For hers. She needed an expression of love from him because that is part of the puzzle she is trying to solve. Is her response to him the same as she would get from other men or is it really about him for her. Does he really care for her or is she simply a handy hole? She has answered both questions since the escort episode.

Other men do not affect her the way boss does and he cares for her since he gave her gentle loving sex. She does not really have good evidence for those answers but for her it feels right she is satisfied, happy.
I get the impression your method of interpretation is such you would go to to the movies watching "Jaws" and, coming out, claim it was about riding with dolphins.
 

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I get the impression your method of interpretation is such you would go to to the movies watching "Jaws" and, coming out, claim it was about riding with dolphins.
And the reverse would be true for you. Dolphins would be about sharks.

We are both entitled to our opinions, right? But I get a little disturbed when the diatribe against a woman gets black, syrupy and odorous. I have found them to be decent loving creatures that light up my life if not constantly disparaged. I try to do very little of that. And no, dear, that dress does not make your ass look big.
 
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he cares for her since he gave her gentle loving sex.
No. He gave her gentle sex because she asked for it. To Christian, it's all manipulation again. She is falling for him, she's vulnerable and he uses that against her to "win" her completely. I see no feelings from Christian in that scene.
 

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No. He gave her gentle sex because she asked for it. To Christian, it's all manipulation again. She is falling for him, she's vulnerable and he uses that against her to "win" her completely. I see no feelings from Christian in that scene.
Of course not. But she does, that is the point to be aware of at this place in the unfolding drama.

She does say to him as she goes out the door, that is what you have been doing with me today, right? Telling me what you think I need to hear so I can accept what I really want?

Masters degree at university, right? This chick is not a dummy. But there is much for her to learn.
 

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You misunderstand me.
I think you are either making up your position on a post-by-post basis, as your opinion seems to change every time someone refutes the previous one with some information taken from the actual game; or you are just appallingly bad at expressing your opinion, because it seems to me that everyone misunderstands much of what you're trying to say...
 

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I think you are either making up your position on a post-by-post basis, as your opinion seems to change every time someone refutes the previous one with some information taken from the actual game; or you are just appallingly bad at expressing your opinion, because it seems to me that everyone misunderstands much of what you're trying to say...
Yes, I am doing my best to confront vicious opinions. Vicious opinions are doing their best to resist my efforts.
And I am continuing to think about what is going on in the story.
Did you understand what I said in the post you are replying to?
 

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Yes, I am doing my best to confront vicious opinions.
That's exactly the problem. Your eyes are not on the game at all, you are not really interested in the fictional character Vivian. You are defending women nobody here knows about, or rather a fantasy of them against imaginary attacks, nobody here intends - at least not me. Be a bit more careful with the attribute "vicious".
 

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Yes, I am doing my best to confront vicious opinions. Vicious opinions are doing their best to resist my efforts.
And I am continuing to think about what is going on in the story.
Did you understand what I said in the post you are replying to?
Individual posts may be understandable when taken in isolation but not when taken in context with the previous posts. Your position seems to change every few posts so it's impossible to follow a thread. You'll argue one thing and then use the opposite in an argument a few posts later when someone points out that you've misread a line of dialogue or misconstrued a sequence of renders. Frankly, it's a bit exhausting, so I'm going to give you the same treatment as the last exhausting guy and just not bother responding to any of your posts, no matter how much I may want to point something out!
 

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That's exactly the problem. Your eyes are not on the game at all, you are not really interested in the fictional character Vivian. You are defending women nobody here knows about, or rather a fantasy of them against imaginary attacks, nobody here intends - at least not me. Be a bit more careful with the attribute "vicious".
How about this from earlier today

they are incapable of logic and reasoning
I say this is a patently untrue, cruel thing to say about women. They are also not incapable of love but only interested in the lifestyle a husband can create for them.

Simply not so. Not so. Not so.

But that is my experience. What is yours?
 

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How about this from earlier today



I say this is a patently untrue, cruel thing to say about women. They are also not incapable of love but only interested in the lifestyle a husband can create for them.

Simply not so. Not so. Not so.

But that is my experience. What is yours?
You know it's a battle you're not going to win ? Especially here, in a porn games forum, with a bunch of people who are just trying to induce the kind of reaction you have. It's trolling.
Could we return on the topic of this story, of these fictional characters ? For the sake of the discussion ?
 

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You know it's a battle you're not going to win ? Especially here, in a porn games forum, with a bunch of people who are just trying to induce the kind of reaction you have. It's trolling.
Could we return on the topic of this story, of these fictional characters ? For the sake of the discussion ?
I think that would be a great idea. No more of those pages long diatribes about how wife is a narcissistic whore, all women are this or that, on and on.

I vote for that. But if the diatribes should continue, then there should be a possibility of answering.
 

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I think that would be a great idea. No more of those pages long diatribes about how wife is a narcissistic whore, all women are this or that, on and on.

I vote for that. But if the diatribes should continue, then there should be a possibility of answering.
in general I'm in favor - but this is a forum for fappers, who mostly get their knowledge from porn, so the chances of success - none. ignoring is the only way, young paddan
 
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