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I disagree, I don't think she's in love with Hutch at all, maybe I did after CH1. But her actions in CH2 do not reflect the actions of somebody in love with her husband at all. She knows what she's doing is affecting Hutch, she 100% knows. But does she ever take any action to stop herself? not for more than a minute or so. Like, the dinner "Just dinner, nothing else will happen" proceeds to come onto Christian all by her self, and then fuck him in their driveway. Then she's left alone for 3-days. Does she try and reign in what she's doing? Put her husband, whom she loves so much first? No... Goes out attempting to have a one-night stand, because she just has to know if her feelings are just for Christian. Finds out, they are in fact only for him...proceeds to then cheat anyway again. Just to make sure or some shit lmao.

But hey! after this she realises in her mind, that she actually DOES need to put some effort into her husband if she wants to retain him, and to do that she needs to reign in her bullshit somewhat. :D Only to then be manipulated or however the fuck you wanna call it by Christian, to go into a Hotel Room (while her husband is waiting downstairs to go out with her) and allow herself to be SAed by some fucking random old cunt...:rolleyes:

Okay! but now that's over with, she can still go and put some effort into her love right?...

Oh wait, she shouts at him to get out, goes straight to Christian again, and proceeds to get him to make nice slow love to her...And to cap off this lovely evening, tells him straight up, "It's over, you won. I'm with you and I won't pretend I'm not anymore."

She's not in love with Hutch at all, she just wanted to feel like a loyal "decent" housewife for most of her life. She sees him as a safety net, something that she can just always run back too. That's all IMO.

I think she has now realised this as well, as of that ending. And that "you won" is her finally admitting it to herself, note the stupid ass "smiles" she does throughout that scene. She's a dumb fucking hoe who thinks she's in love, I pray that this doesn't turn out to be a VivianXChristian love story. And that we get to see something cool from my main "cuck" himself Hutch next Chapter. :D:D But I'm not holding my breath... NTR games don't really ever have the MCs do anything relevant or interesting in the story, a part from getting cucked that is. :cautious:

At the very least, let me see Christian drop Vivian like a bag of rocks at some point after he's had his fun. That would at least make a little happy...:)
I agree on a lot BUT I still think that she thinks she is in control and that is definitely not the case.
 

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I never said in front of parents and saying that she belongs to him in public is a total no go. Lets be clear about that. then yes you are right.
But it will be the same with the coworkers. Could you imagine you could work everyday with your colleagues making fun of you ? You have lost their respect, you just have to quit now. Because the people are cruel.
 

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I never said in front of parents and saying that she belongs to him in public is a total no go. Lets be clear about that. then yes you are right.
EXACTLY!!!


That's why that scene under the house is unbelievable - she wipes the floor with Hutch in public, and with herself, too. That's why this scene doesn't fit, it's too fast, it's the end of humiliation.
 

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I think she genuinely loved Hutch, and still does. She just has conflicting love interests now, and they are like chalk and cheese in terms of her feelings towards each of them.
Hopefully, chapter 3 will bring us some enlightment. Damn 5 months... :cry:
 

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But it will be the same with the coworkers. Could you imagine you could work everyday with your colleagues making fun of you ? You have lost their respect, you just have to quit now. Because the people are cruel.
when she says she belongs to Christian well... that will always be humiliating even for her. Having an open relationship. People will accept it most of the time.
 
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EXACTLY!!!


That's why that scene under the house is unbelievable - she wipes the floor with Hutch in public, and with herself, too. That's why this scene doesn't fit, it's too fast, it's the end of humiliation.
only 5 chapters it has to go fast and to be honest I'm not mad about it. Having to wait more then a year till something spicy really happens is not that fun either.
 
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SCstories is good with his renders and showing emotions, body language etc.
With that in my mind I would like to assume at-least part of the after dinner date is either fantasy from Vivian's mind or Imagination from Hutch's. Like the movie Belle de Jour
I have gone through the ch2 as much as I can to find same problem with the scene where her tattoos aren't present but none other part of the story has it. So maybe it's not a mistake but intentional render.
No tattoo in dinner scene
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So did SCstories ever told that this was a mistake?
If not what do you guys think?
iirc SC did say that he has used some old renders of his. So, this could be that case or this could be intentional like showing later events first and then exploring the past again. Or your theory might can be correct, but I doubt a dream can be this detailed and descriptive.
 
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when she says she belongs to Christian well... that will always be humiliating even for her. Having an open relationship. People will accept it most of the time.
A minority will accept it. Another minority will make your life a fucking living hell. The majority will smile at you when you're around, and will joke on you when you're not...
 

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I disagree on this. Opening the marriage to Christian, it's private. Only Hutch, Vivian and Christian are involved. If this "arrangement" goes public, it's totally different : he will have to face the judgement of his family, friends, colleagues, neighbours,... Public humiliation will be devastating.
Many people have an open marriage.... THat is for them to share. You would not know unless you enter the circle.
and you sorrows are still talking about the same thing ?


simple - she loves Hutch, such a permanent love, 22 years old, but she is in love with Christian who gives everything he does not have at home. The two are not mutually exclusive. And this is not about alpha beta sigma. It's simply life. She would like to have everything, but it's difficult. Someone has to let go. The question is why does Hutch let go from the beginning? - Either he's already tired of the relationship, he doesn't feel that fire anymore, or it's the guilt of the fact that because of his mistake she has muddled through the arrangement. Or additionally, Chris may be blackmailing him with something (which we don't see). Some incident at work (such as with Addison who very easily enters Hutch's immediate comfort zone or or showed how easily some footage can be leaked to the interent).

How much can we brandish about this ?
He says early on that he can give you what I can't . She says that all doesn't matter to her ... But I think it is more than material things. I think Hutch means sex, emotions , passion. She feels that with Christian.. Not Hutch so much ( Because "SHE" has shut him down from that ) She could of had it all.
 
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Many people have an open marriage.... THat is for them to share. You would not know unless you enter the circle.

He says early on that he can give you what I can't . She says that all doesn't matter to her ... But I think it is more than material things. I think Hutch means sex, emotions , passion. She feels that with Christian.. Not Hutch so much ( Because "SHE" has shut him down from that ) She could of had it all.
Yes I agree with you. Unless here we're talking about normal people, not the initiates of a sharing circle. The majority of the people won't understand that.
 

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its Robin Wright - actress from Princess Bride (the movie that Vi watches in her sleep)
according to me, the basic formula for the character Vi
You could be right about the actress. But what does the movie imply about the plot of the story here (sorry, I'm not good with fantasy stuff)?
 

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iirc SC did say that he has used some old renders of his. So, this could be that case or this could be intentional like showing later events first and then exploring the past again. Or your theory might can be correct, but I doubt a dream can be this detailed and descriptive.
There may be others, but it was specifically Ch3 where dev said you may notice the difference in render quality. He rendered some of the exciting scenes first as he was, well, excited to get to them. Of course, that doesn't mean they're all from Ch3, so this scene could be in the same category.
when she says she belongs to Christian well... that will always be humiliating even for her. Having an open relationship. People will accept it most of the time.
It's not that straightforward though. Have a conversation about having an open marriage, and yes, some people will accept it (while some others will absolutely not understand it). Have a conversation about deciding to open your marriage because your wife has been screwing your boss and it's the only way you can think to keep your marriage alive, even if you're not happy with it... that's a completely different scenario.
 
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You could be right about the actress. But what does the movie imply about the plot of the story here (sorry, I'm not good with fantasy stuff)?
It's the story of a girl in love with a man in search of fortune, who suddenly gone missing. Thinking he is dead, extremely sad and tired, she accepts to marry a man that she is not in love with.
There's maybe something here...
Edit : I precise the film is a comedy and not a tragedy. The bride will live very funny adventures.
 

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It's 100% clear, Vivian's expression when Sunshine says "I'm sure your husband misses you too" and then the lack of a correction when the penny drops with Sunshine saying "OOOHHH!"

I think the telling part is more the bit the next morning:
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 Vivian: “~ Sigh ~ ... 'come home to each other'..."
Vivian: “~ Softly ~ That's exactly what my husband made me promise him."
Vivian: “But that's not possible with Christian... not any more..."
Yeah idk what that guy is talking about with it being ambiguous. :ROFLMAO: Seems to me that it's one of the few things you can say in this, that is straight up "open and shut" :D


I think she genuinely loved Hutch, and still does. She just has conflicting love interests now, and they are like chalk and cheese in terms of her feelings towards each of them. Has Vivian been counting orgasms though, specifically? I don't think it's a case of her counting, but more that Christian counted their individual finishes and calls it six times that night, which is something that sticks in the head (he does bring it up a few times after as well).
Respectfully, hard disagree. Look at my previous post if you wouldn't mind...But I don't think she is in love with him at all...

She th

I'm not good at long texts but just look at her after he says goodnight princess. It is even zoomed in.
I'm still not sure what you mean. :unsure: Are you saying that you think she's actually manipulating him or what?...

Sorry I just don't understand....:ROFLMAO:
 
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I think Vivian is in a particular type of affair fog. She really thinks she can have it all. The dangerous and badboy lover and the caring husband. Look at how she reacts when Sunshine suggest Hutch to explore other women. In ch.1 she was still connected with reality when she thought Hutch didn't know. Honestly now, it resembles to many stories of "open marriage" initiated by the woman : she suggests it, pressures for it, the husband caves reluctantly, she gets chain fucked while the husband is suffering at home. Then she finds out that the men who were funcking her don't seek anything else from her. She then remembers she has a husband and realizes while she was getting fucked he has mourned the relationship. Now, he's the one going out late...

First redit result lmao :
 
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After my experience with BaD, I can safely say this back and forth will still be going on here when the next chapter comes out in Dec some time. I can be glad though that it will not be a year and a half until the next mhb comes out as it was with the last version of BaD. But it would be interesting to see you guys keep it up that long.
 

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We should drop the term "open marriage" once and for all. The situation here is asymmetrical - he isn't allowed to do anything, he doesn't want it himself and she denies him that explicitely in the conversation with Sunshine. It's a euphemism, it veils the reality here.
 
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