Good gif it’s the 3rd time I play this game it’s that good IMO. Just wanted to ask the dev if we can see the wife’s pov while the husband is behind the door or on the couch while she’s getting railed. Pls dev just that one option fukin one of the best games and story I have played hands down.
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im not opposing your view lets make that clear. yes i totaly am in support of a redemption storyline... as i said before. as the saying goes the road not taken is full of thorns. and there will be repercussion if hutch and vivian are to salvage their marriage.
we are in the first update and we are already getting so many theories... imagine if this vn had choices.... we would go nuts. the more i try to get the story the more complex it becomes. the vn not having choice was to keep the reader sane(that's what i think)
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I mean, this story is probably going to bad-end.
but we have a lesser evil and a greater evil
everyone agrees that the recording from the bedroom will be released
Hattyrulz
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who said that.... thought it was just speculation ..... did SC Stories confirm it.everyone agrees that the recording from the bedroom will be released
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For me she fucks a whole Lotta people or times in a short time. I personally couldn't go back to that person. Cause for me I will always have at the forefront of my head. Are they thinking about them when we fuck. How many people did she fuck. Is she enjoying it. What makes it even worse he has witnessed her enjoying it. So that scar is permanent. Shit he would be looking at constant anxiety and chance of permanent ED. Man I got to stop looking at this thread
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I think in the final chapter he may give us a choice between
bad ending
( Vivian gets exposed for being a escort, loses her job at school and hubby gets fired trying to steal insider information or info he could take to another competitor and son disowns his mother when he finds out she is whoring and hutch jumps out a window
good ending hutch gets insider information while Vivian is keeping Christian distracted and finds out the illegal deals Christians been doing and maybe some money laundering or prostitution and drugs to close some deals, Hutch gets Addison on his side so she can testify against him in court too, Christian goes to pound me in the ass prison while Vivian gets promoted to Christian’s old job and she makes hutch assistant manager and Addison her administrative secretary or something like that
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fingers crossed the dev gives a choice at the end..... nice ending choice.by the 3rd update we can mostly figure out how it might end as the dev said 4th update is climax.... 5th epilogue.
At the office after the bathroom the wife says that Hutch will turn their son against her when he finds out she has cheated, that she will never meet her grandchildren, so I don't believe we will find out that Hutch is not the father.
Her panic here makes me believe that they had a loving family home before all of this, where her betrayal will destroy everything. She has said herself that she was not the type to betray her husband before this. Maybe Hutch is a decent father and the son actually loves and respects him, so finding out his mother betrayed his father like this she knows he will take Hutch's side.
I know we are trying to understand the gravitational forces that caused her panties to drop 15 minutes after going outside with the boss, but it has to be all about the job. We all know that is stupid and no woman in their right mind would have done this if she had any respect for her husband. But we have seen the manipulation tactics of the boss, he has done this so many times to other families (by his admission) that it is second nature now.
Remember this is a porn game, without that scene there is no story. The dev could have taken the slow route of the wife going out to dinner with the boss constantly until he slowly wears her down but then we would have all complained about the "slow burn" to get decent content.
We would also not have now 148 pages of comments and speculations as to why this all started, we will have 1000 pages by the next release, more if the dev gives us a spoiler that gives us some answers (hint hint).
Her panic here makes me believe that they had a loving family home before all of this, where her betrayal will destroy everything. She has said herself that she was not the type to betray her husband before this. Maybe Hutch is a decent father and the son actually loves and respects him, so finding out his mother betrayed his father like this she knows he will take Hutch's side.
I know we are trying to understand the gravitational forces that caused her panties to drop 15 minutes after going outside with the boss, but it has to be all about the job. We all know that is stupid and no woman in their right mind would have done this if she had any respect for her husband. But we have seen the manipulation tactics of the boss, he has done this so many times to other families (by his admission) that it is second nature now.
Remember this is a porn game, without that scene there is no story. The dev could have taken the slow route of the wife going out to dinner with the boss constantly until he slowly wears her down but then we would have all complained about the "slow burn" to get decent content.
We would also not have now 148 pages of comments and speculations as to why this all started, we will have 1000 pages by the next release, more if the dev gives us a spoiler that gives us some answers (hint hint)
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i will say the dev pulled off what most NTR Vn's can never do. he was able to mix blackmail, corruption, NTR , even cuckolding and humiliation all into one VN. usually NTR VN's can only achieve maybe 2 of these . dev showed there is a way to put it all in one so you can feel all the elements . pleasure , regret, cheating, blackmail, love, passion all into one
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But he does know now, and she knows he knows. She also knows she is not carrying for the both of them, if anything Hutch is doing the heavy lifting with the burden. And yet knowing this, other than feeling guilty, she does nothing... absolutely nothing to ease or even lighten the burden. Instead of all times to "listen and obey" Hutch, it's when he offers her free reign to fuck Christian.
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Loyalty? Honesty?
She lied about leaving early in the morning and visited Christian: Honesty -= 1
First disrespectful contact was the kiss on the lips: Loyalty -= 1
Wanting another kiss and savoring the moment: Loyalty -= 1
Accepting the dress, and lying about it origin multiple times: Honesty -= 5, Loyalty -= 1
Demanding to go to the dinner, even when Hutch told her not to: Honesty -= 1, Loyalty -= 1
Refusing to change to something more fitting: Loyalty -= 1
Not calling out Christian when he kissed her at his home: Loyalty -= 1
Not telling Hutch about her impending plan: Honesty -= 10
Fucking In the backyard: Loyalty -= 100
Lying to Hutch when asked about it repeatedly: Honesty -= 20
Fucking Christian all night: Loyalty -= 1000
Lying to Hutch when asked about it repeatedly: Honesty -= 200
Lying about the phone call late at night: Honesty -= 1
Sending a pic to Christian: Loyalty -= 1
Lying to Hutch when asked everything in following days: Honesty -= 50, Loyalty -= 50
Rolling up to his work, knowing it was a wrong move: Loyalty -= 5
Fucking Christian in the bathroom, and enjoying it: Loyalty -= 2000
Lying to Hutch on the phone while fucking him: Honesty -= 50
More private meetings and communication with Christian: Loyalty -= 10, Honesty -= 5
Not coming clean admitting everything to Hutch when she knows he know: Loyalty -= 100, Honesty -= 500
Agreeing to the "open relationship" as the only suggestion she accepts, even if the has the choice not to !!!: Loyalty -= 1000
I probably missed a few, but i think we all get the gist.
Final tally:
Loyalty = -4272
Honesty = -843
Seriously no matter how you look at it, regardless if you think she is misguided or manipulated or manipulative, or plain naive. Her actions are disgusting and unbecoming of any spouse in a long loving marriage. She is for the streets.
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The scene where she tries to seduce Hutch and let him know he is her man, and she is his woman... Please!
We can see her gradual decline. She was an unwilling partner in the backyard, and even up to the point in the kitchen. By that last fuck in the bedroom, we can see her attitude changing as she was getting into it. Finally in the bathroom scene, her false pretense finally came down, and we all witness how into and willing she was to be Christian's fuck toy and cum dump.
v: "Anything you want"
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very well said and honestly the only point i have tried to make is the boss could have easily said meet me at a hotel room. hutch would have never known the better. wifey would have done it too. nobody would have ever known. for the wife to do all this in hutch's presence shows she went along with the boss's plan to humiliate and cuck hutch which makes her even more guilty because she is the strong partner , she is the brains, she is the wife, even though she knows she enjoys it over and over again . her tears arent for hutch , they are for herself because she knows the boss made her fall in love with the D and her life will never be the same again.. from housewife to hoe hoe hoe hoe
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Reflecting on Vivian's actions, it reminds me of a quote form the movie My big fat Greek wedding...
"The man might be the head of the family, but the woman is the neck!". Think about it!
"The man might be the head of the family, but the woman is the neck!". Think about it!
I can't find anything here that I disagree with other than I think she was at least partially willing during the first fuck in the bedroom and during the fucking she got in the kitchen. Based on the moans and screams, she REALLY loved that first fucking in the bedroom, and after her initial reluctance, enjoyed the fucking in the kitchen. As I wrote before, I find Vivian to be unlikable (I find all 3 unlikable for different reasons already mentioned). I do think she does not want to loose Hutch, and that is the source of her fear and discomfort. Duke is correct in that Christian could have been discreet about fucking Vivian, and given her behavior so far, Vivian would probably have gone along with it. He could have arranged for a secret meeting somewhere, and probably could have fucked her regularly behind Hutch's back. Christian handled it the way that he did because he wanted to humiliate Hutch and Vivian. The desire to humiliate others is coming from Christian. He is a sadistic, manipulative, psychopath. Christian is using Vivian to humiliate Hutch, and all three of them know this. Christian getting Vivian to participate in the humiliation is one way he is humiliating Vivian. Vivian is guilty of humiliating Hutch, but I don't think she is enjoying it. Her not enjoying it does not get her off the hook. It is simply ONE less way that she is betraying Hutch. None of them get off the hook with me. I could write paragraphs about how messed up each one of them was. That is why I am fine if they all suffer in the end. There is an ending I would like to see with Christian. Imagine if one of the wives whose marriage he destroyed showed up with a gun and took him out. It would be great if she gave him a speech about how she had a great husband who treated her well, loved her, and loved their kids, but she lost it all because she started fucking Christian and was too stupid to see what it was going to cost her. She then tells him that her husband left her, and their kids hate her because of her betraying their father. She then takes out Christian saying he is going to pay for everything she lost.
Well i have to add to this expierence of you that i have seen marriage after 20 years having a crisis beacuse when they startet young the have other expectation and as the time passed they would become like kind of routine and sex was seldom ans as a result a young coworker at work brought some life and some energy and it happened that the maariage woman was feeling younger again and she crossed the line even not loving the coworker was just a sex affair and a the end she went back to her husband but with many conditions . And she had to go through a very hard time until she could have the trust from her husband again. Today they are still topgether but he when we are playing poker tells me that he cant forget what happened .I think thats hardnow who is blurring the lines between real life and vn
i think more along the line of using real life logic but with a huge helping of adult game logic. in weaving the real life and vn logic into one streamlined story is what's creating the various debates that have taken place in this thread.
thats a mild way to phrase it... but if it did happen in real life then she was not the right partner. thats how i think... as someone in the thread posted ... vivian and hutch's marriage seems superficial for a couple who has been married for 22 years... and my longest relationship was 10 years which was with my wife... so i may not know how longer relationships change but in those 10 years, we never had any crisis we couldn't face after having a simple conversation. so such logic breaking reasoning when mixed in with the real life reasons sparks a reaction in me.
Others people have said it but have you considered Christian did all this bc of Addison ? I was thinking about the thing it's not sure Christian is Addison's uncle. Let's say he's his lover or her father. Christian lost the two accounts to fire Hutch. Then he meets Vivian who clearly fancies him (calling him substantial and shit...). He fucks her to humiliate Hutch and enjoyed it.
It would be very funny that it all started not bc of Hutch's insecurity but Christian's...
All that to maybe bring Addison and Hutch closer...
Him looking at Hutch this way is the first time, he doesn't seem to be his cocky self.
Imagine now Vivian cheating her husvband to keep his job, became Christian's subsmissive slut and progressively despising her husband, learning Hutch has never done anything to lose his job, and that she has been all along a tool for Chrsitian's revenge. Then she loses everything.
It would be very funny that it all started not bc of Hutch's insecurity but Christian's...
All that to maybe bring Addison and Hutch closer...
Him looking at Hutch this way is the first time, he doesn't seem to be his cocky self.
Imagine now Vivian cheating her husvband to keep his job, became Christian's subsmissive slut and progressively despising her husband, learning Hutch has never done anything to lose his job, and that she has been all along a tool for Chrsitian's revenge. Then she loses everything.
The dev has stated that some of the speculation has been spot on, I believe this is the one, the boss is responsible for the loss of those two contracts and just wanted Hutch to be the scapegoat, what will happen when the wife finds out about this? With the cocky (pun 1) attitude from the boss he will slip up at some point and mention it.
Will the wife be too deep (pun 2) at that point and not give a shit (possible pun 3)? She has defended Hutch every time the boss has tried to put Hutch down - which is another reason I believe there is still some disturbed form of love there.
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A good twist for me would be if it turns out that hutch had an ONS accident with Addison first and that's why he's so insecure and depressed because he can't handle it. without her knowing, Christian found out and maybe saw it. After that, he wants to make Hutch's life a living hell. The addition of Vivian wasn't part of the plan until he found out she was attractive and willing, which played into his hands even more. In the end, everyone would be responsible and guilty.
