He is just feeding her excuses and influencing, I think blackmailing would a wrong word when it's applied to her. Christian even tells her this that it's only in her head. Though he is directly pressuring Hutch into submission.
I meant it when I said WOW before... this is the energizer bunny of threads. I am not a professional writer. I don't even consider myself an amateur writer. As stated before I wanted to write a story for myself and so I sat down with a known story arc and basic character motivations and started writing. I simply tried to put myself in the shoes of each character and write from their mindset when they spoke or acted. What I crapped out turned out better than I hoped. I wish I could say I meticulously planned out every detail discussed here, but the fact is the nuanced events and dialogs that are talked about here mostly happened organically. Just evolving into what it is over time as I wrote, added, rewrote and evolved the script into what it is today. I never set out specifically to add X here so that Y happens there. It wasn't until seeing you guys starting to analyze it that I started to appreciate my own creation. Maybe that comes off as conceited and I'm sure some would argue I write worse than a retarded monkey, but what I mean to say is - thank you. Thank you for making me feel good about my story. Thank you for making me feel good about my dark and depressing story that is going to get much worse.
Chapter vs Release vs Version
For now I will try to stick to calling these by version number (0.2,0.4,etc). I haven't decided if I will publish as a stand alone game, in which case I'll call them chapters, or as a complete (to date) game. The only thing stopping me from releasing a stand alone update is that every broken up game I've ever seen here is a confusing mess of naming conventions, groupings hidden under spoiler tags, and other nonsensical formatting. I would like to think calling them Chaper 1, Chapter 2, along with an in game title page stating 'hey this is chapter 2, go download chapter 1 if you haven't' would work... but I'm not so sure. I'm all about eye candy and I really... really... don't want to compress my game. v0.2 has over 600MB just in animations. That could be 2GB by then end of the game, plus 20k renders, and trying to compress than into 10GB or maybe even 5gb file? Anyway, still thinking about the best solution.
Version 0.4
It's on track for a mid to late May release as originally planned. I've got 2k renders done with probably about another 1k to go, not including the sexy scenes which still need animating. Compared to v0.2, it looks like total play time will be less than the first one. v0.2 had 6 games days but only 5 with significant content and 5k of images. v0.4 is 6 and 4 with 3k(probably) images. I could include more game days to match the size of v0.2 but this will end at a natural break point. As mentioned this is a Vivian heavy update with the next one(v0.6) picking up with a lot more Hutch content right from the start. v0.4 will answer some questions and develop the story, but v0.6 is where the pain begins.
Porn Logic
I had a really long rant about this but I scratched it and I'll simply say this: It's a story. All stories are unrealistic to a degree but that's what makes it entertaining. I feel my 'leaps of faith' are easier to swallow than most Hollywood movies. 'Pitch meeting' and 'The Critical Thinker' on YT show just how shitty Hollywood is. But they entertain nonetheless.
Just to speak to this for a moment - YES. That is the short answer to your questions. It's up to you to see WHAT he does then decide for yourself WHY he did it. This thread is a couple hundred pages of people answering that. But to expand on this just a little, despite her screen time, I do not consider Vivian to be the main character. Hutch does not get an inner monologue on purpose. I think v0.6 is a much more interesting part of the story and I think is what most of you really want. We'll get there in time. The good news is that about of quarter of that is already done and being Hutch focused, it's easier to render. The bad news is, after this update, I will need to slow down a little. I'm rushing to get this one done to sort of 'cement' the story, and, as a non initial release, get more attention from people holding off. I almost never download initial releases as they typically have little content and often quickly abandoned. I suspect there are plenty others like me.
Again, thank you to everyone.
No sneak peaks but I'll include just some old eye candy renders I've done in the past.
This one I'm particularly proud of. I know most of you don't use Daz but I made this without any post work. It was one render from Daz using mirrors. It was inspired but the music video Late Night Feelins by Mark Ronson.
I just discovered this kinetic novel... where to begin?
It's a marvel of production and writing. Congratulations to the artist. What talent!
I was looking for the Patreon to support it but couldn't find it, so I came here.
I admit I'm a cerebral NTR fan and I'm thrilled for the first time.
Strength and courage for the sequel, which I eagerly await. I know this work is difficult and authors often give up. So I give you all my support and strength!
Well done, man.
Me too. I watched it several times after its release date because I couldn't believe how well written the story was beyond the porn logic, how strongly drawn the characters were It blew me away. Afterward, I had a big catalog of questions in my head. Talent like this is very rare.
I just discovered this kinetic novel... where to begin?
It's a marvel of production and writing. Congratulations to the artist. What talent!
I was looking for the Patreon to support it but couldn't find it, so I came here.
I admit I'm a cerebral NTR fan and I'm thrilled for the first time.
Strength and courage for the sequel, which I eagerly await. I know this work is difficult and authors often give up. So I give you all my support and strength!
Well done, man.
SC Stories is a true artist of kinetic fiction.
He doesn't have a patreon because on the one hand he is (as we assume) well off and doesn't want the financial aspect to affect his novel in any way. There may be other reasons - but let's leave that to individual judgment.
All we can do is enjoy this story - and the only thing we can do is spread the word to other f95 users
0.2 will remain unchanged - apart from technical details (I assume that SC wants to possibly correct a few errors that have occurred - visual and language). There will be 4 more updates: 04, 06, 08, 1.0 - work on them will take a few months each time (4+). The story is already told and only needs polishing and visualization...
at this moment the author is wondering whether to make each update a separate file or maybe build one main one (but it can reach slightly 10GB+)
I think if it's get darker only for Hutch than it'll be like any other NTR/NTS, Cuck/Hotwife game but only difference would be he will become a unwilling cuck while Vivian will be liberated by Christian in such a way that she will go for dick by dick and won't return home every now and then.
This reminded me about another hotwife story (I got these books from a member of 8muse forum saying they are good corruption story but none of them were. I only enjoyed only 2 of them which were erotic horror/supernatural hotwife stories).
A couple moves to the wife's hometown to start a restaurant with her divorced, promiscuous friend. The wife reconnects with her high school crush, now a biker gang leader, and flirts with him. When confronted, she turns it into a cuckold fantasy to rile up her husband. Later, he spies on her and discovers she’s sleeping with the biker. Despite indirect objections, she continues, eventually engaging in a foursome at the restaurant.
After a confrontation, she stays with her friend, but the biker dominates her into submission and manipulates her husband into handling gang finances, effectively blackmailing him. While the wife makes him more cuck through handjobs. Few days/weeks later he is called into the biker's club. When the couple enters the biker's club she says to her hubby that when she is around the gang leader specially in club or setting's like thisshe is his women. And fucks with him infront everybody, a young biker women comforts hubby and fucks with him. She goes with the biker leader to a biker convention while he stays home and gets video and it's revealed the biker's nephew want to take over the gang and shared those video and plot revenge with him. While the wife is in dilemma cause the biker leader don't want to share her anymore, she don't want leave her 20 year marriage and live with an illegal biker and she is in love with the leader but also love/like hubby. They return, the leader got arrested because of the revenge plot. But the wife is liberated so can't go without biker dick. So in the end hubby is happy that she didn't leave him (though it's hinted they don't have sex cause the wife gets her fix from biker gangbangs). THE END
SC Stories is a true artist of kinetic fiction.
He doesn't have a patreon because on the one hand he is (as we assume) well off and doesn't want the financial aspect to affect his novel in any way. There may be other reasons - but let's leave that to individual judgment.
All we can do is enjoy this story - and the only thing we can do is spread the word to other f95 users
I am a hobbyist that enjoys creating worlds using 3D graphics. The stories I create are stories that interest me and I share them to give back to the community in hopes like minded others will enjoy them as well.
Is this his first avn? If so I could see why he doesn't have a patreon he likely sees it as a passion project and doesn't want to make a profit of it but that could change in the future, obviously with out the Dev confirming it we will never know haha
SC Stories is a true artist of kinetic fiction.
He doesn't have a patreon because on the one hand he is (as we assume) well off and doesn't want the financial aspect to affect his novel in any way. There may be other reasons - but let's leave that to individual judgment.
All we can do is enjoy this story - and the only thing we can do is spread the word to other f95 users
Not only that. The story also has a high recognition value and a special effect that sticks in the memory. The psychological mechanisms used are almost comparable to good short films/mini-series. It is also perfectly balanced. It picks up the pace in exactly the right places to create tension and then takes it back down again so that the viewer can relax a little. I can tell you right now that it will set a whole new standard for adult VN on many levels.
It is also perfectly balanced. It picks up the pace in exactly the right places to create tension and then takes it back down again so that the viewer can relax a little
I am a hobbyist that enjoys creating worlds using 3D graphics. The stories I create are stories that interest me and I share them to give back to the community in hopes like minded others will enjoy them as well.
Is this his first avn? If so I could see why he doesn't have a patreon he likely sees it as a passion project and doesn't want to make a profit of it but that could change in the future, obviously with out the Dev confirming it we will never know haha
First release, yes. He has another project that he suggested he might never release, or alternatively, he might tidy up and potentially let out into the world at some point (I think he said that second bit at some point, anyway)...
I am a hobbyist that enjoys creating worlds using 3D graphics. The stories I create are stories that interest me and I share them to give back to the community in hopes like minded others will enjoy them as well.
Is this his first avn? If so I could see why he doesn't have a patreon he likely sees it as a passion project and doesn't want to make a profit of it but that could change in the future, obviously with out the Dev confirming it we will never know haha
SC Stories did make another game before this... he wasn't able to write an ending that suited him for that project. most of the red head renders and SC Stories profile image are from that project(i assume...not sure). there are some images that have been posted here from that kn/vn. think rob posted it... not sure about the exact id.
I think if it's get darker only for Hutch than it'll be like any other NTR/NTS, Cuck/Hotwife game but only difference would be he will become a unwilling cuck while Vivian will be liberated by Christian in such a way that she will go for dick by dick and won't return home every now and then.
While the wife is in dilemma cause the biker leader don't want to share her anymore, she don't want leave her 20 year marriage and live with an illegal biker and she is in love with the leader but also love/like hubby. They return, the leader got arrested because of the revenge plot. But the wife is liberated so can't go without biker dick. So in the end hubby is happy that she didn't leave him (though it's hinted they don't have sex cause the wife gets her fix from biker gangbangs). THE END
God I hope this also is not the case. Although "dark", it doesn't fit the current narrative. We shall see!
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It's interesting to hear peoples different takes on long term marriage and relationships. Not sure how many of us here are in one (*puts hand up). From my experience, shit cheating shit is a non-issue, never gonna happen.
I'm also intrigued by how much back story people are adding to Hutch and Vivian's relationship, a lot of assumptions and speculations. Some agree with how i picture them, many do not.
Maybe SC Stories will one day give us the official canon story on how they met, and how their relationship was like leading up to this event.
We can't say anything about a "backstory", I agree. But I see it like a stress test - if you fail that spectacularly (plus the occasional hints we get how they view each other, communicate with each other etc), you are forced to draw conclusions ragarding the condition they were in up to this point. Especially if you are not inclined to see the boss as some kind of irresistible force of nature. This can't be about two individuals failing each on their own seperately here (she as a hoe, he as a cuck, both hidden upt to now), but it's about their mutual bond which is failing here, they are failing in their relation to each other, that is what is happening. And that's not necessarily about certain events like how they met etc.
I also wonder renewedly about Hutch's impotence. I could be wrong but I wouldn't have expected it as a necessary, obligatory topic in this case - he seems physically fit, in his late 40ies, maybe around 50. And taking viagra hints to the fact that it isn't just a superficial problem. So why does the dev seem to put emphasis on it. Is it just to give a motivation (and legitimacy?) for Vivians hunger for sex? To stress that Hutch is a loser, to stress the contrast to the boss? And maybe it's not just a physical problem, maybe Hutch wasn't so keen on Vivian anymore (I know, I apologize for saying that in this thread )?
I think when betrayal happens the betrayed party is already in a dark painful place. I want to see how dev takes Vivian & Christian in a dark painful place too.
Most NTR/NTS don't become dark for the FMC and bull. Even when FMC becomes a stripper/whore or ends up in sub/dom relation with the bull it doesn't show that she is unhappy, in pain (I guess it's meant to show that her corruption is complete). Only exception is Building our Futature and My Girfriend is a Blue Collar Worker (here everyone suffers someway or other). Can't remember many if anyone can share more games where FMC & Bulls also suffers please share.
I would like to think Christian will frighten/pressure Hutch so much that fear itself will run out of his body. And he will become something else entirely. I know it's a wishful thinking but one can hope.
We can't say anything about a "backstory", I agree. But I see it like a stress test - if you fail that spectacularly (plus the occasional hints we get how they view each other, communicate with each other etc), you are forced to draw conclusions ragarding the condition they were in up to this point. Especially if you are not inclined to see the boss as some kind of irresistible force of nature. This can't be about two individuals failing each on their own seperately here (she as a hoe, he as a cuck, both hidden upt to now), but it's about their mutual bond which is failing here, they are failing in their relation to each other, that is what is happening. And that's not necessarily about certain events like how they met etc.
I also wonder renewedly about Hutch's impotence. I could be wrong but I wouldn't have expected it as a necessary, obligatory topic in this case - he seems physically fit, in his late 40ies, maybe around 50. And taking viagra hints to the fact that it isn't just a superficial problem. So why does the dev seem to put emphasis on it. Is it just to give a motivation (and legitimacy?) for Vivians hunger for sex? To stress that Hutch is a loser, to stress the contrast to the boss? And maybe it's not just a physical problem, maybe Hutch wasn't so keen on Vivian anymore (I know, I apologize for saying that in this thread )?
Talking on backstory now I'm not going to provide a theory but more something I noticed with avns of the nature where the wife has a "repressed sexual appetite" so to speak , but does anyone else find with these that it almost feels like that the wife has had little to no sexual experiences prior to marrying the husband without it directly being mentioned? And then these "feelings" just happen to be awakened by one brief not overly sexual encounter so to speak , or on the other side sometimes I look at the other way that the wife has always had this sexual appetite and desires then it makes me wonder then why did you marry the husband in the first place it's not like you where saving sex till marriage you would of likely got plenty of test drives before the big day so you know exactly what your getting , now I know these lean more to the reality side of things and doesn't really fit the porn logic side of it , but it was always a thought that popped into my head when I seen it
Also just to clarify this is not me saying you can't do it this way it doesn't make sense this doesn't happen etc , more just wondering if anyone else thought something similar and I know it's a game and it's designed that way but I just can't help myself haha
If your talking about the one I think your talking about where it's sold as something else but is essentially a super cuck simulator then that one goes hard on the cuck aspect
We can't say anything about a "backstory", I agree. But I see it like a stress test - if you fail that spectacularly (plus the occasional hints we get how they view each other, communicate with each other etc), you are forced to draw conclusions ragarding the condition they were in up to this point. Especially if you are not inclined to see the boss as some kind of irresistible force of nature. This can't be about two individuals failing each on their own seperately here (she as a hoe, he as a cuck, both hidden upt to now), but it's about their mutual bond which is failing here, they are failing in their relation to each other, that is what is happening. And that's not necessarily about certain events like how they met etc.
I also wonder renewedly about Hutch's impotence. I could be wrong but I wouldn't have expected it as a necessary, obligatory topic in this case - he seems physically fit, in his late 40ies, maybe around 50. And taking viagra hints to the fact that it isn't just a superficial problem. So why does the dev seem to put emphasis on it. Is it just to give a motivation (and legitimacy?) for Vivians hunger for sex? To stress that Hutch is a loser, to stress the contrast to the boss? And maybe it's not just a physical problem, maybe Hutch wasn't so keen on Vivian anymore (I know, I apologize for saying that in this thread )?
Talking on backstory now I'm not going to provide a theory but more something I noticed with avns of the nature where the wife has a "repressed sexual appetite" so to speak , but does anyone else find with these that it almost feels like that the wife has had little to no sexual experiences prior to marrying the husband without it directly being mentioned? And then these "feelings" just happen to be awakened by one brief not overly sexual encounter so to speak , or on the other side sometimes I look at the other way that the wife has always had this sexual appetite and desires then it makes me wonder then why did you marry the husband in the first place it's not like you where saving sex till marriage you would of likely got plenty of test drives before the big day so you know exactly what your getting , now I know these lean more to the reality side of things and doesn't really fit the porn logic side of it , but it was always a thought that popped into my head when I seen it
Also just to clarify this is not me saying you can't do it this way it doesn't make sense this doesn't happen etc , more just wondering if anyone else thought something similar and I know it's a game and it's designed that way but I just can't help myself haha
Dealbreaker is this a detailed expansion to my previous post about something fundamentally wrong with the marriage??
if not then nice interpretation. y are you apologizing at the end. if you are saying that cause of retaliation for team hoe... dont think any one is on that team...
Chaoticjustice it's one of the reason most if not some of us are curious about the mindset of vivian and maybe her past which may or maynot be shown in update 2(0.4). the views that you have posted have been debated and since we have only speculation to go on it lost traction.
i did at one point try to understand the topics you wrote about but there were too many leap of faith moments in the reasonings to come to understand feeling of the characters, and the more times i read the kn the more i felt we need more info for making probable theories. as every conversation felt connected to some other event or some logic borrowed from another instance. like a series of mini episodes leading to a big episode to explain all the previous episodes.