4.80 star(s) 130 Votes

Chaoticjustice

Active Member
May 26, 2024
559
432
Ahahaha...we can just hope for Huutch that Sawyer is gonna end his poor life, once Sawyer finds out his own father made his mom a hoe...
Good to see you still give your bullshit answers and don't actually address any points in what you quote , I genuinely don't know why I even respond to you half the time I've had more interesting conversations with brick walls :rolleyes:

And before you even reply I won't reply cause your not even worth my time at this stage I'd rather shit in my hands and clap than listen to you talk absolute shit

But I'll leave you with this come tomorrow morning I will have a big bowl of your tears as an hardcore NTR fan as my breakfast and Il absolutely love it just remember your tears fuel my day ;)
 
Last edited:
  • Like
  • Thinking Face
Reactions: JoeBlogs and Luc77

packard1928

Forum Fanatic
Nov 16, 2018
4,278
4,230
after 20 years even sex with Vivian will get boring
See this is what I believe.... It is the same for many couples.... sex becomes a regular ritual... never changing. It becomes boring. That said I think it all stared with Vivian. She mention she would put on the sexy nightgown he likes.. He was a tiger last time. I still think she is as much a problem to Hutch libido issue ... maybe even a cause for it. I do not understand why he seems so bored while sitting in the mens club ??? It was mentioned that Vivian might be one of the dancers ?
 

TheDuke9999

Active Member
Jan 3, 2022
821
913
See this is what I believe.... It is the same for many couples.... sex becomes a regular ritual... never changing. It becomes boring. That said I think it all stared with Vivian. She mention she would put on the sexy nightgown he likes.. He was a tiger last time. I still think she is as much a problem to Hutch libido issue ... maybe even a cause for it. I do not understand why he seems so bored while sitting in the mens club ??? It was mentioned that Vivian might be one of the dancers ?
nah vivian too busy making bank in the bathroom turning tricks to be a dancer .. a hoe gotta eat bro.
 

Gattsu#Struggler

Active Member
May 8, 2017
754
1,373
Good to see you still give your bullshit answers and don't actually address any points in what you quote , I genuinely don't know why I even respond to you half the time I've had more interesting conversations with brick walls :rolleyes:

And before you even reply I won't reply cause your not even worth my time at this stage I'd rather shit in my hands and clap than listen to you talk absolute shit

But I leave you with this come tomorrow morning I will have a big bowl of your tears as an hardcore NTR fan as my breakfast and Il absolutely love it just remember your tears fuel my day ;)
Hehe, DEV already mentioned that this is not a game for you,..but nice to c that you won't give on Huutch although he is a natural failure. Keep believin' lol!
Besides I never took u seriously for once...only havin my fun with u.
 

Luc77

Member
Jul 15, 2022
340
451
It was mentioned that Vivian might be one of the dancers ?
I have a friend - actually, she was my good friend's fiancée (recently). She's a pole dancer (sport - recreational) and she even has her own school - well, you don't become a real dancer overnight (and the supposed girl there does do some acrobatics)
 
  • Like
Reactions: tagour

Luc77

Member
Jul 15, 2022
340
451
You know what I'm missing in this thread/discussion?

Womane/Girls' opinions, from the reviews you can see that a few have read MHB, but they don't participate in the forum
 

Dealbreaker

Member
May 12, 2024
347
412
Same. Honest question (you touched on it weeks ago): do you trust yourself in getting the right feeling who is who. In some cases I feel like I'm talking to a girl, but then I'm told I'm not. I really have learned to doubt myself in this respect. But then it couldn't be my fault.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Luc77

Sparta158

Member
May 22, 2024
220
256
What's wrong with some people? You are welcome to have your personal disagreements and insult each other. But hell, settle it via PM and don't pollute the forum with your personal sensitivities.

Excerpt from Dev's post.
I find this a strange place to be a troll when that energy could be used constructively in a game thread the person actually enjoys.
If you're just looking to have a thoughtful discussion then welcome. I recommend reading most of this thread as there are some deep conversation exploring emotions and thought processes of the main characters based on personal experiences from the poster. There are also plenty of entertaining theories about the future.
 
Last edited:

Hattyrulz

Member
Jan 25, 2018
374
328
after 20 years even sex with Vivian will get boring
with a character like vivian... that we have seen so far... doubt there are any marriages that last that long.
See this is what I believe.... It is the same for many couples.... sex becomes a regular ritual... never changing. It becomes boring. That said I think it all stared with Vivian. She mention she would put on the sexy nightgown he likes.. He was a tiger last time. I still think she is as much a problem to Hutch libido issue ... maybe even a cause for it. I do not understand why he seems so bored while sitting in the mens club ??? It was mentioned that Vivian might be one of the dancers ?
i feel that you are generalizing it a bit but few here can say they have been married for 20+ years.... any below or close to 20 doesnt count. and based on the reasoning you and luc have given about cheating happens instantenouly like luc said or it can happen over a long period of dormant sex like... either scenarious its still betrayl premditated or not. and i agree about vivian might be the cause but we cannot say for sure until the next update.
You know what I'm missing in this thread/discussion?

Womane/Girls' opinions, from the reviews you can see that a few have read MHB, but they don't participate in the forum
how do you know whether is a man/woman who is reading the threads.... it might be just the profile pic they like and are using it.
Same. Honest question (you touched on it weeks ago): do you trust yourself in getting the right feeling who is who. In some cases I feel like I'm talking to a girl, but then I'm told I'm not. I really have learned to doubt myself in this respect. But then it couldn't be my fault.
i know i was in a similar situation once so i can relate....unless you ft them or any other form of vc we can never know.
 
  • Like
Reactions: JoeBlogs

Chaoticjustice

Active Member
May 26, 2024
559
432
What's wrong with some people? You are welcome to have your personal disagreements and insult each other. But hell, settle it via PMand don't pollute the forum with your personal sensitivities.

Excerpt from Dev's post.
I find this a strange place to be a troll when that energy could be used constructively in a game thread the person actually enjoys.
If you're just looking to have a thoughtful discussion then welcome. I recommend reading most of this thread as there are some deep conversation exploring emotions and thought processes of the main characters based on personal experiences from the poster. There are also plenty of entertaining theories about the future.
i get where your coming from and im more than happy to have an actual conversation with some if they are willing to address the matters that they quote rather than just quote a message and posting nothing in relation to it ,ive always said ntr/nts forums where a midfield as typically you will just get some members that are solely NTR but they cant see or talk about anything outside of that , so i decided to make a point and call him out on it , simple fact of the matter is that it is what it is , im all for people enjoying there time here but i wont sit back and let someone talk the biggest pile of shit for the sake of talking shit regardless of what there opinion is , hopefully you agree with this but who knows
 

Gattsu#Struggler

Active Member
May 8, 2017
754
1,373
i get where your coming from and im more than happy to have an actual conversation with some if they are willing to address the matters that they quote rather than just quote a message and posting nothing in relation to it ,ive always said ntr/nts forums where a midfield as typically you will just get some members that are solely NTR but they cant see or talk about anything outside of that , so i decided to make a point and call him out on it , simple fact of the matter is that it is what it is , im all for people enjoying there time here but i wont sit back and let someone talk the biggest pile of shit for the sake of talking shit regardless of what there opinion is , hopefully you agree with this but who knows
Dude, you replied to my post which was game related and my view of the couple with nothing other than trying to mock me.
Then I quoted your unrelated game post with a more specific game related view how I see Huutch ending up just to spit some fire!...and again you got personal.
Only because I'm not rooting for Huutch, just because I'm rooting for Vivian to enjoy life...are you serious, lol!

From my pov Huutch is that undecided and anchored in its snail shell that only his son can free him from this kind of a boring life...or his sister (may be the one at the bar).
Hutch witnessed his own wife fucking his boss the whole fucking night - Huutchs reaction, nada!
Christian making fun of Huutch, saying that he's gonna steal his wife, that he should sacrifice, bla bla - Huutchs reaction, nada!
Look even you get personal when I write sth negative about Huutch...Huutch definetly wouldn't show any reaction!
Hutch puts up with everything, there is absolut no fire in him.
He didn't took his job serious and with that strike he is about to lose all of his boring routine.
If Huutch had a kink for what's going to happen with his wife, we could have turned a blind eye.
Given the fact that he's not just brings the barrel to overflowing to see him with such aimlessness.
Huutch doesn't deserve it better! I hope Huutch gets kicked out of the nudie bar...nobody wants someone with such a repulsive face in a strip joint!

A football manager would sub Huutch in, just to sub him out the same moment...Why? Because no fire, no reaction, no nada!
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: tagour

psychedevil

Member
Dec 1, 2024
223
378
after 20 years even sex with Vivian will get boring
See this is what I believe.... It is the same for many couples.... sex becomes a regular ritual... never changing. It becomes boring. That said I think it all stared with Vivian. She mention she would put on the sexy nightgown he likes.. He was a tiger last time. I still think she is as much a problem to Hutch libido issue ... maybe even a cause for it.
I have said much the same previously in this thread. Vivian thought to herself that it had been a quite a while since she wore that sexy nightgown for Hutch (had to dig for it in the drawer to find it). Then there's also the fact that Hutch had wanted to try anal sex with her for a long time.

Why was Vivian not putting more effort into sexually exciting her husband? Perhaps his performance would have been better if she had tried harder (like the "tiger" he was the last time she did). And why did it take her feeling guilty about having sex with another man to motivate her enough to offer these things to Hutch? Then of course when she does, Hutch isn't in the mood to make love to his wife after just having witnessed and overheard her repeatedly (and eventually eagerly) giving herself to his boss, in addition to her sharing private info that was degrading to him in the context in which it was shared (about him having to sometimes take a blue pill). At the boss' home, she defended Hutch wholeheartedly when Christian criticized him, but then in the restroom, she only defended him halfheartedly in an almost backhanded kind of way.

In thinking more about it, I believe there's a lot that Vivian is not owning up to in relation to herself and their marital satisfaction, which started long before she decided to sleep with her husband's boss. I know it's easy to hate on Hutch for not putting up more of a fight, but I continue to think that the least amount of guilt falls on him, even with his seeming inability to act in opposition to what's happening thus far. Ooooh, I would love to see the following aphorism come true: "Revenge is a dish best served cold."
 
Last edited:

gino.pilotino

Member
Nov 16, 2017
276
482
Lately I've been paying a little attention to the banners that some have, or their signatures, in short, what they advertise. Some really like games where the husband is small if not very small. They are also often lovers of NTR. Is there a correlation of some kind?
 
Last edited:
  • Haha
Reactions: Gattsu#Struggler

xcalibar4

Member
May 17, 2022
231
302
If your talking about the one I think your talking about where it's sold as something else but is essentially a super cuck simulator then that one goes hard on the cuck aspect
Yep, and I hate these stories most. Where the MC starts strong and suddenly has a nightmare his SO is fucking another and for some reason came to conclusion that he is a cuck.

Who can blame someone for escaping the boring routine, if you replace an engine that doesn't even needs the push of a button to start while the old one can only be started with a crank or choke.
Game or no game that's such a fucked up view on it , Id be curious to know if you would still have this mindset if something like this happened to you
Yep totally agree with Chaoticjustice. Many stories use this trope also . The hate for these type FMC is dialed up in a top notch than the other type of cheaters.

Loved the Bridge, Loved the way he took them down, any more like that one?
When we were married - loved the first book haven't 2 or 3 yet.
I have read his few novels (not the one you mentioned cause it's not finished). English isn't my 1st language so I may be wrong but I always felt his MMC's are borderline submissive while FMC's are borderline sadistic cheaters who thinks they have the right for the affair and husband's should be understanding enough to forgive them. I almost liked till I read the last page(She actually confirms his suspicion and hopes he goes along with it). The one I liked most is but I liked the other authors variant more .
ScoutV345 Bear with the original then read the alternate ending by a different author . It's one of my favorite ending in literotica as I always thinks your consequences can't be felt in few months or years.

I think she said Sometimes he need something to get started.... meaning not every time. That tell me he can when motivated or stimulated. I think ( probably wrong ) she is the one who got lazy or dispassionate and the sex got stale causing hutch to use other means to get it up... I'll bet there is nothing wrong with Hutch drive..
hutch wouldn't get to fuck Vivian , Vivian would fuck hutch ( not in a pegging aspect) as in that she would call the shots to what they do
I still think she is as much a problem to Hutch libido issue
He may need blue pill cause he is getting old and has a very stressful job (which Vivian also tells to Christian in the bathroom).
And I also think like every other aspect in their lives Vivian dictates when Hutch will have sex. She doesn't do it out of passion or her lust or his love/lust. She does it out of responsibility (Which Christian Hints at in negative light to seduce her).

with a character like vivian... that we have seen so far... doubt there are any marriages that last that long.
either scenarious its still betrayl premditated or not. and i agree about vivian might be the cause but we cannot say for sure until the next update.
Hutch witnessed his own wife fucking his boss the whole fucking night - Huutchs reaction, nada!
Christian making fun of Huutch, saying that he's gonna steal his wife, that he should sacrifice, bla bla - Huutchs reaction, nada!
The VN tries to show us that she always gets hit on but never faltered till now (the black student) but she never strictly says no; So I assume she always liked attention from other man and maybe yearned for something to happen (needed an excuse). I don't like to think her as a whore but a bad wife with cheater mentality; The moment she went willingly for an inappropriate kiss she became the worst cheater in my mind.

The dev himself said there's something going on inside Hutch head that's why there isn't any inner thought of him shared. I would like to think in the backyard scene he can't comprehend/understood why his faithful wife of 20 years is fucking his boss, he didn't know what to do in that situation. But he clearly gave her chance to confess the next moment they are alone and he strictly/flatly refused to let Vivian stay in the same bedroom. It was Vivian who took his hand and said "lets not insult our host by saying NO". Even when he was trying to sleep in the couch though tensed he trusted her cause till he heard noise and movement in the bedroom he didn't try to spy them I know it may seem like weak response but 20 years of trust/love doesn't go away in a moment and kitchen scene Vivian's talk can be interpreted as confusing to her husband though we know she was too willing. So he gave her enough time and space to come out clean or at-least give him a hint or something. But she kept lying till he brought that Christian wants her to work with him. Till now he was confused/angry why she did it & unsure how to handle it. Also cause Christian clearly blackmailed him with his work. It's in the BATHROOM scene he came to conclusion that she is doing it cause she wants it so he opened up their marriage, cause there is nothing else he could do to save his marriage. If she was an unwilling participant he may have quitted his job and tried to fix things in his marriage or finance. But because it's what she wants and need currently there is nothing he can do about it if he wants to keep his marriage.
 

psychedevil

Member
Dec 1, 2024
223
378
He may need blue pill cause he is getting old and has a very stressful job (which Vivian also tells to Christian in the bathroom).
And I also think like every other aspect in their lives Vivian dictates when Hutch will have sex. She doesn't do it out of passion or her lust or his love/lust. She does it out of responsibility (Which Christian Hints at in negative light to seduce her).
You and I are having much the same thoughts about this.

The VN tries to show us that she always gets hit on but never faltered till now (the black student) but she never strictly says no; So I assume she always liked attention from other man and maybe yearned for something to happen (needed an excuse). I don't like to think her as a whore but a bad wife with cheater mentality; The moment she went willingly for an inappropriate kiss she became the worst cheater in my mind.
Also, look at what Vivian chose to wear when she went to meet her husband's boss. Quite provocative for a school teacher. She may have thought his boss was some older guy and planned to try to get his attention in much the same way (showcasing her attractiveness) in convincing him to give her husband a chance, but then she was taken offguard when she actually met his boss, who was younger and more attractive to her than she had anticipated (which even caused her to fall over in shock...BACKFIRE!!!).

It's in the BATHROOM scene he came to conclusion that she is doing it cause she wants it so he opened up their marriage, cause there is nothing else he could do to save his marriage. If she was an unwilling participant he may have quitted his job and tried to fix things in his marriage or finance. But because it's what she wants and need currently there is nothing he can do about it if he wants to keep his marriage.
Yes, I agree this was the pivotal moment in Hutch realizing that Vivian was not just having sex with his boss to save his job, but was doing it in part because that's what she really wanted. When they talk later, she tries to convince Hutch that she only wants him (to which he says "want or need?"), and by that point he had seen and heard enough to know the truth.
 

xcalibar4

Member
May 17, 2022
231
302
Why was Vivian not putting more effort into sexually exciting her husband?
If sex with her husband is a way to show him that she loves him isn't sharing it another man means she doesn't love him anymore or at-least the way she used to in Hutch's eye And I would love to think that is why he stopped calling her I love you.

his way.jpg

Have you guys read a popular story in literotica called February Sucks. The original authors ending was different but somewhat likeable but the ending I liked is from another author
Here's another story (kind of BTB version).

I think it's called "cheaters fog" or something where the cheating party thinks they won't get caught or everything will be alright and be just like before even they are caught.
 

xcalibar4

Member
May 17, 2022
231
302
Hutch that she only wants him (to which he says "want or need?"), and by that point he had seen and heard enough to know the truth.
Yep and he doesn't believe her now. work-39 - he knows the difference between need and want - 1.jpg work-39 - he knows the difference between need and want - 2.jpg work-39 - he knows the difference between need and want - 3.jpg work-39 - he knows the difference between need and want - 4 - he knows her words arent' true.jpg
He said " Even if that were true" not " Even if that is true"
From chatgpt (sorry not good with English)
Even if that is true ---- Implication: You are considering the possibility that something might be true right now.
Even if that were true ---- Implication: You’re assuming it's probably not true
 
4.80 star(s) 130 Votes