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LUCIANO2020

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I bet. Must be awful - did she spell it out, or was it vague? I'm not sure what would have been worse...
Well she was 23 years and had always believe that we men as adult behave and he manipulate her in such way that she never saw that treatment from that guest as trying to seducing her. But at the end in that room after drinking wine she got very horny. And just let it happen. So was written in her dairy book.
 
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JoeBlogs

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Replayed the game a few times. The writing in general is great, but for some reason the last scene when they are talking in their home, just felt flat. It defies logic and so I still don't feel it.
I think they could have been more honest with each other (especially Vi) and still end up having the same outcome. As it is now, it just makes Hutch portrayed more like an idiotic tool than a betrayed defeated husband.
 
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Was there a v0.1 before v0.2, or is v0.2 the first version of the game?

If there was a v0.1, how long was the time gap between v0.1 and v0.2?
 

Robb123456

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Replayed the game a few times. The writing in general is great, but for some reason the last scene when they are talking in their home, just felt flat. It defies logic and so I still don't feel it.
I think they could have been more honest with each other (especially Vi) and still end up having the same outcome. As it is now, it just makes Hutch portrayed more like an idiotic tool than a betrayed defeated husband.
I get where you're coming from. But some remarks :

- Even if Vivan is not confessing, there's no doubt than from now on, for both of them, the truth is out there. They may not name it plainly, they use twisted words to talk about it, but everybody knows what this is all about.

- Vivian is under Christian's influence and followed his advice, she won't openly recognize what she has done until Hutch will.

- For the betrayed and defeated thing, he has witnesed just hours ago his wife saying Christian was better than him at sex and it's no use to fight a losing battle.

BUT

Even knowing that, from a realistic POV, it's hard to understand that Hutch didn't confront Vivian and not why he didn't at least asked why did she do that. Maybe it's because acknowledging it would be the end, because it will reveal in front of them, and only them, the magnitude of her betrayal. Bc , like Chrsitian said, he woudl never give up on the stability of his marriage. Or maybe bc he loves her so much he's ready to let her do what she wants, idk. Or a narration astuce from the dev to adress these points later. In all these instances,what he says ("The company grows, the boss is happy, people make more money,maybe you get something out of it for yourself.") doesnt't make any sense.

P.S : There''s another explanation i can think of : Hutch seeks revenge and needs time to follow through a plan of his own. But it's pure speculation.

Was there a v0.1 before v0.2, or is v0.2 the first version of the game?

If there was a v0.1, how long was the time gap between v0.1 and v0.2?
The first release was 0.2. The dev gave an indication of 4 monts between updates.
 
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nonametba

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Where are the preview images files? I see then in the game playing. But can not Find them in folders like the others vídeos/images
 

mrf293412

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Just google unren - should be on github (I hate when people say that, but unsure about being allowed to link that here sorry). Place it in the game folder and run it, then select option 1.
 

wt859

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A big troop of zealots has already formed.
The game promises to be decent, but of course, on this website, the hyper-hype is a thing.

Let's see how it evolves.
This is the first VN I've actually engaged in discussion on this site. Compared to the other VNs I've read, this one's writing is leagues above. Even the emotions/expressions on the 3D models tell a better story than most other VNs. Great example in "show, don't tell" writing. With the first release, I think it deserves the praise, but we'll see if that changes in the future.
 

JoeBlogs

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Or maybe bc he loves her so much he's ready to let her do what she wants, idk. Or a narration astuce from the dev to adress these points later. In all these instances,what he says ("The company grows, the boss is happy, people make more money,maybe you get something out of it for yourself.") doesnt't make any sense.
This is the crux of it I think. Do what she wants. He even told her "Do it, don't do it... it's up to you". And she is going to do it. (obviously so we can get a story).

But all that gibberish she said afterwards after she accepted that Christian got to him, where she knows he is hurting and the best way to help him is to let him think that it's his decision for her to practically become a free use slut so he can feel in control.... it's just too far fetched dribble, makes them both come across as mentally challenged immature teenagers.

And the "i will do anything you command of me"... Seriously? is Hutch going to say i demand you fuck my boss and all his friends? I get what the dev is trying to do, but its a weakness in the story. The whole scene is just there to make Hutch look like a pathetic tool, where up to that point he came across as hurt and defeated, but at least had his dignity. Now he has lost that too.

He should never have hugged her either. It was good that he withheld all emotionally physical contact from her. No kissing, no holding hands, no confirmation of love, etc. And then..... this, major let down.

Lets see how it all unfolds, I'm still rooting for Hutch, but I know that at lot of people are not (you psychos! :) )
 

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Everyone wants to root for the underdog. He will come back but not the way that you think. I think that clenched fist tell it all. He is pissed a Christian. I think he will look for a way to destroy him. As for Vivian... that still remains in the dev hands. However he did write that the couple will see darker times before anything gets better if at all.
 
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Robb123456

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This is the crux of it I think. Do what she wants. He even told her "Do it, don't do it... it's up to you". And she is going to do it. (obviously so we can get a story).

But all that gibberish she said afterwards after she accepted that Christian got to him, where she knows he is hurting and the best way to help him is to let him think that it's his decision for her to practically become a free use slut so he can feel in control.... it's just too far fetched dribble, makes them both come across as mentally challenged immature teenagers.

And the "i will do anything you command of me"... Seriously? is Hutch going to say i demand you fuck my boss and all his friends? I get what the dev is trying to do, but its a weakness in the story. The whole scene is just there to make Hutch look like a pathetic tool, where up to that point he came across as hurt and defeated, but at least had his dignity. Now he has lost that too.

He should never have hugged her either. It was good that he withheld all emotionally physical contact from her. No kissing, no holding hands, no confirmation of love, etc. And then..... this, major let down.

Lets see how it all unfolds, I'm still rooting for Hutch, but I know that at lot of people are not (you psychos! :) )
For me he already lost his dignity when he refused to really confront her, even after the toilet incident. When she knew she was caught, she was so desperate to save her marriage that she would have not entertained the idea of continuing her affair with Christian if he stayed in shut down mode. Come to think of it, we don't know for sure the real motivation of Hutch for doing that, neither do we know for sure how Christian "convinced Vivian to fuck him in 10 minutes. I guess the dev will give us the answers later. For me it will be at this moment I may be disappointed.

Everyone wants to root for the underdog. He will come back but not the way that you think. I think that clenched fist tell it all. He is pissed a Christian. I think he will look for a way to destroy him. As for Vivian... that still remains in the dev hands. However he did write that the couple will see darker times before anything gets better if at all.
It's true i want to root for him. But from where we are, even if (it's a big if) Hutch gets some revenge, the end will be dark whatever way the dev goes. From Hutch 'sperspective, he had seen things that broke his heart, will continue to see his wife and his boss dishonor and belitlle him, and he will have to bear this cross till the end of his life, whatever the final outcome may be. But someleads introduced by the dev foreshadow that he may not be the only one to regret what happened.
 
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JoeBlogs

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Personally, I do not want their marriage to survive, that would be the 'bad' ending as far as I'm concerned.

A "happy" ending for me would be Hutch ending up with Addison and be expecting a child together. Vivian becoming celibate, and living like a recluse due to the remorse of the death of her marriage, and her son completely cutting her out of his life. Christian gets arrested for pimping/prostitution causing a major scandal amongst his clients. Ends up loses his reputation and business, behind bars.

A "dark" ending for me would be Hutch spending the night having sex with Addison, and half way though the night picks up a gun Addison keeps for protection, then drives over to Christians. He sends a email to his son explaining and describing everything that has led to this point in time. Then breaks into the house confronts wife and boss while she is riding him cowgirl. Shoots the boss several times then points the gun to Vivian making her think she is next. Turns the gun to his own head tells her its all her fault and shoots himself dead. Vivian life gets exposed leading to her losing her job, and becomes an outcast to all who know her, even denied entry to the funeral. Her son loathes her with a passion. Months later Vivian, after visiting Hutch at the cemetery, jumps into her car and and his confronted by Addison, who looks at her and says "For Hutch" and proceeds to slit wife's throat. She leaves the knife in Vivian's hand with a fake suicide note. Nobody goes to her funeral, and she gets cremated. Her remains are posted to the son. Son knows that she would have loved to be put to rest next to Hutch. Instead he walks over to bathroom and flushes ashes in toilet, into the sewers where she belongs.
 

LUCIANO2020

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Personally, I do not want their marriage to survive, that would be the 'bad' ending as far as I'm concerned.

A "happy" ending for me would be Hutch ending up with Addison and be expecting a child together. Vivian becoming celibate, and living like a recluse due to the remorse of the death of her marriage, and her son completely cutting her out of his life. Christian gets arrested for pimping/prostitution causing a major scandal amongst his clients. Ends up loses his reputation and business, behind bars.

A "dark" ending for me would be Hutch spending the night having sex with Addison, and half way though the night picks up a gun Addison keeps for protection, then drives over to Christians. He sends a email to his son explaining and describing everything that has led to this point in time. Then breaks into the house confronts wife and boss while she is riding him cowgirl. Shoots the boss several times then points the gun to Vivian making her think she is next. Turns the gun to his own head tells her its all her fault and shoots himself dead. Vivian life gets exposed leading to her losing her job, and becomes an outcast to all who know her, even denied entry to the funeral. Her son loathes her with a passion. Months later Vivian, after visiting Hutch at the cemetery, jumps into her car and and his confronted by Addison, who looks at her and says "For Hutch" and proceeds to slit wife's throat. She leaves the knife in Vivian's hand with a fake suicide note. Nobody goes to her funeral, and she gets cremated. Her remains are posted to the son. Son knows that she would have loved to be put to rest next to Hutch. Instead he walks over to bathroom and flushes ashes in toilet, into the sewers where she belongs.
That s a dark end a deeply dark final. Not for everybody to bear
 
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