biggsexxxy

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are you really acting like a conspiracy theorist or a flat-earther in a game so easy to understand, are you really still missing a chapter in the first chapter alone, what story is it about, or what characters are they, I read 4 pages of suppositions, 2 pages just about who Addison is, ahahhahah, what is so unclear, Hutch is a passive Beta husband, one without balls, and men like that, in their miserable life, will always be doormats, whoever expects a reaction, I bet my balls, will be disappointed, Chris, is the classic handsome, rich and bully, what he wants, he gets, is already here, I find a mistake, Chris is like Superman without the weak Kryptonite, he sweeps away what passes in front of him, easy to understand, how long did it take him to screw Vivian, just one day, doing it several times, in front of the idiot Hutch, it takes a genius to understand the two male characters, another user wrote well, a simple story of Alpha against Beta, then Vivian is added, here, another blow to the story and dynamics, just one day to go from a wife who loves her husband, to an absolute slut and Chris' toy, how ridiculous can this situation be, one day, other games at least had the decency to transform wives like this, after at least a long time, here one day, then I find the scene on the couch of Vivian crying and begging for forgiveness ridiculous, ahahah, she got fucked like a slut in the bathroom an hour before, knowing that her husband was watching, and wants to force her husband to make him believe that it's for love, hahahahahah, I noted miradi of plot errors, timing, Hucth doesn't even notice Addison who is infatuated with him, no because he is in love with his wife, because he is a beta, the DEV built him as a total loser, too bad, he spoiled everything already in the first chapter, I repeat, too linear, easy to read the characters. What a pity.

Its clear you don't like this KN, and find no reason to continue with it, and I mean no disrespect, but why continue to bash it, you have said you peace, and yet you read multiple pages???? if it were me, I'd move on, again no disrespect, just curious......
 

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Its clear you don't like this KN, and find no reason to continue with it, and I mean no disrespect, but why continue to bash it, you have said you peace, and yet you read multiple pages???? if it were me, I'd move on, again no disrespect, just curious......








Saying my piece on the dynamics of a VN that is too obvious, and I think I don't offend anyone, it's my right as a user, or only those who give a positive opinion can write here, I specified that it's a shame to have written a plot in a VN, that you understand a lot only in its first chapter, forgive me if I didn't find it so fascinating to see a wife, who in just one day loses her dignity and love, "on this Love, I put many question marks", to become a sex toy, true, I'm not forced to play it, don't worry, this mistake won't be made by me, but if I read praise on a VN, that I only list a large estimate of defects, well, I laugh and I say it, it's like in the game, who is a Beta user, in front of similar games, will always love and agree, who reads a similar VN, and reacts like me, sorry, no offense, I'm an Alpha, therefore, I feel entitled and obliged, to contest the praise and the VN. greetings.
 
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Itsphred

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Its clear you don't like this KN, and find no reason to continue with it, and I mean no disrespect, but why continue to bash it, you have said you peace, and yet you read multiple pages???? if it were me, I'd move on, again no disrespect, just curious......
LOL Let Alex speak their 2 cents.. he's entitled to it.. cus by the end of the day.. I'm pretty sure all of us don't give a fuck ;)

Just read pass it, you'll survive :HideThePain:
 

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Its clear you don't like this KN, and find no reason to continue with it, and I mean no disrespect, but why continue to bash it, you have said you peace, and yet you read multiple pages???? if it were me, I'd move on, again no disrespect, just curious......
He repeats his speech multiple times in different ntr threads and got multiple times banned already. He's a masochist it seems :ROFLMAO:
 

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With regards to potential flashbacks I really would like to see what made Vivian drop her panties in the first place. She seems through the whole thing to be pretty naive about what's going on. Thinking she's in control when she isn't actually. I could see where that naivety could lead her to not resist in the backyard the first time they had sex and after that just been overwhelmed by the situation. But I could also see her succumbing to her lust in that initial encounter as well. I would really like to know which one of those things it was so I can figure out how much sympathy I can have for her character.
That's the million dollar question. I'm sure if we new what the secret is to turning a devoted wife of 22 years into a bent over common bitch within 10 minutes, we will all be rich.
I hope we do get to see the flashback. I'll be taking notes ;)

- A scene is seen in prison, Christian's ass is busted in the showers.
It would be better to see him being split-roasted.
Maybe BBC telling him to take it into his throat. Christian saying "I can't", and BBC replying "don't worry I'll help ya" before deep throating him - just like the kitchen scene ;)

-cause and effect are simply consequences that trigger outcomes. The greatest stretch of logic the game has made thus far is the whole sleepover event. Does Vivian really have any expectation with all the hollering from Christian's pounding that Hutch doesn't already know ... that all Hutch had to do was get up and see her in the backyard getting railed ... or that she doesn't stick of sex on the car ride home. It seems that's a plausibility argument, but barring the husband's ignorance myth Vivian has how does or will she think of her newfound situation. Wouldn't expect Hutch not to be miserable, but that's not the point. The point being in the journey of corruption how does it change her character.
Yeah absolutely, after a night of fucking, and no showering, her stink would be a dead giveaway. We just need to suspend our disbelief to get a good story.
 

biggsexxxy

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Let Alex speak their 2 cents.. he's entitled to it.. cu
I was honestly just curious, I have been here for a while, never posted because I never felt like I had much to offer other games, and others seem to cover them fine with out me, and I do understand it is his right to post, but I guess, if I didn't like something I'd post something and move on, not try to force my Alpha-isum on others like I have something to prove, but he answered my question, I can move on (y)
 

Itsphred

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I was honestly just curious, I have been here for a while, never posted because I never felt like I had much to offer other games, and others seem to cover them fine with out me, and I do understand it is his right to post, but I guess, if I didn't like something I'd post something and move on, not try to force my Alpha-isum on others like I have something to prove, but he answered my question, I can move on (y)
LOL there will always be people like him who need to feel like they need to be right .. And feel the need to have the last word or that their opinion matters LOL But your opinions are always welcome here and there is so much to offer!

 
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So after yet another play through, I noticed something that struck me as odd because of all the detail in in the game that most others leave out, and to be honest its a bit petty for me to even say, but Vivian's makeup and most importantly her lip stick, it is always perfect, LOL, I mean before dinner, perfect, after the tryst on the porch, perfect, after all them gagging noises from the bedroom, perfect, after the suck and fuck in the kitchen, perfect, after the second round of escapades in the bedroom till the morning, perfect, but she hit that shower and the lip stick is gone and makeup running down her face....

Me and the wife go at it for 15 minutes and her makeup is a mess, LOL

Now I am not complaining, because honestly I don't like when the makeup is running all over the place during the scene, but I just thought I had to point it out.....

Please don't hate on me, LOL

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Man, after seeing these screenshots, I realize how on point Vivian is when it comes to design. I mean, she's attractive, but while maintaining realism, it's not over the top. I don't know if her age was made clear, but she looks like a woman in her 40s, she has that housewife aura, I don't know if I'm making myself clear. Which makes it all feel more real and in a way more connected to the story that the developer wants to tell us.
 

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I don't know if her age was made clear, but she looks like a woman in her 40s, she has that housewife aura, I don't know if I'm making myself clear. Which makes it all feel more real and in a way more connected to the story that the developer wants to tell us
Yeah, it is heavily implied throughout the game's narrative that Vivian is approaching 40. Remember the scene when she visited Chris's office as 'Ms Dubois', and then when she was talking to Addison, Addison mentioned to Chris the rough age of the lady who was at the front desk, and she mentioned a lady in her '40s' middle age, etc. So, more than likely that Vivian is around 40.

Plus, it seems like her son is around 18-20 years old as a college freshman. So, that would mean that if her son is 18, Vivian must have given birth to him at 22. So, all in all, based on the evidence implied, it wouldn't be too far out of the realm of possibilities, that Vivian is in fact in her early 40s.

The realism is appreciated though, as Vivian does indeed look like how a woman her age would appear IMHO
 

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Yeah, it is heavily implied throughout the game's narrative that Vivian is approaching 40. Remember the scene when she visited Chris's office as 'Ms Dubois', and then when she was talking to Addison, Addison mentioned to Chris the rough age of the lady who was at the front desk, and she mentioned a lady in her '40s' middle age, etc. So, more than likely that Vivian is around 40.

Plus, it seems like her son is around 18-20 years old as a college freshman. So, that would mean that if her son is 18, Vivian must have given birth to him at 22. So, all in all, based on the evidence implied, it wouldn't be too far out of the realm of possibilities, that Vivian is in fact in her early 40s.

The realism is appreciated though, as Vivian does indeed look like how a woman her age would appear IMHO
And of course, they've been married for 22 years, so although you can do it earlier (depending on local laws) you're probably talking 18 at least, so 22 years on she would be 40. Obviously a couple of years after that for getting married in their (her) early 20s instead of late teens, so early to mid 40s perhaps.
 

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So after yet another play through, I noticed something that struck me as odd because of all the detail in in the game that most others leave out, and to be honest its a bit petty for me to even say, but Vivian's makeup and most importantly her lip stick, it is always perfect, LOL, I mean before dinner, perfect, after the tryst on the porch, perfect, after all them gagging noises from the bedroom, perfect, after the suck and fuck in the kitchen, perfect, after the second round of escapades in the bedroom till the morning, perfect, but she hit that shower and the lip stick is gone and makeup running down her face....

Me and the wife go at it for 15 minutes and her makeup is a mess, LOL

Now I am not complaining, because honestly I don't like when the makeup is running all over the place during the scene, but I just thought I had to point it out.....

Please don't hate on me, LOL

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hi how did you get that picture ? https://attachments.f95zone.to/2025/02/4558478_2.webp then i went to the file i didnt find such picture .
 
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Obviously a couple of years after that for getting married in their (her) early 20s instead of late teens, so early to mid 40s perhaps
Yeah that's what I initially suspected to be the case as well :sneaky: :coffee:

Spouses going through a mid-life crisis can compel them to do the most craziest of things ;)
 

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After analysing the personality of Vivian i have a theoretical dialoge from the hide scenes at the backyard. Sorry for my english and sorry for not having great skills as a writer .

Christian : hier is the backyard
Vivian. is nice house
Christian : stop behind her and whsipering in her ear : the dress suit fantastic on you , just perct.
Vivian bites her lips. Didnt say a word
Christian : well lets beginn with what we are here now. touching her waist. And smelling her neck
Vivian : what are you doing? Are you out of your mind!???
Christian: Not what are you doing ? You are here now just because i said to you and i say also to your husband not to bring you.
Christian so whos wish you are hier following your husbands or mine. You are wearing the dress i bought you.
For who do you want to look so atractive . Chrstian speaking very convincent and very strongly while grabing her hand and got her close ti him. Who do you want to reject?
Vivian : didnt say a word and as she wanted to say something.
Christian says : We are adult and you knew that a simple dinner is not going to give me back my 2 Loses Clients where almost a million of dollars are invested.
Are you being serious .
Vivian : close her eyes thinking how naive she was .Thinking that he really underestimate the words from her husband when he warned her .( Flashback in bed with her husbands words)
As suddenly she feels christian pulling her skirt up and kising her neck she could avoid to moan.
She realize is too late to go back and react and she was so aroused about the happening she surrender her lust.
As Chrsitian saying the words to her whispering : I can feel you like it .
Vivian find herself suddenly at the table and feeling how Chrsitian did his way.
The explotion of the heat of the moment was so intense that christian order her to go on her knees then he didnt want to come but in her mouth. At that moment Christian finished in she didnt swallowed all. But Chrstian says I see how you enjoy this. The Dragon feels satisfy for now . Now lets continue with the dinner. Lets go .

I hope you like it:)
 

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After analysing the personality of Vivian i have a theoretical dialoge from the hide scenes at the backyard. Sorry for my english and sorry for not having great skills as a writer .

Christian : hier is the backyard
Vivian. is nice house
Christian : stop behind her and whsipering in her ear : the dress suit fantastic on you , just perct.
Vivian bites her lips. Didnt say a word
Christian : well lets beginn with what we are here now. touching her waist. And smelling her neck
Vivian : what are you doing? Are you out of your mind!???
Christian: Not what are you doing ? You are here now just because i said to you and i say also to your husband not to bring you.
Christian so whos wish you are hier following your husbands or mine. You are wearing the dress i bought you.
For who do you want to look so atractive . Chrstian speaking very convincent and very strongly while grabing her hand and got her close ti him. Who do you want to reject?
Vivian : didnt say a word and as she wanted to say something.
Christian says : We are adult and you knew that a simple dinner is not going to give me back my 2 Loses Clients where almost a million of dollars are invested.
Are you being serious .
Vivian : close her eyes thinking how naive she was .Thinking that he really underestimate the words from her husband when he warned her .( Flashback in bed with her husbands words)
As suddenly she feels christian pulling her skirt up and kising her neck she could avoid to moan.
She realize is too late to go back and react and she was so aroused about the happening she surrender her lust.
As Chrsitian saying the words to her whispering : I can feel you like it .
Vivian find herself suddenly at the table and feeling how Chrsitian did his way.
The explotion of the heat of the moment was so intense that christian order her to go on her knees then he didnt want to come but in her mouth. At that moment Christian finished in she didnt swallowed all. But Chrstian says I see how you enjoy this. The Dragon feels satisfy for now . Now lets continue with the dinner. Lets go .

I hope you like it:)
Thanks for the scene recreation man :sneaky: (y)

Yeah, I've always wondered what conversations Vivian/Chris were having while Hutch was given homework from Chris to work on.

The words/phrases that Chris said to Vivian to get her to submit easily...Man that would have been nice to see.

Maybe in a future update, the dev will play a flashback of the backyard/dinner visit scene so we can see the actual dialogue that occurred between Vivian/Chris :unsure: That would be cool
 
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