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wt859

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Blacksamba I read your review of the VN and I have a question. You compared the relationships to medieval power dynamics (droit de cuissage), but I don't think that comparison entirely works, due to Christian not having a 'right' to Vivian, and the motivations of the characters being deeper than that. You also said the characters, their stakes, motivations, and context are believable, so how can the unfolding of events not be believable? That's like saying all the ingredients for this cake are good, but the actual cake just falls apart. I may need more insight into your thoughts because I feel your review is missing some key information to support your claim. I'm not against your review, I'm just curious.
 

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Blacksamba I read your review of the VN and I have a question. You compared the relationships to medieval power dynamics (droit de cuissage), but I don't think that comparison entirely works, due to Christian not having a 'right' to Vivian, and the motivations of the characters being deeper than that. You also said the characters, their stakes, motivations, and context are believable, so how can the unfolding of events not be believable? That's like saying all the ingredients for this cake are good, but the actual cake just falls apart. I may need more insight into your thoughts because I feel your review is missing some key information to support your claim. I'm not against your review, I'm just curious.
For the " droit de cuissage" part, i have to say it's a tenacious legend, which has no no historical foundation whatsoever.

The right of cuissage, also called right of jambage and sometimes right of deflowering, is a lively legend according to which a lord would have had the right to have sexual relations with the wife of a vassal or a serf on the first night of his wedding (Jus primae noctis, abbreviated Prima nocta 1).

This "right" reserving defloration to a lord would have been a variation of the right of quittage or formariage, which really existed, which obliged a serf wishing to marry his daughter outside the fief of his lord to pay the said lord three sous in exchange for his symbolic authorization of the marriage2.

Overall, this practice - although it may have been occasionally implemented by certain powerful people abusing their power, the feudal lords having strong rights over the serfs - never actually had any legal existence in Europe, and was mainly brandished after the French Revolution to discredit the feudal regime.

For the rest, the unfolding of events not being believable, i agree but i think it's personnal matter if you get over it or not. After all, this is a porn game.
 
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Gattsu#Struggler

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This is a KN not a biography or autobiography. When did Dev tell his story has anything to do with reality?
Exactly,...never! So whoever compares this to reality I recommend them to get dressed, step aside and take a breath of reality outside, or watch porn with real persons but don't expect a real story behind it!
He wants to entertain and to achieve this he did a marvelous work by trying to capture our thoughts with his pictures instead of heavy dialogues.
 

JoeBlogs

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Wouldn't it be interesting if the reason the business lost the 2 clients, was because Christian fucked the respective owners' wives, resulting in said owners finding out and ending their business.
Then the whole cause of the issue would have been Christian's fault to start with!
 

SideshowBobNo.2

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Wouldn't it be interesting if the reason the business lost the 2 clients, was because Christian fucked the respective owners' wives, resulting in said owners finding out and ending their business.
Then the whole cause of the issue would have been Christian's fault to start with!
It would make the story even more bitter and it's very likely that it will play out like this.
I have the feeling that the dev uses this kind of scenario as a bad surprise at the end.
Then Vivian would have prostituted/whored herself for nothing.
 

wt859

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For the " droit de cuissage" part, i have to say it's a tenacious legend, which has no no historical foundation whatsoever.

The right of cuissage, also called right of jambage and sometimes right of deflowering, is a lively legend according to which a lord would have had the right to have sexual relations with the wife of a vassal or a serf on the first night of his wedding (Jus primae noctis, abbreviated Prima nocta 1).

This "right" reserving defloration to a lord would have been a variation of the right of quittage or formariage, which really existed, which obliged a serf wishing to marry his daughter outside the fief of his lord to pay the said lord three sous in exchange for his symbolic authorization of the marriage2.

Overall, this practice - although it may have been occasionally implemented by certain powerful people abusing their power, the feudal lords having strong rights over the serfs - never actually had any legal existence in Europe, and was mainly brandished after the French Revolution to discredit the feudal regime.

For the rest, the unfolding of events not being believable, i agree but i think it's personnal matter if you get over it or not. After all, this is a porn game.
I'm just confused as to how the reviewer said the characters, motivations, and context are all believable, but the unfolding events aren't. Those two statements contradict each other. Your information about the "droit de cuissage" was interesting nonetheless.
 

wt859

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Wouldn't it be interesting if the reason the business lost the 2 clients, was because Christian fucked the respective owners' wives, resulting in said owners finding out and ending their business.
Then the whole cause of the issue would have been Christian's fault to start with!
That would actually be a surprising twist, but I think it would make Christian too much of a "mastermind" villain, rather than an opportunistic boss who saw vulnerability in a marriage.
 

SideshowBobNo.2

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Robb123456 said:
"The right of cuissage, also called right of jambage and sometimes right of deflowering, is a lively legend according to which a lord would have had the right to have sexual relations with the wife of a vassal or a serf on the first night of his wedding"

This would make a good game.
One ugly bastard that has sex with all the virgins in his land ownership.
 

SideshowBobNo.2

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That would actually be a surprising twist, but I think it would make Christian too much of a "mastermind" villain, rather than an opportunistic boss who saw vulnerability in a marriage.
Maybe he is just some lucky sob who goes with the flow and uses failures as advantages.
People like him exist and they don't need to be overly smart.
 
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In the end the best ending I can think of Christian gets arrested Hutch has Addison as his woman and Vivian wants to prove her love to Hutch she becomes Submissive to hutch and Addison. He used her sexual acts connections to start his own business. But due to her action and the ridicule her son had to endure strained their relationship.
 
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SideshowBobNo.2

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Vivian wants to prove her love to Hutch she becomes Submissive to hutch and Addison. He used her sexual acts connections to start his own business.
"He used her sexual acts connections to start his own business"
Alright...Hutch starts a brothel with Vivian as the main attraction. "the hottest MILF in town"
 
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So after yet another play through, I noticed something that struck me as odd because of all the detail in in the game that most others leave out, and to be honest its a bit petty for me to even say, but Vivian's makeup and most importantly her lip stick, it is always perfect, LOL, I mean before dinner, perfect, after the tryst on the porch, perfect, after all them gagging noises from the bedroom, perfect, after the suck and fuck in the kitchen, perfect, after the second round of escapades in the bedroom till the morning, perfect, but she hit that shower and the lip stick is gone and makeup running down her face....

Me and the wife go at it for 15 minutes and her makeup is a mess, LOL
In a perfect world I'd be able to show the wear and tear on Vivian. Unfortunately there are logistical limitations to what I can render using off the shelf products. If I were more skilled, had a production team helping me, and/or more time to give, then maybe I could but I can't. Glad you're enjoy the story, though. The friendly debates here are entertaining. A couple of you have made some scary accurate predictions (of course, I'm not saying who). I'm doing all I can to get the next installment done while maintaining the same quality as the first.
 

LUISIL

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In a perfect world I'd be able to show the wear and tear on Vivian. Unfortunately there are logistical limitations to what I can render using off the shelf products. If I were more skilled, had a production team helping me, and/or more time to give, then maybe I could but I can't. Glad you're enjoy the story, though. The friendly debates here are entertaining. A couple of you have made some scary accurate predictions (of course, I'm not saying who). I'm doing all I can to get the next installment done while maintaining the same quality as the first.
Hey Man...don't get discouraged on some INSIGNIFICANTS details. Keep Focus, your product is currently the best in this site.It hurts that we must wait 4 FOUR CUATRO QUATRO QUATRE! months, but your effort will make it worth the Wait.
 

JoeBlogs

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A couple of you have made some scary accurate predictions (of course, I'm not saying who). I'm doing all I can to get the next installment done while maintaining the same quality as the first.
Hey come on! Give us a little hint in which direction pleeeeeze. I'll be your best friend :)
 

biggsexxxy

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In a perfect world I'd be able to show the wear and tear on Vivian. Unfortunately there are logistical limitations to what I can render using off the shelf products. If I were more skilled, had a production team helping me, and/or more time to give, then maybe I could but I can't. Glad you're enjoy the story, though. The friendly debates here are entertaining. A couple of you have made some scary accurate predictions (of course, I'm not saying who). I'm doing all I can to get the next installment done while maintaining the same quality as the first.
Honestly I prefer the way you have done it, the wear and tear starts to look awful, and she is too beautiful and sexy to look that way, keep it up, your story is amazing and the best I have seen in my 7+ years here!!!!!
 
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