VN Ren'Py My New Girlfriend [Ch. 4] [CircleGames]

[CircleGames]

ONE THING I WANNA CLEAR OUT

I did not cave in to anything !! I do not give a fuck about keyboard warriors...That being said, I decided to change the artstyle because it aligns with my morals. Like I said a few posts back, I got myself familiar with Melkors work and I agree it was to similar. I did not train the AI on his style, that was avaiable online already, I just looked at it and decided to use it, because it looked fucking good. I should have informed myself better, that is on me. I got to excited with the art I was able to produce and never tought about searching about possible problems with the artstyle. I got ahead of myself and started writing, learning Renpy coding, etc...It happens but nothing that cannot be fixed.

 

[Nafraq]

Just tried out your game, not bad at all for a first release!

As a side note, fuck the keyboard warriors. We could use more artwork in the style of Melkor whether AI assisted or not with it being simple like you said: It looks fucking good!

Either way, good luck with the game and search of your own style, either way ill keep an eye out on the upcoming updates !

 

[Peach Enthusiast]

I just looked at it and decided to use it, because it looked fucking good.

It did look good. Really good. It will be sad to lose it. Hopefully the new style will be just as good.

 

[ffive]

its also my bad since I wrote " a white MC cucking black guys " I didn't express myself correctly in the first post

So, you know, the current activity in the big brother clone games threads make me think -- someone should make yet another of these games, this time Big Brother: Black spin-off, with the whole family (Max included) being Black, but still white Eric. Then you'd have the game you wanted, with black MC getting cucked by white guy.

It'd also be a perfect bait for forum shit-storm, i imagine.

 

[randomguy6516265165]

So, you know, the current activity in the big brother clone games threads make me think -- someone should make yet another of these games, this time Big Brother: Black spin-off, with the whole family (Max included) being Black, but still white Eric. Then you'd have the game you wanted, with black MC getting cucked by white guy.

It'd also be a perfect bait for forum shit-storm, i imagine.

that fire would be hotter than the sun xD

 

[FMag]

Awesome art. My favorites tags. Great start.

 

[Ion.TemUS]

What is Makima doing in this game?

 

[Illustrivity]

I know people like to bitch about AI art (especially when it's obviously derived from a specific artist's style) but fuck it, I still love this art style, and I can't wait for the game's actual plot to relentlessly degenerate (outside of MC's dreams). Right now, it's just too tease-y and there's not enough content, but definitely gonna keep an eye out for this when it gets more content.

 

[TeJin1410]

I love your art,hope you can add text frame opacity in future.....

 

[Icarus Media]

AI fetish too. The robots are into interracial cuckoldry

Even machines get tired of binary interactions sometimes.

 

[Theovonpapen]

Apparently, taking a rather generic AI hentai style and remolding it is somehow stealing someone's art according too 26suspects.

In the end, CircleGames is a dude who just jumped in to the porn game development and apparently has no clue on what an overview is, instead believing a description of the hypothetical is enough.

Mind you, that even as I didn't make the game (and it didn't make it to latest update), at least I keep the main post of the thread look formal. I'm sure your history with the site should give you some insight on how to present your game in first impression.

 

[bhz253]

Tried yesterday, very promising, kinda sad if the new style is too different than the previous one but that's life. Eager to see more !

 

[Peach Enthusiast]

Tried yesterday, very promising, kinda sad if the new style is too different than the previous one but that's life. Eager to see more !

CircleGames, I hope the new style will retain the "big butts in tight clothing" aspect at least lol.

 

[ffive]

Apparently, taking a rather generic AI hentai style and remolding it is somehow stealing someone's art

"a rather generic style" is still AI trained on someone's art. It's just someone whose name isn't as known as the fappers' darling that got them all up in arms in this thread.

 

[CircleGames]

"a rather generic style" is still AI trained on someone's art. It's just someone whose name isn't as known as the fappers' darling that got them all up in arms in this thread.

True, not someones art but problably a lot of different arts combine, anime is a good example

 

[CircleGames]

CircleGames, I hope the new style will retain the "big butts in tight clothing" aspect at least lol.

You shall see, new art update drops today or tomorrow

 

[ffive]

True, not someones art but problably a lot of different arts combine, anime is a good example

"A lot of different arts" in the context of AI training means "art of many someones" instead of only one person. It's just stealing from more people. So if stealing from one person doesn't align with your morals like you claimed, then doing it from more than one person shouldn't really align, either...

 

[CircleGames]

"A lot of different arts" in the context of AI training means "art of many someones" instead of only one person. It's just stealing from more people. So if stealing from one person doesn't align with your morals like you claimed, then doing it from more than one person shouldn't really align, either...

Stealing is a strong word, it is not that simple, first one needs to educate himself on how AI works, for example Melkor from what I have seen never worked with horse cocks or bestiality yet you can make bestiality AI art with his style, so how is that possible? Well first the AI analises Melkor style then analises what bestiality art is and then combines them in a new creation, a creation, is AI stealing bestiality porn from Melkor ? It would be hard to argue that, one can say that the AI created a brand new image following the peculiar style traits of Melkor, if it was a human doing that, there would be no issues, but since it is AI it is a problem. I am not defending anything, I am just saying I understand both sides of the spectrum and their arguments. But make no mistake, technology is like time, it stops for absolutly no one, and like time, it only knows one way, foward. AI is gonna be integrated on everything, movies, games, music, art...despite our opinions on the matter.

 

[WhitechapelRipper]

It's unfortunate that you're stepping away from Melkor's art style. I would've loved a game styled after Melkor's art considering his comics have been lackluster recently but you do you bro. Excited to see what you got cookin.

 

[ffive]

Stealing is a strong word, it is not that simple, first one needs to educate himself on how AI works, for example Melkor from what I have seen never worked with horse cocks or bestiality yet you can make bestiality AI art with his style, so how is that possible?

I'm afraid it is this simple. The AI generates a mash-up/blend of digested artworks (with elements internally linked to provided tags). So if it produces art like you describe, it simply means it was trained on work of artists who made such art (in this case Melkor and some other guy(s) who drew horse cocks or whatever) The "stealing" refers to that training part of the process, because it's quite literally taking in people's work. It may be similar to how a human learns to copy someone else's drawing style, but note that a person who does it will be similarly treated with contempt at best, or accused/charged with plagiarism at worst.

But anyway, this is probably not something worth continuing, the same discussions can be found in most of the threads for games that went for the ai generation.