SymbioticLife

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The logic makes no sense, even with the most cursory inspection. If what everyone wants is X, then denying them and going with Y instead is not a good money-making scheme. What sort of conspiracy even is this? Many devs and many players have very different views on how fast progression should be and how much buildup there should be. If it was a question of making money, then doing tons of NTS sex scenes is no more arduous than not doing them. I don't know why people think there's something there.

It's more that some people really want something, so when they don't get it they make up all sorts of conspiracies as to why it's not immediately happening (this applies to far more than AVNs). But ultimately, it's baseless theorizing. Every arc has buildup because that's how CG likes to do things. For him, the buildup is at least as sexy as the payoff and just as important. In terms of my view, which is just as subjective as anyone else's, I enjoy this method where everything gets buildup to a point where when it happens it feels like a natural consequence of what's come before. It also allows you to play with far more concepts. Once you've made a progression, you can't take it back, which means any idea you had that's less "hardcore" is more or less off the table. This means quick progression can quickly throw you into a trap, with many cool ideas you might have tabled. If you do want "fast food" type AVNs, many of them exist! One isn't necessarily better than the other, although I much prefer the slower pacing and find the quick ones not worth the time to play, myself. But as I keep reiterating nobody is being told to like the game, I do find it interesting though that many of those who have complained about the direction for about a year now still show up to the thread daily, make of that what you will.

All this being said, people are making a lot of assumptions about the update. Despite literally knowing two of the major "events" of the update as they've been publicly announced, no guesses have come very close at all to what actually occurs during and after those events.
 

Artist271

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Anyways, to change topic to something that isn't a conspiracy theory and/or baseless assumptions of malicious intent like guys like to overdo.


What is something people love about the game that is different from others?
 
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VoyeurRed

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I mean it isn't just any project, it's his passion project. Who's to say the introduction of said characters isnt part of his vision? We forget that behind the game there's a developer who wants their passion project to be faithful to their vision. It doesn't always mean a financial strategy, And as said before, introduction of characters is a common occurrence of stories, it doesn't equate as synonym with malicious intent.

We shouldn't jump to assuming the worst about him and how the story plays out without even having the chapter in our hands, it's bad faith.

But I can see your point, you're definitely onto something if said new character's take too much off of the story. It would sour the chapter and if it so happens, I will probably lean into him having malicious intent.

Personally I think the reasoning of said new characters is to introduce a couple with an NTS dynamic like vi and Erik to guide vi and Erik on their NTS dynamic, and maybe borrow each other's girlfriends little by little, but given that we're in chapter 6.. the little by little will be faster since we're already on chapter 6.
bro just be honest.....are you symbioticlife? because you definenitly talk like them and respond to people in the same way....its honestly creepy that they would have 2 different accounts on here but obviously not unheard of either
 

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Does anyone have information about the release date? At least a few spoilers to catch)
No exact release date as Circle will be "shadow dropping" the game or something along those lines. But it will be dropped sometime this week according to Circle. They also have a that hasn't been shared yet that might offer some more insight. Hope this helps.
 
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Dmitr

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Actually, it’s simpler than it seems. The new character Kira was added so that those who expect Vi to have sex with other guys would calm down. Kira will do what fans want from Vi — that’s why Kira is basically a copy of Vi, just with darker skin tone.


For those hoping for any progress from Vi in terms of sex with other men — that’s not going to happen. Remember this: Vi will not be having sex with other men in this game.


As @witcher said, people may lose interest in the game if the author can’t come up with engaging new arcs. And he won’t. That’s why he’s stretching the storyline as much as possible.


In my opinion, though, the author could’ve already finished this game and started working on a new project instead!
 

Hazystomp

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I don't think there's a need of a whole as football team amount of caste for a story to succeed. Seems like the dev is trying to make this game the top of the AIcg genre for a while, like if you ask someone what is the best 3dcg game most would say being a dik, eternum or other top games. And they all have a large caste of characters.
Obviously there's nothing wrong with that just that following this logic it's expected that Vi wouldn't get a great amount of screen time and the story will be far slower so it's better to brace ourselvs for a slow-burn.
 
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Zobra

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I mean it isn't just any project, it's his passion project
That good Hear , let just hope we don't end up with "I lost my Cat" "My dog died" "i spilled coffee on my pc "Divorce Process" yada yada yada kind of stuff , could be true tho i'm just saying , shit happens in life , but you know what i mean...of course we don't want any of that to happen.
people have high hopes , just look at the rating , this game looks awesome...an Abandoned tag will ruin it..
 

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While the game has been in development for over a year, it's important to remember that less than a month has passed in the game's internal timeline. That's why I find it hard to agree with the claims that "the plot is developing too slowly."

Of course, waiting is never pleasant, but we have to be realistic: a developer simply can't release high-quality updates every single week. Working with AI is a complex and labor-intensive process, not just a matter of pressing a button. Maybe by 2050 it will be that easy (if we live long enough, that is).

As for the claims that he 'can and should' release updates more often or that he should have finished everything long ago... I can't speak about that with the same certainty as some people. We don't know him personally and have no idea what's going on in his life. Maybe he's being lazy or deliberately stalling the process, or maybe he has other concerns—personal issues, or he's volunteering at an animal shelter, for example. It's rather rash to judge without knowing all the circumstances.

Your criticism about the plot's pacing would carry a lot more weight if the gameplay lasted, say, 10 hours. However, at the moment it's only about two and that depends entirely on your reading speed and "hand speed."

So, while he's out there possibly rescuing kittens from trees or fending off Martians, I'm just going to put my expectations on pause and go level up my patience skill. They say it's the rarest resource on the internet anyway.
 

Artist271

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You're gonna getting reported by those abuse mod again. just like in SoA. and yes what up there is probably true. anyway when MNGF gonna get update from circle?
You'll be happy to know, the update is coming out this week according to the dev.
 

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I hope circlegames adds a world building element to the game, just so we can see that the earth is actually flat. I'm on the side of the truth, I want my conspiracy theory to be proven right! I feel safe in this thread, seeing as how many conspiracy theorists such as myself there are here.
 
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Artist271

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Rule 7 of on-topic threads.


Anyways, what do people here think will happen in the photoshoot? how far will vi go there? I want some predictions.
 

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Hopefully we get it this weekend, feels like it's been delayed way too many times.
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Come on, dude, let him cook, dude, he keeps delaying the release time and time again, but it's still a cool game, dude, I understand that it's a game with AI art, dude, but it's not as easy as it seems, dude, in fact, making AI art is probably even harder than drawing, dude, we should be grateful that he releases updates every 3-5 months, not once a year, dude.
 
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