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Ashira13

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well, the new patreon guidelines are a problem for all developers and fans....


Incest

Incest refers to sexual activities or relationships between close relatives.

Not permitted

  • Real or animated works (photo, video, written, audio) featuring sexual activity or role play interactions between family members who are blood relatives or part of the same immediate family (e.g. siblings, parents, adopted children, step-siblings, step-parents).
Permitted

  • Sexual activity between members of a family who are not blood relatives (e.g. in-laws).
  • Personal accounts or survival stories involving incest.
  • Fictional plot points involving incest that are part of a larger narrative (e.g. Game of Thrones).
Pornography and nudity

Not permitted


  • Pornography, defined as visual depictions (e.g. photos, videos) of human(s) engaging in sexual activities including but not limited to sexual intercourse, masturbation, or oral sex (e.g. genitals, sex toys, or related instruments inserted into anus, vagina, or mouth).
  • Mouths, sex toys, or related instruments being used for the stimulation of certain body parts such as genitals, anus, breast or nipple (as opposed to hip, arm, or armpit which would be permitted).
  • Simulations of oral sex or other sexual acts using fingers, mouth, tongue, or feet.
  • Nudity depicting genital-to-genital contact among humans.
  • Aroused human genitalia (e.g. erect penis or wet vagina, whether clothed or not).
  • Drawing attention inside an anus or genitals by touching the surrounding area, bending, stretching, zooming in or cropping the image for non-medical or health-related reasons.
  • Fetish works involving bodily fluids (e.g. blood, feces, semen, urine, vomit).
Permitted

  • Human nudity that does not meet the above criteria.
  • Non-visual depictions (e.g. written, audio such as ASMR) of sexual activity.
  • Intimate activity that falls short of sexual activity (e.g. open-mouthed kissing, grinding, lap dancing).
  • Nudity in medical, educational, or healthcare contexts (e.g. childbirth, breastfeeding, gender affirming surgery, mastectomy surgery, medical exams involving genitals); these examples are permitted not just in the Adult/18+ category, but the All Audiences category, as well.
  • Animated or illustrated works (e.g. cartoons, comic strips, graphic novels) that depict nudity in sexual contexts as long as they comply with Patreon’s other guidelines.
  • Massaging body parts other than genitals or anus (e.g. back, shoulders, breasts, buttocks).
  • Storylines in which a sexual encounter is a plot point contributing to the larger narrative.
 

txe320

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Dec 4, 2023
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They are stupid.... If it was real, I would understand, but animated and fictional shit? come on now.

I've seen movies that have incest but games? oh noes, gotta stop that asap.

Patreon is a lost cause.
And just so you know, Patreon is totally okay with things Game of Thrones-incest related, because it's GoT......
 

Karla Jean

Member
Oct 5, 2022
134
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well, the new patreon guidelines are a problem for all developers and fans....


Incest

Incest refers to sexual activities or relationships between close relatives.

Not permitted

  • Real or animated works (photo, video, written, audio) featuring sexual activity or role play interactions between family members who are blood relatives or part of the same immediate family (e.g. siblings, parents, adopted children, step-siblings, step-parents).
Permitted

  • Sexual activity between members of a family who are not blood relatives (e.g. in-laws).
  • Personal accounts or survival stories involving incest.
  • Fictional plot points involving incest that are part of a larger narrative (e.g. Game of Thrones).
Pornography and nudity

Not permitted


  • Pornography, defined as visual depictions (e.g. photos, videos) of human(s) engaging in sexual activities including but not limited to sexual intercourse, masturbation, or oral sex (e.g. genitals, sex toys, or related instruments inserted into anus, vagina, or mouth).
  • Mouths, sex toys, or related instruments being used for the stimulation of certain body parts such as genitals, anus, breast or nipple (as opposed to hip, arm, or armpit which would be permitted).
  • Simulations of oral sex or other sexual acts using fingers, mouth, tongue, or feet.
  • Nudity depicting genital-to-genital contact among humans.
  • Aroused human genitalia (e.g. erect penis or wet vagina, whether clothed or not).
  • Drawing attention inside an anus or genitals by touching the surrounding area, bending, stretching, zooming in or cropping the image for non-medical or health-related reasons.
  • Fetish works involving bodily fluids (e.g. blood, feces, semen, urine, vomit).
Permitted

  • Human nudity that does not meet the above criteria.
  • Non-visual depictions (e.g. written, audio such as ASMR) of sexual activity.
  • Intimate activity that falls short of sexual activity (e.g. open-mouthed kissing, grinding, lap dancing).
  • Nudity in medical, educational, or healthcare contexts (e.g. childbirth, breastfeeding, gender affirming surgery, mastectomy surgery, medical exams involving genitals); these examples are permitted not just in the Adult/18+ category, but the All Audiences category, as well.
  • Animated or illustrated works (e.g. cartoons, comic strips, graphic novels) that depict nudity in sexual contexts as long as they comply with Patreon’s other guidelines.
  • Massaging body parts other than genitals or anus (e.g. back, shoulders, breasts, buttocks).
  • Storylines in which a sexual encounter is a plot point contributing to the larger narrative.
"Animated or illustrated works that depict nudity in sexual contexts as long as they comply with Patreon's other guidelines" are permitted. The restrictions on pornography are only for photos or videos of actual people. Developers are, for the moment, protected.
 
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The restrictions on pornography are only for photos or videos of actual people. Developers are, for the moment, protected.
"Pornography, defined as visual depictions (e.g. photos, videos) of human(s)" yeah but it's the other part that matters to most these Devs.

I'd say that's more for the games that use Real Life images and such. Does "Animated" = "rendered" ? or like a cartoon? trying to figure things out a bit more clearly. Lol, humans... they sound like Aliens or some shit.
 

Karla Jean

Member
Oct 5, 2022
134
298
"Pornography, defined as visual depictions (e.g. photos, videos) of human(s)" yeah but it's the other part that matters to most these Devs.

I'd say that's more for the games that use Real Life images and such. Does "Animated" = "rendered" ? or like a cartoon? trying to figure things out a bit more clearly. Lol, humans... they sound like Aliens or some shit.
Rendered graphics would be covered under Illustrated. What's the "other part" that matters to them? Developers have been operating under these rules for a long time, these aren't new restrictions. These are actually old restrictions since in the latest update they said they were getting rid of the "Game of Thrones" bit to "minimize confusion."
 

turgsh01

Member
Apr 13, 2020
315
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I agree that Patreon really sucks now. But for the majority of ppl, it's their best option for donations. So why not just have a Patreon account where you do nothing at all with it other than post progress updates and maybe non-lewded images. They wouldn't be able to give him a hard time with that, and the fans could still donate without issues. Use Discord for the content releases and lewds (if it hasn't already been done that way yet).
 

Mommysbuttslut

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Feb 19, 2021
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I agree that Patreon really sucks now. But for the majority of ppl, it's their best option for donations. So why not just have a Patreon account where you do nothing at all with it other than post progress updates and maybe non-lewded images. They wouldn't be able to give him a hard time with that, and the fans could still donate without issues. Use Discord for the content releases and lewds (if it hasn't already been done that way yet).
When Patreon finds that he's releasing game updates to his discord that's linked to this game, or when they discover that game updates are being released to this site which links to his Patreon, they'll potentially use that as an opportunity to shut his Patreon down. Quite a few devs have had what goes on in their F95zone threads used as a basis to have their Patreons put under review lately. It's happened to Killer now, it's happened to Trope, Radiant had their Patreon links removed from the F95 thread so it wouldn't happen to them.
Patreon doesn't care if it happens off site, and it looks like they don't care if it's fan made. If your work is incest adjacent enough that it's tagged as an incest game they'll reserve the right to shut it down off of their service. We really need a new alternative way to pay developers. Subscribe Star is good but they're not going to last forever either. Eventually the credit card companies will put the same pressure on them that they put on paypal, who then put it on Patreon.
 
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JGNeon

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"Animated or illustrated works that depict nudity in sexual contexts as long as they comply with Patreon's other guidelines" are permitted. The restrictions on pornography are only for photos or videos of actual people. Developers are, for the moment, protected.
Not for this game it isn't, or even My New Family (Killer7's other venture), because, as also highlighted above:

Not permitted
  • Real or animated works (photo, video, written, audio) featuring sexual activity or role play interactions between family members who are blood relatives or part of the same immediate family (e.g. siblings, parents, adopted children, step-siblings, step-parents).
Essentially, pornographic incest is not permitted on Patreon, no matter if it's fictional or real, since that would violate one of "Patreon's other guidelines" - so, both comics and games, and even written stories.

They seem to be fine with non-pornographic incest, though (GoT style).
 

Karla Jean

Member
Oct 5, 2022
134
298
Not for this game it isn't, or even My New Family (Killer7's other venture), because, as also highlighted above:


Essentially, pornographic incest is not permitted on Patreon, no matter if it's fictional or real, since that would violate one of "Patreon's other guidelines" - so, both comics and games, and even written stories.

They seem to be fine with non-pornographic incest, though (GoT style).
Right, but that's not a new policy, they've been dinging creators for that for years and creators either make stories within the guidelines or they manage plausible deniability. It's not the end of porn games, it's just a stupid policy and an inconvenience.
 

QaliberDK

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Dec 19, 2020
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Not much to ssy about the shit show that is patreon.
But covid is no joke when my wife and I got it, I just had some extra fatigue. My wife however was bed ridden for days with a high fever and slightly delusional.

Hopefully you have a speedy recoverery.
Similar situation here. Me and my girlfriend both had it too. She had a fever and felt really bad but started feeling better pretty quickly, still able to do house chores and daily tasks, no problem. Me, on the other hand, spent three days in bed thinking this was the end. Barely ate for three days, could barely drink but still had to damn near crawl to the bathroom a few times, as food and water would upset my stomach and rapidly exit from either end.

Went from freezing like hell to sweating bullets like every two hours. I would be in bed, fully clothed, woolly socks on, using three duvets and still freezing, shaking like i had an epileptic seizure.
After an hour or two when i stopped shaking and stopped freezing, it would switch to feeling like i was being cooked alive, just
lying in bed in my boxers, no duvet, having a bad case of the coldsweats.
Until i started shaking and freezing again, of course.

Not gonna lie, three days of that scared me a bit, it was fucking horrible. After the three days were over, i think i spent a week and a half just feeling like i had a really bad cold. It hits everyone differently, it seems.
 
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