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Eh, not a big fan of vanilla. Too boring. If it has good art or if it's mixed with other fetishes, such as straight shota, I can enjoy it, but most of the time I steer clear. I prefer me some rape and corruption over vanilla any day.
Not exactly a fan of rape, at least not the ordinary kind, but corruption is always a plus.

Funny that you should mention straight shota, as that is rarely done well in western games.
It works well enough for the Japanese. Around here though there's the issue of legal age, so you end up with supposed shota characters that are 18 but look 12, surrounded by giant women. The Twist, to name a popular example, was pretty funny in that regard.

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On a different note, sorry to the OP for going completely off topic in your thread.
 

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Not exactly a fan of rape
Well, that's a shame. To each their own, I guess. Your loss. :)

Funny that you should mention straight shota, as that is rarely done well in western games.
It works well enough for the Japanese. Around here though there's the issue of legal age, so you end up with supposed shota characters that are 18 but look 12, surrounded by giant women. The Twist, to name a popular example, was pretty funny in that regard.

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On a different note, sorry to the OP for going completely off topic in your thread.
True. The Nipponese do shota way better. It helps that they can get away with not stating any exact ages. Like in MGQ. The prudish empires of the West demand that everyone be 18 or over. It's ridiculous.
And yeah, we should probably give this topic a rest. Either that or move it elsewhere. Sorry for the spam OP.
 

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He also used the words beautiful girls. Which is not what the one i refer to is.
Regardless stop being so serious it was just a joke.

If he wants beautiful girls he should check out BigBrother that game has beautiful girls for all types of interests.
i love that game.
 

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i have not played this game yet but read some of the comments and IMO "beautiful girls" can be anything as everyone has there own likes and dislikes and as for the story line to sex ratio that also cant be 100% for everyone as some ppl like story line more and others just want sex i have played game were u read text for like an hour then u get to hav sex 1 time for like 10/sec i dont like long story lines but i like to hav a good one and i like to pick what i say very often

P.s as for "saggy tits" i agree thats not what i like and yes from the pick they did look saggy but u can also say that they r more realistic (not counting for size or age)
 
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i just got done with the game its very short atm (only like 15 mins of game play) but i like it so far i hope there will be updates
 

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Sorry, I didn't understand what you were trying to say there? Did it work for you or it didn't? What was not the scene?

If you replaced the original script.rpy file in the subfolder named "game" inside your game's root folder and started the game, then you should have seen an extra image and a few extra lines in the scene in Nikki's bedroom. The one where she is wearing a towel.
If you put that file in a wrong folder, then it can not work. You have to open the "game" subfolder where the original script.rpy file is located and replace the file with the one inside the attached 7z file. You'll need 7Zip or WinRAR archiver to extract it from there.
everything is fine! with your script, the scene turned out,thank you
 

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That's what I don't get. You'd think being fit and having some muscles would be that view. It's what most people expect from guys. But for some reason not from women. I just don't get it. Having a strong, athletic female seems far more appealing to me me than a... I don't even know what to call it. Round? Round women? Average? Slender but not muscularly defined. Supermodels. Like, sure, they're tall, slender and have sexy, long legs. But there's nothing else. Just a flat belly. Not an ab to be seen. Such a shame.
And then of course the weird obsession with phat asses. It baffles the mind.
That's because straight men aren't attracted to the same things as straight women, so the expectations are different. What you're describing as your ideal woman is very masculine and wouldn't be considered attractive to most straight men. Besides, the women in Dreams of Desire are clearly in better shape than the average woman off the street. Other than the younger sister, who is fit but slender, they all look like they spend hours in the gym every day. They DO have abs, and clearly defined athletic builds. But it sounds like you're more into the sister from Battle of the Bulges.
 

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I wouldn't neccesarily considdr someone to like a big ass "weird" as it is the most common fetish among all others in today's world. I like a woman with abs...a little...but I'd prefer without honestly. It just comes off as too masculine. A toned stomach is a very good healthy middle for me imo.
 
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That's because straight men aren't attracted to the same things as straight women, so the expectations are different. What you're describing as your ideal woman is very masculine and wouldn't be considered attractive to most straight men.
Not at all. A woman isn't masculine just because she works out and has a fit body. I completely disagree with this statement. Not that I'd mind a masculine woman. I do like me some tomboys.
If having some muscle on her is not attractive to most straight men then I just can't help but believe there is something wrong with them. A woman who takes care of her body is a very attractive thing. Their loss if they don't want that.

Besides, the women in Dreams of Desire are clearly in better shape than the average woman off the street. Other than the younger sister, who is fit but slender, they all look like they spend hours in the gym every day. They DO have abs, and clearly defined athletic builds. But it sounds like you're more into the sister from Battle of the Bulges.
Don't know what Dreams of Desire has anything to do with this. I never said anything against it.
And clearly you haven't read my posts if you think the girls from Battle of the Bulges is what I'm after. I stated the exact opposite of that. Don't make assumptions when the facts are right there.
 

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I wouldn't neccesarily considdr someone to like a big ass "weird" as it is the most common fetish among all others in today's world. I like a woman with abs...a little...but I'd prefer without honestly. It just comes off as too masculine. A toned stomach is a very good healthy middle for me imo.
Toned stomach is good. There's still visible abage there. I'm good with toned.
 

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Not at all. A woman isn't masculine just because she works out and has a fit body. I completely disagree with this statement. Not that I'd mind a masculine woman. I do like me some tomboys.
If having some muscle on her is not attractive to most straight men then I just can't help but believe there is something wrong with them. A woman who takes care of her body is a very attractive thing. Their loss if they don't want that.
I didn't say a woman is masculine because she is fit. You said you want muscles. Most "fit" women are not muscular. It's not the natural state of a woman's body to build muscle, especially in the upper body, even when they work out regularly. That's why it is considered masculine when a woman has extra muscle, because those traits generally belong to men, and most straight men find that unattractive. Whether or not you disagree with it is irrelevant.


Don't know what Dreams of Desire has anything to do with this. I never said anything against it.
And clearly you haven't read my posts if you think the girls from Battle of the Bulges is what I'm after. I stated the exact opposite of that. Don't make assumptions when the facts are right there.
I meant Big Brother. My mistake. Which is what started you on "muscle girls". And clearly what you're stating is contradictory to what exists in these games. The women in 90% of these games are not average women by any standards. They are fit and athletic, but you're saying that it's the "darkest timeline" and you want a girl with muscles. So, one can only conclude that you are in fact looking for more muscle bound women than what exists in these games. Which is fine. You have every right to not like what the majority of straight men like. It just seems odd that you act like something is wrong with everyone else when you are clearly in the minority.
 

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I didn't say a woman is masculine because she is fit. You said you want muscles. Most "fit" women are not muscular. It's not the natural state of a woman's body to build muscle, especially in the upper body, even when they work out regularly. That's why it is considered masculine when a woman has extra muscle, because those traits generally belong to men, and most straight men find that unattractive. Whether or not you disagree with it is irrelevant.
I think we have different definitions of muscular. I consider a toned woman to still be muscular. Like I said, I'm not asking for roided out monsters. Just clearly noticeable defined lines on their abdomen, arms and legs.
Can I get any evidence for your statement about what most straight men like? 'Cause i'm not just gonna take your word on it.


I meant Big Brother. My mistake. Which is what started you on "muscle girls". And clearly what you're stating is contradictory to what exists in these games. The women in 90% of these games are not average women by any standards. They are fit and athletic, but you're saying that it's the "darkest timeline" and you want a girl with muscles. So, one can only conclude that you are in fact looking for more muscle bound women than what exists in these games. Which is fine. You have every right to not like what the majority of straight men like. It just seems odd that you act like something is wrong with everyone else when you are clearly in the minority.
First of all, I feel like you're taking my darkest timeline comments too seriously. I'm just messing around. Though I would prefer more fit women.
While the ladies in BB aren't bad, I wouldn't call them all that fit or athletic. I consider that average, because that looks to me like an average physique of someone who does some basic exercises just to keep in shape. I want more women like Sabia and Neve from Kingdom of Deception. Women who clearly train, but aren't as muscular as, say, wrestlers. And if those kinds of chicks aren't attractive to straight men, then yeah, I'm gonna think they're weird. I'm allowed to. It just sounds wrong to me.
Again, you're throwing around words like ''majority'' and ''minority''. Either give me scientific proof, or some kind of detailed article about it or stop talking like this is all fact. You don't know the mind of every straight man out there.
Now, if you wanna continue this pointless discussion I'll be happy to oblige, but I'd prefer we move it somewhere else so as not to spam this thread any more.
 

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Hey guys - I've been lurking around f95 for a while (under a different name) and decided to try my hand at making a game. I posted this demo on reddit last night and was actually kind of surprised to log on here tonight and see my game on here so quickly.

Thank you all for the feedback (positive and negative). Please keep both coming as I need both to get better at this. Yes, I am still very much learning EVERYTHING and doing it by myself. I started creating this about 2 weeks ago. Prior to this, I've only played games like this. I never used Daz3d or Renpy so there was a bit of a learning curve (and still is, frankly). I do hope to eventually include animation, but that is probably a few updates away, at best. I want to progress the story line a little bit more before I start to fuck with trying to animate.

I do have a vision for the story of the game and sex with Mom's friend (the lady with the saggy tits) is there for a reason and will further Taylor's relationship with Nikki, as well as give Taylor some confidence. Also, just because I said that sex won't come as easy, it doesn't mean it will be a grind or tease either. It means there won't be a girl that jumps into bed with you without you even trying in every update. In the future, it will take making some right choices and saying the right things in conversations to seduce a girl.

Stay tuned...
 

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Can I get any evidence for your statement about what most straight men like? 'Cause i'm not just gonna take your word on it.
The evidence is everywhere that porn exists. Look at almost every game on this site, you will see generally the same type of women. Look at what type of women are in the overwhelming majority of porn videos, and you have your answer. If the majority of straight men were not attracted to that type of woman, they would find women who fit the preferred type, because it wouldn't sell otherwise.
 
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The more visible muscles a woman have the more masculine they appear though. I think, most guys like wimen soft. With soft I don't mean a mountain of lard, eventhough there is that whole feeder fetish :p So there is extremes on both end of the scale. You can be fit and in shape, even though you got curves though.

There isn't really any norm though, because different parts of the world, cultures, races and ethnicity got different perception of what is nice and so on. Just settle with there is differences :p
 
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The evidence is everywhere that porn exists. Look at almost every game on this site, you will see generally the same type of women. Look at what type of women are in the overwhelming majority of porn videos, and you have your answer. If the majority of straight men were not attracted to that type of woman, they would find women who fit the preferred type, because it wouldn't sell otherwise.
I don't think that really proves anything. If anything it just means I'm a bit more picky than most people. Which I gladly admit. I am a shallow individual. Minor imperfections can often turn me off. I still play most of these games though and enjoy them. And yet you can't add me to your statistic of ''straight men don't like muscle'' because of that. Who's to say a lot of people who enjoy these games aren't just like me? They just keep quiet about it. Or maybe the vast majority are just okay with whatever they get. Average, fit, plump, whatever. But just because I prefer fit and athletic doesn't mean I don't like the rest. I'd still bang a supermodel. Most men might feel the same about muscle girls. I don't know and I don't claim to know.
I was asking for proof more along the lines of a survey or something. Which still isn't very accurate, but I'd take it. Doesn't matter.
Honestly don't even know what was the point of this conversation any more. Or why you responded. Even if you are completely correct, I would still consider it weird that men aren't attracted to fit, muscular babes. It's just such a weird thing to not be attracted to. But hey, what do I know? I think people not liking rape porn is weird. :p
Anyway, I'm too sick to be getting into long discussion like this right now. So... You're right. I'm wrong. Sorry for calling people weird. I guess I'm the weird one. Etc.
 

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The evidence is everywhere that porn exists. Look at almost every game on this site, you will see generally the same type of women. Look at what type of women are in the overwhelming majority of porn videos, and you have your answer. If the majority of straight men were not attracted to that type of woman, they would find women who fit the preferred type, because it wouldn't sell otherwise.
Yeah but porn is not reality. The danger today is kids grow up watch porn on the internet and think that is how it is. Porn is little more than make believe. The actress's in porn is not the ones you got to bed with at night (if you in a relationship, married etc).

Also if you look at history of porn and how it evolved. Porn today is more extreme and go to greater lenght than in the past. Because the viewers grew numb to watch the same shit over and over. We get feed more and more absurd shit that is so far from reality it can come.

The good thing with porn though, there is a lot of fetish's and niches. If you don't want to watch some girl get 3 dicks rammed up her ass at the same time, there is other stuff just saying. On another note, main stream porn got heavy competition from "amateure" porn a lot of the reason is people just want to see people they can identify themselfs with (I guess). Silicon breats, ass with inlays and ducklips, is not all that it cracked up to be either.
 
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