VN Ren'Py Abandoned My Virgin Bride [v0.13] [Sukebe Sensei]

[keroks]

This game is absolutely awesome dude.. Good job

 

[JoleenStar]

I didn't see any updates to the route I picked from the last version.

 

[ohhaiguize]

New update is pretty great! Not on my prefered route but that's all good (rocky road better than vanilla though so thats awesome). Some nice content, cant wait for more! Hopefully faster

 

[SeveredRealms]

just a suggestion but on the progress image i would ad something like..."(Ntr) (Romance-none Ntr) and maybe (Harem) to help define what content you added. It would help clarify the routes a little better. As it is this is gonna need a heck of a walkthrough for each path.

 

[desmosome]

This is a more western take on NTR but it's very competently written. The Curious Student route is very true to it's route title. It's all about sexual freedom and exploration for the girl, with the MC begrudgingly going along with it and getting some jealousy boners lol.

I'd imagine the other route scenarios will be fairly different in tone. The Gifted Tease being more of the classic cuckold humiliation stuff, and the Innocent path being some kind of crazy cult shit lol.

The vanilla paths for any of these versions probably deals with fending off other fucks and salvaging dicey situations, so I assume one needs to be pretty comfortable with having competition and borderline stuff to get into the vanilla path. Can't be too sure at this point though.

I, for one, am looking forward to the Gifted Tease NTR version lol.

 

[Kaidman]

What does it mean when he says he will make NTR optional? I thought that NTR was already optional depending on the ice cream thing?

the icecream thing is more like two paths from a certain personality type of the virgin bride the student path vanilla icecream path is more about her tutoring the son of her professor and getting taken advantage of while the rocky road is her and the mc exploring sexuality and exhibitionism as well as public displays

 

[desmosome]

the icecream thing is more like two paths from a certain personality type of the virgin bride the student path vanilla icecream path is more about her tutoring the son of her professor and getting taken advantage of while the rocky road is her and the mc exploring sexuality and exhibitionism as well as public displays

Oh is that how it is according to the dev?

 

[MangoMeta]

lmao to this dev apparently vanilla just = zero content. what a waste of a rewrite. there is also zero harem as well. yet there is plenty, plenty of ntr. nothing has changed, and he hasn't tried to make the game better for nonntr players either. I mean look at the genre. literally ALL the supposed vanilla, his words not mine, routes have ntr. THATS NOT VANILLA AT ALL. Sukebe_Sensei stop trying to waste vanilla players times with things that are literally not vanilla.

 

[Kaidman]

lmao to this dev apparently vanilla just = zero content. what a waste of a rewrite. there is also zero harem as well. yet there is plenty, plenty of ntr. nothing has changed, and he hasn't tried to make the game better for nonntr players either. I mean look at the genre. literally ALL the supposed vanilla, his words not mine, routes have ntr. THATS NOT VANILLA AT ALL. Sukebe_Sensei stop trying to waste vanilla players times with things that are literally not vanilla.

actually if you looked closely into things the rocky road path is more to make the wife slutty while the vanilla is to keep her innocent and both your interactions can have ntr but those are avoidable depending on your actions for instance I selected correctly and the student path rocky road had her turned on primarily for the mc rather than the ones who were hitting on her but if you do it wrong she doesn't even let you do anything with her and just goes to bed because she is tired

 

[MysteryCrabs]

I have to applaud the dev for baiting hard on this game, though I think it also disqualifies you from complaining about the rage since you seem to be going after it on purpose. I've got no interest in continuing the game, but the thread salt should be glorious.

My plans for "Curious Student: Vanilla" include a focus on Netorase

I expect you mean netori? Netorase is when the main character causes their LI to get taken with intent (with or without their LI being aware or willing).

both your interactions can have ntr but those are avoidable depending on your actions

I wouldn't call closing MC's eyes and drifting into fantasy land while everything still happens and then he is caught masturbating to what everyone thinks is someone else masturbating his "wife who is still a virgin" and then mocking him for it... as avoidable NTR. It's clear the dev is making fun of people who make that choice right from the wording of it. That's fine, but I wouldn't refer to that as "avoidable NTR" by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[Sukebe_S]

Oh is that how it is according to the dev?

Yeah, that's kind of what I'm thinking. Kaidman kind of nailed it. That said, the more I explore the story, the more I realize that my understanding of vanilla is way different from other people's understanding.

It's a good thing I don't operate an ice cream parlor.

I expect you mean netori? Netorase is when the main character causes their LI to get taken with intent (with or without their LI being aware or willing).

Oops! I think you're right. What's it called when you're getting physical with a girl in front of a guy who's also into her, and she's getting hot and the other guy is getting frustrated and jealous? Is that netori? And is netori vanilla? Pralines & cream?

I need to brush the dust off my old Japanese textbooks...

 

[Bucketbot89]

Oops! I think you're right. What's it called when you're getting physical with a girl in front of a guy who's also into her, and she's getting hot and the other guy is getting frustrated and jealous? Is that netori? And is netori vanilla? Pralines & cream?

I need to brush the dust off my old Japanese textbooks...

Netori is when the MC is the one who takes away some other dude's girl.

 

[Xypher]

What's the maledom content for this game so far?

Or it just happens in NTR only or in other route?

 

[desmosome]

Yeah, that's kind of what I'm thinking. Kaidman kind of nailed it. That said, the more I explore the story, the more I realize that my understanding of vanilla is way different from other people's understanding.

It's a good thing I don't operate an ice cream parlor.



Oops! I think you're right. What's it called when you're getting physical with a girl in front of a guy who's also into her, and she's getting hot and the other guy is getting frustrated and jealous? Is that netori? And is netori vanilla? Pralines & cream?

I need to brush the dust off my old Japanese textbooks...

Alright. You might want to do some brainstorming before going further into development. There are at least 6 fully separate routes already. If you further divide each of those paths into various NTR/non-NTR/harem sub routes, I can see things getting out of hand very fast.

It's already extremely ambitious in scope I think. Personally... I say just merge the two ice cream flavors if you want to keep the fluid nature of the NTR/harem/love choices that is present already. The other option is to just make vanilla flavor exclusively non-NTR and the chocolate a fully NTR route. Just some thoughts for you to consider. Good luck.

 

[MysteryCrabs]

Oops! I think you're right. What's it called when you're getting physical with a girl in front of a guy who's also into her, and she's getting hot and the other guy is getting frustrated and jealous? Is that netori? And is netori vanilla? Pralines & cream?

I need to brush the dust off my old Japanese textbooks...

Netori is just netorare from a different perspective. Netoru (netori is the noun) is "to take (via sex)" and netorareru (netorare noun form) is "to have/be taken (via sex). Netoraseru (you get the picture) is "to cause to have taken (via sex)". They are all just forms of the same verb, netoru. In no case is NTR (which is just short for NeToRu) vanilla, but as power dynamics go, from the perspective of the POV character, netori is considered dominant/active, netorare is considered submissive/passive (of note, netorare is used both from the perspective of the person being "taken from" and the one being "taken"). Just like corruption is not vanilla, but there are different connotations from the player being active in the corruption versus passive.

I don't think in any sense you are approaching vanilla, and it doesn't really fit into the setting you have. But you certainly could pull a "power" dynamics aspect, which is what 3Diddley was trying to do with WD originally.

 

[Sukebe_S]

Netori is just netorare from a different perspective. Netoru (netori is the noun) is "to take (via sex)" and netorareru (netorare noun form) is "to have/be taken (via sex). Netoraseru (you get the picture) is "to cause to have taken (via sex)". They are all just forms of the same verb, netoru. In no case is NTR (which is just short for NeToRu) vanilla, but as power dynamics go, from the perspective of the POV character, netori is considered dominant/active, netorare is considered submissive/passive (of note, netorare is used both from the perspective of the person being "taken from" and the one being "taken"). Just like corruption is not vanilla, but there are different connotations from the player being active in the corruption versus passive.

I don't think in any sense you are approaching vanilla, and it doesn't really fit into the setting you have. But you certainly could pull a "power" dynamics aspect, which is what 3Diddley was trying to do with WD originally.

Sugoi! You dropping some hardcore knowledge here. I should confer the title of "Sensei" to you, and just go by "Sukebe" from here on out. Thanks for helping me better understand. I might send you a message later with some more questions on terminology (it's going to come up in the dialogue in one of the storylines).

Netori is when the MC is the one who takes away some other dude's girl.

Is there a term for... not "some other dude's girl," per se, but a girl who the other dude is interested in (like pining for)? Is that the same thing?

 

[diebesgrab]

I just want to poke my head in and say, as an NTR fan, that I feel like NTR is better when there’s at least an illusion that it might not happen, and especially when the one being stolen genuinely cares about the player character, but is stolen anyway; so regardless of how you decide to handle “non-NTR” going forward, I feel like including at least some hints of it even on at least some of the NTR paths would really elevate the situation. At least, I would certainly prefer it over a simple one-sided crush being taken away.

I’ll also confirm the explanations of various NTR terminology you’ve been getting so far in this thread, as a longtime casual student of Japanese and a longtime serious student of Japanese porn.

 

[MysteryCrabs]

Is there a term for... not "some other dude's girl," per se, but a girl who the other dude is interested in (like pining for)? Is that the same thing?

Not really? For NTR the two don't need to be a couple, but there should be a degree of mutual affection between the two (either on the verge of a relationship or close family members... no I don't mean incest), and the third party takes one. If there's none of that, it's just... jealousy? Indeed, in a number of "netori" oriented stories, the "taker" has unrequited love for the "taken" and once he/she finds a love interest, the "taker" moves in out of jealousy.

 

[diebesgrab]

Is there a term for... not "some other dude's girl," per se, but a girl who the other dude is interested in (like pining for)? Is that the same thing?

Oh, and I forgot I wanted to reply to this. There’s nothing I know of specific to that situation, though if it receives sufficient focus it does still fall under netorare/netori (depending on perspective). It’s common enough in netorare, though I don’t think I’ve ever seen a netori story where the one being cucked only has a crush on the one being stolen.

 

[CrimsonDevil]

Is the NTR avoidable?