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Which thread should be updated next? (You can vote for two choices.)

  • Innocent Angel: Vanilla

    Votes: 25 16.9%
  • Innocent Angel: Rocky Road

    Votes: 48 32.4%
  • Curious Student: Vanilla

    Votes: 18 12.2%
  • Curious Student: Rocky Road

    Votes: 59 39.9%
  • Gifted Tease: Vanilla

    Votes: 16 10.8%
  • Gifted Tease: Rocky Road

    Votes: 65 43.9%

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EZ8lt

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Yay, yet another NTR landmine cuckfest that wasn't properly tagged before I tried it. Shota, old man, and who knows what else, while the MC is a typical loser, and the girl of course and oblivious and yet inner slutty type. The story couldn't get any more Japanese hentai than it is already, instead of the plain stupid netorare, it's the overly convoluted version that tries to be smart while actually it's dumb as hell. I'm sure somewhere along the road, token black guy will reappear to have an unavoidable event, that's how twisty it's gonna be. The system is also plunges you towards to this, be a suck up and shut your fucking mouth, so you can get mild rewards while everyone else will take the goods in front of your eyes. Revolutionary.

Ps.: If someone comes to me with the "you don't like NTR just avoid it" argument, well, I would've done it, if it was tagged properly before I tried it, which wasn't the case.
 

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Yay, yet another NTR landmine cuckfest that wasn't properly tagged before I tried it. Shota, old man, and who knows what else, while the MC is a typical loser, and the girl of course and oblivious and yet inner slutty type. The story couldn't get any more Japanese hentai than it is already, instead of the plain stupid netorare, it's the overly convoluted version that tries to be smart while actually it's dumb as hell. I'm sure somewhere along the road, token black guy will reappear to have an unavoidable event, that's how twisty it's gonna be. The system is also plunges you towards to this, be a suck up and shut your fucking mouth, so you can get mild rewards while everyone else will take the goods in front of your eyes. Revolutionary.

Ps.: If someone comes to me with the "you don't like NTR just avoid it" argument, well, I would've done it, if it was tagged properly before I tried it, which wasn't the case.
So it's kind of Erodio, i like that game, but in the NTR path they become sluts but in the love path they don't give anything because they are not ready.

kinda like that?
 
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EZ8lt

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So it's kind of Erodio, i like that game, but in the NTR path they become sluts but in the love path they don't give anything because they are not ready.

kind of that?
In Erodio, you have a choice to be cucked or not. Here, it doesn't matter which options you choose, all roads shows towards to a cuckfest. Plus in that game you do actually get some sex scenes (hunter girl) even if you're on the love route.
 

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In Erodio, you have a choice to be cucked or not. Here, it doesn't matter which options you choose, all roads shows towards to a cuckfest. Plus in that game you do actually get some sex scenes (hunter girl) even if you're on the love route.
Well thank you for taking the hit, it's a game that i'm going to avoid.
 

Sun Quan

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Within each story thread will be two flavors--one is a little bland, but enjoyable, and the other is something wild, unpredictable, and very fast-moving.
Why not just make the whole game a NTR / cuckold game and get rid of the idea of a vanilla route? It's pretty clear from your own description that's what you're interested in and thus going to spend the majority of your time developing. It sounds like the other path is just being thrown in in a weak attempt for more mass appeal. Honestly, who wants to play something that's "a little bland"?
 

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Great game so far, can't wait for the next update. Also if you have Patreon page please write, so i can support you. :)
 
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Good to see somebody having another go at this one, the writing is very effective I think (seconding Milos on the patreon thing btw - appreciate you might not want to set one up but if this goes anywhere I'll contribute, plus help spell check or whatever, not like you need it). Minor point on the renders though - maybe it's just me but sometimes she looks like she's looking away from the player while talking to them.

You're being ambitious with so many branching paths so soon - what are your plans for player choice over the course of the game? Personally I think you should go for a handful of "major" choices over the course of the story (like the "personality" and "ice cream" choices in ch.1, but at most 1 per chapter) that send you down certain plot lines, and the other choices would just add flavour to what you see and unlock certain scenes but don't change the story line (e.g if she likes you she'll say x, if she doesn't she'll say y, story continues either way). It looks like that's what you're doing but just asking.

I suppose the other way of managing the problem of having lots of player choice without ending up with too many plotlines is having "early" or "bad" ends, though you don't see that much anymore.

Btw, would you be willing to share the name of the assets you use for the main female character? Again appreciate it if you don't want to! (Full disclosure - I actually had a good think about reviving this game myself but could never find the assets and basically didn't have the time to write 3 thousand lines of code each month).
 
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fabulous007

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Wifey Dilemma was rather fun before being abandonned, so if it's like its spiritual successor I'll keep an eye to it.
The girl is cute, you really want to corrupt her ahah. Still, I hope even while doing so they'll be way for mc to enjoy himself too and not just be humiliated. Like a sharing path. But if that's not the plan it's okay too. Cute asians are rare in 3D porn games.
 
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Sukebe_S

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Will this have a walk through?
Maybe later! Right now, there's not too many choices, so it shouldn't be too difficult to find your way to the various endings of Day 1.

Twelve endings... Whoa! I hope you don't create too many paths, or else, you could end in a mess. Good luck, though. I haven't tried it yet.
I'm sure it'll be a mess! But hopefully a hot mess. And a fun one.

That's a lot of tags for something that got uploaded today. How much content does this have?
Yeah, sorry about that. I revised the "genre" section to reflect what's currently there (or fantasized about, or spoken about in dialogue) and also show what I'm planning on putting in.

ok so I gotta ask... is there gonna be a route where we get to keep Momo for ourselves? the mild groping on day 1 aside.. it looks like its a forced NTR in every option so far..
if this is the the main aspect of the game then this is where I stop watching this :unsure:

edit: not to mention why is MC such a beta in all routes? even if he is a virgin he has power over Momo since he can file for a divorce whenever he wants and she will be sent back home.. as for him going to jail? its a lot harder to prove its a fake marriage then it is to say it simply didnt work out...
I don't have the end game all fleshed out yet, but there's many possible endings on the table! I'm interested in jealousy and competition for girls. Sometimes that means the triumph of victory, and other times the agony of defeat. And it also means antagonists do things the protagonist (and by extension the audience) don't like.

As for the MC being a beta, yep. He's currently a perfect gentleman who would never leverage power over a lady in need. He's got some life-lessons in his near future. I'm more interested in seeing him grow as a character than in him starting out a fully-fledged alpha.

Why not just make the whole game a NTR / cuckold game and get rid of the idea of a vanilla route? It's pretty clear from your own description that's what you're interested in and thus going to spend the majority of your time developing. It sounds like the other path is just being thrown in in a weak attempt for more mass appeal. Honestly, who wants to play something that's "a little bland"?
I see the Vanilla routes as being more straightforward competition for and seduction of a girl. The Rocky Road will be pedal-to-the-metal toward various kinds of bonkers corruption. As an ice cream connoisseur, I find I enjoy both flavors depending on my mood.

In some parts of the world, there is something even blander than vanilla: "milk-flavored ice cream." I don't waste my time with that, but I'm glad it exists for those who enjoy it. :)
 

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Hey Sukebe_Sensei,

I am glad that you try to revive spirit of Wifey's Dilemma, will try this game for sure.
One word or advice - maybe you should include high heels ( even if there will be boots or sandals or sample shoes) in the way how the girls are spending their life in this world - if this is already planned, apologize if I asked - ;somehow, they will show more sensuality. Also another thing that could show sensuality would be the way they dress - some materials like leather, satin, latex etc won't hurt for sure. ;)
All the best with the game!
 

Arthoneceron

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Okay, played. Pretty cool, but needs lot of work.

First of all: If you're trying to make a game where decisions have weight on the story, make them less obvious. The "make this or she will be a slut" or "make that and she will be your slut" is cool for orientation, but it's not something that people usually do.

The second point is pretty basic: The multi-path stuff is pretty cool on the paper, but that also means that you will have three times more work to deliver an update. On that point, the ideal is to make one main path and make some changes here and there to save your time on the rendering. As someone which is developing his own project, this kind of stuff is really a pain in the ass.

Well, since your game from what I heard is an spiritual successor for an abandoned project, I wish you good luck on it, and I reccomend you to make your own patreon to make the people interesting on your story to support. As I said before, I'm not someone that's fond on the netorare, but the character is beautiful enough and the premise is good to be followed.
 
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Sukebe_S

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Great game so far, can't wait for the next update. Also if you have Patreon page please write, so i can support you. :)
Thanks! I don't have a Patreon page...should I set one up? Is it hard to set one up? If the game is successful, will it screw up my tax bracket? I still have much to learn...

But a main concern is that, if I set up a Patreon system, then I'm on the hook for deadlines and updates... right? I have a real life job (which is on hiatus at the moment because of the coronavirus pandemic), but if shit gets crazy busy again, I'm gonna have to put MVB on the back burner.

So I'm thinking about it. I might start a patreon account...I'd love to hear from other developers who have experience with it.

Good to see somebody having another go at this one, the writing is very effective I think (seconding Milos on the patreon thing btw - appreciate you might not want to set one up but if this goes anywhere I'll contribute, plus help spell check or whatever, not like you need it). Minor point on the renders though - maybe it's just me but sometimes she looks like she's looking away from the player while talking to them.
Thanks! And yeah...the intricacies of DAZ renders are something I'm still working out. Getting the characters looking at each other and looking at the MC hasn't been as easy as I thought. There's a cool trick I found out about setting up a "camera" as the viewpoint in DAZ, and then programming the models to look at that, but it doesn't always work too well... I hope to revise much of the images before moving on to Day 2. Thanks for the great feedback, though!

You're being ambitious with so many branching paths so soon - what are your plans for player choice over the course of the game? Personally I think you should go for a handful of "major" choices over the course of the story (like the "personality" and "ice cream" choices in ch.1, but at most 1 per chapter) that send you down certain plot lines, and the other choices would just add flavour to what you see and unlock certain scenes but don't change the story line (e.g if she likes you she'll say x, if she doesn't she'll say y, story continues either way). It looks like that's what you're doing but just asking.

I suppose the other way of managing the problem of having lots of player choice without ending up with too many plotlines is having "early" or "bad" ends, though you don't see that much anymore.
Yeah, that's kind of what I have in mind. Originally, the plan was just to continue what 3Diddly was doing, but in trying to do that, I discovered I couldn't figure out what his plans were. He had love-points, fidelity-points, slut-points, personality types...so many factors and variables. I'm new to Renpy, and I knew I wasn't ready to tackle something so complicated. So I got to thinking, "well, if it were up to me, I'd just do it this way." And then I remembered that it kind of is up to me! So I decided to keep his premise and use his inspirational DAZ model, but radically break from most of what else he was doing.

Basically, what I'm envisioning are three different personalities, and two threads for each personality--vanilla or rocky road. Depending on how the bride feels about you (raw love points), you can get various daily experiences and an ending that the MC is either happy or unhappy with. So, it's basically going to be six VNs with a total of 12 endings. Maybe too much, but it's a simple enough design that I should be able to follow it through.

I've thought of doing the whole "days of the week, with a time cycle for each day, and a map you can click on to go certain places, and you need money and inventory," but like I said, I don't know Renpy very well. And sometimes those can get a little grindy. So this is gonna be expansive, but probably fairly simple.

The upshot is that we should get to see the bride lose her virginity in multiple exciting ways! (Well, I hope they're exciting...)

Btw, would you be willing to share the name of the assets you use for the main female character? Again appreciate it if you don't want to! (Full disclosure - I actually had a good think about reviving this game myself but could never find the assets and basically didn't have the time to write 3 thousand lines of code each month).
Not a problem! Her name is "Chihiro" for G3F. Here's a link to the discussion thread where a genius named Papa Ernie helped figure out most of the key assets:

https://f95zone.to/threads/trying-to-remake-wifey-character-but-cant-find-the-assets.47150/

If there's any other specific assets you're curious about, let me know.

If you could find the time to revive the game in your own way, or push it in a new direction, I'd love to see it. Or if you have DAZ skill and want to just throw together some renders, that'd be awesome too. I'm still not tired of looking at her...:love:

Yet it doesn't have a tag for virgin...:unsure:
Yeah! I tried to add the tag, but I'm too stupid to figure out how to do it... I need to call F95Zone tech support....
 
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