Ren'Py Mythic Manor [v0.21] [Jikei]

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Cierne said:
I am with you, I don't like any of the side girls and find them a massive waste of time and space - they bloat the game.
Of course, there is a group that like them - or at least there were, when last I brought up that the sidegirls are going to mess it all up.
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Yeah I'm one of those people, from the household I kinda like the skinny girls (the homeless one and the skinny one with normal human tits) but Velle, Esther, Nefari, they don't really do anything for me, I don't progress their stories either unless it's necessary.

I like Paige from the gym and that larger woman with the grey hair (sorry I'm shit with names - I tried to look up the names on the official website but that's hopelessly out of date, apparently). Also the horny older Japanese hostess was a huge turn on for me somehow. Then there's the elf girl and the two tanning girls at the beach. I hope all these characters will get content sooner than any of the main girls to be honest.

Having said that I completely understand why people prefer more focus (i.e. content) for fewer characters. There's also a bunch of girls that just got an introduction and that's it. More games suffer from this 'feature creep' (I'm sure there's a porn-game-equivalent for that word lol), Lucky Paradox springs to mind.
 
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Absolute_Icon said:
Yeah I'm one of those people, from the household I kinda like the skinny girls (the homeless one and the skinny one with normal human tits) but Velle, Esther, Nefari, they don't really do anything for me, I don't progress their stories either unless it's necessary.
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It's kinda funny to me that you remembered the names of the ones you don't like, but not the ones you like. :KEK:

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Having said that I completely understand why people prefer more focus (i.e. content) for fewer characters. There's also a bunch of girls that just got an introduction and that's it. More games suffer from this 'feature creep' (I'm sure there's a porn-game-equivalent for that word lol), Lucky Paradox springs to mind.
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Don't know if there's a better word for it, I just call it feature creep. It's one of the downsides of not having an editor, producer or something similar: the creator is free to run with whatever crazy ideas pop in his head. See Star Citizen for a really high-profile example, anyone thinking that game is gonna actually release someday is deluding themselves.

And MM is on the fast track to becoming one of those.
 
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Absolute_Icon said:
Yeah I'm one of those people, from the household I kinda like the skinny girls (the homeless one and the skinny one with normal human tits) but Velle, Esther, Nefari, they don't really do anything for me, I don't progress their stories either unless it's necessary.

I like Paige from the gym and that larger woman with the grey hair (sorry I'm shit with names - I tried to look up the names on the official website but that's hopelessly out of date, apparently). Also the horny older Japanese hostess was a huge turn on for me somehow. Then there's the elf girl and the two tanning girls at the beach. I hope all these characters will get content sooner than any of the main girls to be honest.

Having said that I completely understand why people prefer more focus (i.e. content) for fewer characters. There's also a bunch of girls that just got an introduction and that's it. More games suffer from this 'feature creep' (I'm sure there's a porn-game-equivalent for that word lol), Lucky Paradox springs to mind.
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That's really the issue with games like that. When you have multiple characters, every character will be *somebody's* favorite. So every time you release an update, and in that update not every character gets some new content, somebody will be disappointed. There are only three potential ways to make your audience happy in this situation:

1) Keep the character roster small and therefore manageable, which makes it less likely for too many people to be disappointed at once (MM already failed at that, with the amount of side-girls);
2) Make sure that every update has something for every character (again, falied);
3) Make updates small, but frequent, so that people don't even start questioning if the game is abandoned (failed yet again);

And before anybody starts that discussion again (particularly with point 3) - it's possible to work on big events in the background, while still releasing small updates along the way.
 
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That's really the issue with games like that. When you have multiple characters, every character will be *somebody's* favorite. So every time you release an update, and in that update not every character gets some new content, somebody will be disappointed. There are only three potential ways to make your audience happy in this situation:

1) Keep the character roster small and therefore manageable, which makes it less likely for too many people to be disappointed at once (MM already failed at that, with the amount of side-girls);
2) Make sure that every update has something for every character (again, falied);
3) Make updates small, but frequent, so that people don't even start questioning if the game is abandoned (failed yet again);

And before anybody starts that discussion again (particularly with point 3) - it's possible to work on big events in the background, while still releasing small updates along the way.
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everytime they make a game like this, and you see them starting to add 10+ girls, you know it will end this way, its same with so many other games, why cant he just do, i dont know, 5-10 events focused on a girl, release, and then work 5-10 on the next?

maybe do a couple of events to 5 of them, 2 main girls, and 3 side girls(or 1 event for 6 girls).
 
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These generic, meaningless update posts are always hilarious. Why is it always the same story with the successful devs? I mean, aside from the free money of course.

Edit: Almost a year and none of the girls I'm interested in. Ah well, maybe June 2024 will pay off.
 
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Damn, looking back at it. This game looks outdated as hell.
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5 years is a long time in a game's development cycle. That's the drawback to games that take a long time: when they finally finish they can feel lacking in a lot of ways. It's actually why I appreciate reworks that are graphically-focused. If a game takes so long, it almost demands some type of rendering update just to stay current. There are some (I include myself) who don't care all that much — I'm much more into an overarching story and character development — but it's still a big issue for long-term games. When, for example, The Last Guardian finally released back in 2016 I loved playing it, but if I'm honest it already looked somewhat dated upon release.
 
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5 years is a long time in a game's development cycle. That's the drawback to games that take a long time: when they finally finish they can feel lacking in a lot of ways. It's actually why I appreciate reworks that are graphically-focused. If a game takes so long, it almost demands some type of rendering update just to stay current. There are some (I include myself) who don't care all that much — I'm much more into an overarching story and character development — but it's still a big issue for long-term games. When, for example, The Last Guardian finally released back in 2016 I loved playing it, but if I'm honest it already looked somewhat dated upon release.
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The exact same reason why i actually appreciate the Tech Update in Summertime Saga.
 
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Motoko Kusanagi said:
$59,791 Fucking absurd how much that game makes on patreon alone. On topic, I boggles my mind on how Mythic Manor used to get updates every 2-3 months with hour long content drops. I have a sneaky suspicion that this update will not reflect 10 months of work.
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Yeah, I worry you're right. Those earnings don't necessarily reflect someone living high on the hog or anything, of course. They have a team, although I have no idea how many are on it. If there were 10 developers, that's $10k/month/team member (not accounting for Patreon taking their share, ofc). But if they also live somewhere expensive, that becomes worth a lot less. Let's say they lived in San Francisco. The average earnings there are around $90k/year, so typical earnings are $7500/month. This game would therefore pull in 80% of the average income there for each team member each month. That means you have to cut things in order just to survive with local cost of living.

All of this said, however, I highly doubt any (or certainly not all) of them live somewhere that expensive, and there very likely aren't 10 people on the team. Additionally, if there were 10 people on the team, I would expect far more progress and more frequent updates, especially when you have single-developer games that have both. In summary, it feels like any way you slice it this isn't doing nearly as well as it probably should be. But since I have no idea what individuals are going through (they might all still work full-time jobs and so have limited time, for instance), it's hard to judge with any real reliability.
 
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