- May 25, 2020
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I'm not actually entirely sure it's supposed to be as random as it seems, I think it's just bugged. I've been playing easy-mode, and decided to try non-easy mode just to see if that's a cause. After restarting I'm on a play-through where the scenes seem to unlock pretty much in order, based around Kanas submission. The story actually kinda flows.
That said, I still had one bathtub-scene randomly show up (no where near where that makes sense, shes getting groped and kissed. She's NOT going to take a bath with Lawrence at this point). During that day she didn't do anything weird, and Lawrence was out of town. I un-toggled the switch (switch nr 996) for it in MTool, so it's not in the gallery and reloaded, played the same day pretty much the same way. No random bathtub scene unlocked. Fucking janky.
Either something got fucked in the translation that causes these wonky unlock-errors, or the dev fucked something when it got coded. I haven't played the original version, just this translated one so I can't say.
Anyways, I agree with you, the game would be so much better if the scenes actually just flowed. The corruption has to happen gradually, you can't just go "Chapter 1: Meet the Gang. Kana and Tsukasa are in love. Kana seem upset, and Law seem sus." straight to "Chapter 7: Kana is having difficulties saying no, and therefore lets Lawrence strap vibrators on her and fingerbang her in a public setting!"
This was me when that happened:
I would have much rather it just be straight linear, where the submissive stat is in tiers that sets the scenes you can get and then just use a knock-out system so you see all of them before it goes up a tier.
Basically just Tier 1: "Kana slaps Lawrence because he keeps trying to grope her", Tier 4: "ANAL BABY!!", Tier 10: "It involves a rocket, a saxophone, a peg-leg and the C-list performers of cirque de soleil" and so on.
Agreed. It's just such a weird design-choice. Fine if MC doesn't know, it's even fine if the player doesn't know at all until the end, but at least show what the fuck happened as scenes in the end-gallery or something. I think I know what happened, but guessing instead of being SHOWN what happened is just not good enough, IMO. If you wanna tell a story about a girl getting corrupted to Slutsville - Population: Kana, you may want to start at the beginning: Why did she let him get away with so much BS in the first place???
I want to know what that message Lawrence sent her at the start was, how he worded it and her responses. I want to see the scene at the start where MC meets Lawrence and Kana at the Ramen-shop, and Kana is upset.
Or maybe all that is already in the game, but it's janky so I haven't gotten to see those scenes and instead got "Vibro Gal 9000" and "Bathtub Girl 2: Electric Bogaloo".
- Dec 6, 2022
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have you guys ever begin anything by asking yourself first why, why you do this and that.
and about the beginning of kana's corruption is pretty much what another user here described, lawrence gets hint from mayor of kana backstory that related to the core of the whole ghostbuster business and he used it to blackmail her to do his bidding. and its revealed if you do the true ending.
i get what you trying to say there, but if the dev went with what describe there the story wouldnt give the free-action vibe and there will be lot less Cgs, unless they do it like having multiple route or something which means extra works in the system and player will just kinda skip skip skip to progress the story and get the Cgs. doesnt it makes the game like almost any other game ?, throw the plot to the bin, skip skip skip - smashing Z on all meaningless 'battle' - end of story.
and about the beginning of kana's corruption is pretty much what another user here described, lawrence gets hint from mayor of kana backstory that related to the core of the whole ghostbuster business and he used it to blackmail her to do his bidding. and its revealed if you do the true ending.
It does... kinda... you get 1 additional position for your nightly sexy time with her.
He and Ria (the dream succubus) explain this... with "dream" logic.
The part that he does know and remember is catching them during the daytime investigations. But at first it's hands on kissing and harassment. If you are actively trying to watch out for her, it shouldn't get much further beyond that in a True End playthrough, though you do tend to have to pretty much act like a stalker to do that.
As for why the MC lets even the basic harassment go? Well, that's a conversation about Japanese and... other large nearby country's culture and objectification of women. (Though there is a slow change away from that... very slow) understanding these basic ideas add more context to the MC:
1. Women are discouraged to raise a fuss, and often told to "deal" with it, unless they can prove it... and even then, there's pressure of retaliation and its made very clear that "you are choosing to press charges" with the implied "are you willing to ruin a man's career for this?"
2. Don't cause trouble for your "seniors/senpais".
Being outspoken or standing up for something can get you labeled as a troublemaker and given all the crappy jobs, or even fired and blacklisted. In Japan you can be sued for exposing infidelity, with irrefutable evidence, because you shamed an older member of society.
The MC already talks about how he caused trouble for his boss, and got this reassignment, so he's already put himself in a precarious position. And then it's told that Lawrence is his boss's boss's Boss.
I'm not saying any of this is right or should be permitted IRL, but it shapes the cultural mindset of this and many other NTR games that we westerners can't quite grasp.
Yeah, that's fair. The dev had something they were going for, I'm not complaining about that. I'm complaining about the result I'm playing, where scenes are getting unlocked in a janky order that make no sense. Again, I don't know if it's the translation fucking something or not.
No, there wouldn't have to have less CGs. All I'm saying is the game should have a better way of picking what scenes that gets unlocked instead of just RNG where shit gets unlocked randomly regardless where the characters are in the story-arc. That fucks with plausibility. At the beginning, if Kana hates Lawrences guts (reasonable!) because he fondles her when out on a job, then there is no fucking way she instantly after that job gets in a bathtub with Lawrence at his house. Nor will she let him fingerbang her and strap vibrators on her in a public setting. I've had that happen, and it is just jarring because it's so random.
Okay, but is that so bad? Skipping aside, I don't, but I'm sure people are skipping shit no matter what system is in place, the current one included, so that's not even a valid point.
If the story would go linearly then her corruption would make sense simply by showing shit in order instead of "Kana gets fondled in a closet. Tsukasa interrupts, and she's understandably mad as hell at Lawrence because he's a fucking creep" --> Back in town 30 minutes later. "Kana had a rough day because Lawrence tried to fondle her. Therefore she gets in a bathtub with him immediately after!".
Like dude, the Dev tried a non-standard system for unlocking stuff, good for them. I don't mind that, except that subjectively I don't think it was an improvement. The RNG, where scenes unlock before they are plausible, when telling the story about her gradual corruption makes no sense at all. The dev has even placed scenes in the gallery in a reasonable order, where more extreme scenes are placed further down, as if they are supposed to "kinda" unlock in a certain order. I don't think the janky unlock orders are intended.
That's also why I said that I don't know if the system works like it's supposed to, or if it got fucked in the translation.
I personally would've much rather had a system like Curse of Kubel, where the corruption gets told in a semblance of order instead of being jarring AF in how random it is. Formulaic? Sure, but formulas exist for a reason.
If you wanted that to be open-world like this game, then just set it by Submission, Sub = Y:
Sub: Y-a<Y<Y+a --> "X number of scenes can occur around the town, depending on where tf Kana randomly goes and what MC does about it, that fit narratively with where Kana is in her story arc"
at Sub > (Y+a) --> "These scenes can no longer occur (to bad if you missed something), and instead Z number of more explicit scenes are gonna happen around town."
Cool. Then I'm fine with that part, as long as it does get told. I haven't gotten that far on the True story, because I'm playing the NTR-path.
Well I honestly can understand your frustration with the this game but honestly at least it deserves to called a game (so, not just a VN with extra steps like 99.9% of all other porn games ).
The game has a lot of good mechanics but they all could need a lot more polish. Also I am pretty sure you could fit easily 50% more scene to make corruption more gradual.
But given that the developer delayed the release 3 time and cut content (in JP base game Kana could get pregnant but that went no where, bar content, a residue system which got cut, maybe some stuff more to do on the weekend(one npc hint about a secret onsen in the mountains) ) it is no wonder that we end up a diamond in the rough
The game has a lot of good mechanics but they all could need a lot more polish. Also I am pretty sure you could fit easily 50% more scene to make corruption more gradual.
But given that the developer delayed the release 3 time and cut content (in JP base game Kana could get pregnant but that went no where, bar content, a residue system which got cut, maybe some stuff more to do on the weekend(one npc hint about a secret onsen in the mountains) ) it is no wonder that we end up a diamond in the rough
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I just want to chime in and say that in my attempted pure run, where I only let Kana get taken twice in the evening, included this bath scene. First scene I got was a blowjob in the park toilets and the second was the bath tub scene you describe. I was also very surprised by that but kept playing anyway.
The bathtub scene is just paced completely weird. It's one of the possible results of Kana tripping and Lawrence "helps" her fix herself by having her take a bath at his house. Generally, all of the early town harassment scenes are much more intense that what she would normally allow in the dungeon.
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- Dec 6, 2022
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about the formula. see where the developer team from. you may get hint of where they get their refereces from. basically, RNG + lots variety outcome = fun.
dont blame them, the market speak for itself. it sells.
Kana can still get pregnant. It just slightly changes the non-ntr endings, based on who got her pregnant.
- Apr 24, 2018
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Turn on lighting features in the options menu. If you turn it off, the game will always be super bright.
Color me suprised. That would not happen for me in the 3 playthroughs in the english 1.1 version. I thought it was removed or bugged
It checks a (semen vol in ml)/1000 chance every night of the first ten days of each month for pregnancy for both the protag's and Lawrence's semen in her vagina, with Lawrence's semen getting a chance first. It's a very low chance even if you are pumping her full everyday, especially since she loses semen volume everytime she takes a bath.
Interting, it was super easy to achive in the japanese version. Maybe it was tweaked.
Can anyone tell with wether this is Kana/FMC or not? Going through pure love route currently and kinda panicked..
Really though? That hair look liked her but if it's not then thanks god, since this the only one appear on Twitter/Dwitter
- Jun 8, 2017
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It isnt
There is a girl L talks to early on in the game, apparently that is her, and that is basically just to establish his pattern of bragging about his conquests on social media.