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zeno1000

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The secret that L has on Kana is that she's the daughter of the head family that caused the massive ghost incident here in the first place. This is a pretty big deal when she's literally in a town full of victims from said incident that might just choose to lynch her if they find out the truth... even if she was just a child when the incident happened so she's not really responsible for anything. More importantly on a personal level for Kana, the MC is also a victim of the incident. He lost his parents to the incident, his childhood friend before it, and even his memory about most of his childhood. So Kana was rightfully terrified that he'd hate her for what her family took from him, which is a common enough story, even if an irrational one.

Of course, once MC DOES find out the truth, he doesn't hate her for it, and depending on how much abuse Kana's been subjected too up to that point, she ends up crying in his arms about how stupid she'd been not to trust him. Then they turn the blackmail around on L, because the police won't care about the content of his blackmail, or who's son he is, just that he's blackmailing someone, which can obviously get him thrown in jail etc.


As for why MC decided to become an exorcist... it's because of the incident in this very town, which took so much from him, even if he doesn't remember exactly how much he's lost and all that. Well, that and if I remember right, he just wants to help people yada yada and he has the power for it.
ahhh so thats the reason thank you, i never think it is the reason for the ntr.. that's a worse reason to be blackmailed than got caught holding hand with boyfriend in hentai manga. never ever think that is the reason for ntr in modern society. wow just simple wow.

and for MC, ahh i know his past but he joins just for helping ppl that doesn't care about him hahahaha (none of the citizen remember his name or have a little bit of respect to him lol) , the funniest thing ever and he dares to ask salary to mayor n L, he should be ashame and deserve the NTR hahahaha. it is a shame there is no 3some NTR with mayor while he hearing outside the room. hero not allowed to have salary hahaha
 

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ahhh so thats the reason thank you, i never think it is the reason for the ntr.. that's a worse reason to be blackmailed than got caught holding hand with boyfriend in hentai manga. never ever think that is the reason for ntr in modern society. wow just simple wow.

and for MC, ahh i know his past but he joins just for helping ppl that doesn't care about him hahahaha (none of the citizen remember his name or have a little bit of respect to him lol) , the funniest thing ever and he dares to ask salary to mayor n L, he should be ashame and deserve the NTR hahahaha. it is a shame there is no 3some NTR with mayor while he hearing outside the room. hero not allowed to have salary hahaha
How is that worse? People have been shanked for what their parents did all throughout history. People get blamed, ostracized and persecuted and so on for who their parents are all over the world. For that town, Kana's parents might as well have been the local equivalent of war criminals. People can and have broken relationships for a lot less than her history, no matter how irrational it may seem. You clearly have no idea how screwed up people are. Don't forget that we live in a world where people hate other people for their skin color and no good reason. Hating someone for the crimes committed by their parents is small potatoes, it happens all the time and for far smaller things.

If anything, this is by far one of the best reasons to give in to blackmail that I've seen in a NTR game... What you're saying is making no sense.

Also... uh... I'm not sure what the mayor has to do with anything? As for the salary thing, that's just L being an asshole. See "intentionally being incompetent to screw them over" as mentioned above. But I still have no idea what the mayor has to do with absolutely anything.

Lastly, what are you talking about. The citizens do respect the MC for what he and Kana achieve. He gets free bandages from the pharmacy places, free entry to the gym, discounts for the cinema and onsen from what I remember. Depending on side-quest progress, the MC and Kana are gifted a house to live in while they're there. The town absolutely respects him. So dunno what you're on about here...
 

herpaderpderp

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This may be a bit of a stupid question, but how exactly does Kana move through dungeons? Is she always in the same position as you? Doesn't feel like it. Is she trying to follow you but can't? Is there a way for me to tell where she is? The game says you should defeat ghosts to help her, but again that doesn't feel like it does much of anything.
I feel cheap using that orb near the boss door because she only reached the boss by herself like once or twice in a dozen missions.
 

S3vatari0n

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This may be a bit of a stupid question, but how exactly does Kana move through dungeons? Is she always in the same position as you? Doesn't feel like it. Is she trying to follow you but can't? Is there a way for me to tell where she is? The game says you should defeat ghosts to help her, but again that doesn't feel like it does much of anything.
I feel cheap using that orb near the boss door because she only reached the boss by herself like once or twice in a dozen missions.
Its different for each dungeon. In the first dungeon, she goes through the unlocked doors. If there's more than one path, I think she'll randomly choose one. In the Hospital, Kana will follow the red carpet. In the Church, she will follow the path with the lit torches, unless there is no lit torch, where she will pick a random forward direction.
 
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This may be a bit of a stupid question, but how exactly does Kana move through dungeons? Is she always in the same position as you? Doesn't feel like it. Is she trying to follow you but can't? Is there a way for me to tell where she is? The game says you should defeat ghosts to help her, but again that doesn't feel like it does much of anything.
I feel cheap using that orb near the boss door because she only reached the boss by herself like once or twice in a dozen missions.
In addition to what the poster above me said, you can use the camera room to figure out what room Kana's in at any given time, at least, once you have enough coverage. She also moves, or at least, she attempts to move, at fixed intervals, though I don't remember what those were. It also varies a bit depending on whether she runs into an enemy or not.

Note, the hospital can't be fully covered. There's a number of rooms that MC can't enter, but in which Kana can enter. If you can't find her anywhere, she's in one of those. L can't do stuff to Kana in those rooms, so it's not a concern anyway. Either way, at first, you won't be able to know where Kana is all that reliably, but you shouldn't worry about it all that much either, at least to start with, as it's more important to build up some levels and gain some catalysts, along with making some money. Even if your goal is to get Kana lewded, you'll want cameras up anyway, which cost money... a LOT of money, especially if you're not cheating it.

As for beating up ghosts, it does help Kana, especially since MC can move around faster than Kana can, and usually has access to faster routes than Kana does. As you improve the exorcism percentage or whatever they call it in an area, the ghosts Kana runs into become weaker, so she's in less danger of anything happening to her. I think defeating Red ghosts affected exorcism values globally? Or at least, in a large area of the map. Been a while since I worried about.

Either way, Kana isn't moving while the player is in combat, if my memory isn't failing me. Unless of course the MC gets his ass kicked and spends time recovering, of course.

No matter what you do though, Kana is always significantly slower than the player, especially since the player ends up getting access to routes that Kana doesn't, and the player can ignore almost all fights aside from ghosts that block doors, while Kana can't ignore any combat. (And she really can't. It's explained later that the ghosts pursue her rather aggressively outside of safe areas. This is because unlike the MC, for whom the leader of the ghosts has a soft spot... said leader of the ghosts utterly hates Kana, even if it's utterly irrational.)
 

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Not gonna say much about your impression of the game beyond saying that it's still funny to me how for me, this is the best NTR game out there, while for some people, it's literally the worst...
Mostly because they hate the H-scenes RNG system. Others hate japanese 2D art style. Some can't stand the combat mechanic, which is utterly simple once we get the hang of it (I think it's a theme, like how player can't get the HD cameras on their first playthrough).
And I agree with you, it's the best NTR we currently have right now, I even bought it on steam and revisit it sometimes.
 
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Mostly because they hate the H-scenes RNG system. Others hate japanese 2D art style. Some can't stand the combat mechanic, which is utterly simple once we get the hang of it (I think it's a theme, like how player can't get the HD cameras on their first playthrough).
And I agree with you, it's the best NTR we currently have right now, I even bought it on steam and revisit it sometimes.
I love RNG on h-scenes. I mean, for example, Lawrance usually doesn't fuck Kana's ass until 800 submissive points, but after 500 submission points if Lawrance records AV there is a chance that you can see that Kana's ass stretched! I love that kind of RNG element in this game.
 
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Is there a walkthrough or something? I am understanding the systems a bit but a walkthrough will be helpful. I am reading that some people here have it but I can't find the download link for it.
 

OmegaShinryu

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I love RNG on h-scenes. I mean, for example, Lawrance usually doesn't fuck Kana's ass until 800 submissive points, but after 500 submission points if Lawrance records AV there is a chance that you can see that Kana's ass stretched! I love that kind of RNG element in this game.
i love the RNG scenes, but when going for full completion not having a way to reliable trigger the ones you're missing is hell.
 

herpaderpderp

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Is there a walkthrough or something? I am understanding the systems a bit but a walkthrough will be helpful. I am reading that some people here have it but I can't find the download link for it.
The NG+ file linked in the OP contains a walkthrough.
There's also if you don't mind a bit of rambling.
 

zeno1000

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How is that worse? People have been shanked for what their parents did all throughout history. People get blamed, ostracized and persecuted and so on for who their parents are all over the world. For that town, Kana's parents might as well have been the local equivalent of war criminals. People can and have broken relationships for a lot less than her history, no matter how irrational it may seem. You clearly have no idea how screwed up people are. Don't forget that we live in a world where people hate other people for their skin color and no good reason. Hating someone for the crimes committed by their parents is small potatoes, it happens all the time and for far smaller things.

If anything, this is by far one of the best reasons to give in to blackmail that I've seen in a NTR game... What you're saying is making no sense.

Also... uh... I'm not sure what the mayor has to do with anything? As for the salary thing, that's just L being an asshole. See "intentionally being incompetent to screw them over" as mentioned above. But I still have no idea what the mayor has to do with absolutely anything.

Lastly, what are you talking about. The citizens do respect the MC for what he and Kana achieve. He gets free bandages from the pharmacy places, free entry to the gym, discounts for the cinema and onsen from what I remember. Depending on side-quest progress, the MC and Kana are gifted a house to live in while they're there. The town absolutely respects him. So dunno what you're on about here...
nope the citizen doesn't respect MC, they got discount on cinema cuz the FMC is hot&hardworking not because MC, free bandages bcuz of their job, i forgot bout gym but i think L the one who provide the free entry. also MC doesn't have house, and he still needs to pay a small room without toilet to the point he cannot afford to go to onsen with his own money also the NPC in front of MC hotel/house hate him so much that whenever u pass him, he will give negative remark unless something to do with kana.

u know modern societies have more advance transportion right ?? with 1 finger she can crossing ocean in a span of an hour.
beside the FMC hate the city so much and without MC the FMC might be just looking the moon without contact with the citizen (there is a line when they moon gazing in park "this is the only place in the city i will ever visit without mc") then the next day MC forced her to work at maid cafe, just for "pls respect this old grandma that doesn't remember my name even though i work hard everyday for this ghost town"
 

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nope the citizen doesn't respect MC, they got discount on cinema cuz the FMC is hot&hardworking not because MC, free bandages bcuz of their job, i forgot bout gym but i think L the one who provide the free entry. also MC doesn't have house, and he still needs to pay a small room without toilet to the point he cannot afford to go to onsen with his own money also the NPC in front of MC hotel/house hate him so much that whenever u pass him, he will give negative remark unless something to do with kana.

u know modern societies have more advance transportion right ?? with 1 finger she can crossing ocean in a span of an hour.
beside the FMC hate the city so much and without MC the FMC might be just looking the moon without contact with the citizen (there is a line when they moon gazing in park "this is the only place in the city i will ever visit without mc") then the next day MC forced her to work at maid cafe, just for "pls respect this old grandma that doesn't remember my name even though i work hard everyday for this ghost town"
Your version of the game must be very different from what I played, because I have no idea what you're talking about.

The discount at the Cinema had nothing to do with Kana. It's the MC that find the projector and helps the guy open it at all. The bandages have nothing to do with the job. The MC can choose to help the owner, it's not an obligation for the pharmacy owner. The gym is, again, just the MC, L has nothing to do with it. L only causes the bar the open, which is why the bar is such a problematic location. You... what do you even think "Respect" even means? Kana and MC are basically mercenaries/modern-day-adventurers hired to deal with a specific threat in a town that's literally dying because of that threat. What respect do you expect them do get BEFORE they do their jobs?

Also, nice of you to ignore the point I made about MC and Kana being given a whole house for them to live in once they do show results. I guess that doesn't count as respect in your book? Even though the town didn't have any obligation to do anything like that for them?

As for transportation. You think it's that easy to "cross the ocean in the span of an hour"? Wut? You need tons of money to do that and STAY there. Moving to a whole other country is expensive as fuck and Kana clearly doesn't have those kinds of resources, or odds are that she'd have never stayed in Japan in the 1st place. And that's assuming she even has the capacity to do something like that at all. It's pretty hard to move to an entirely different country and culture, and you have to find one that's willing to accept you and not spit on you for being an immigrant.

If it was so easy to run away from problems, people would be doing it all the time. But it's really, REALLY not that easy. You're not even thinking about the implications of quitting a job like hers with no warning and what that'd do to future job prospects when her company has international reach. To leave after the blackmail starts, Kana would have to abandon the MC and quit her job without being able to explain why and that's assuming she has the resources to flee in a meaningful way anyway. Kana's an orphan. She has exactly fuck all in terms of resources beyond the organization that hired her. Trying to claim whatever inheritance might be left from her original family would only get her into all sorts of problems.

If it was as easy as you say, people would never have to suffer from racism or persecution in this modern age. They'd be able to run away from it.

Oh wait. They can't. It's not that easy. People suffer from harassments and persecution every day. What world do you live in? Are you linking to this one via some portal or something out of an ideal modern-day paradise where people can just ignore any potential problems whenever they want?

I think you're forgetting that the two of them didn't go there "because they wanted too". They were sent there. The whole situation is a job. Arranged by L, in part, but that's a whole other kettle of fish. They're not there to live there. Their accommodations were arranged by the company. (And it's implied that L intentionally arranged for Kana and MC to live in different parts of town... and conveniently, for himself to move into the part of town where Kana originally stays before the house things happens).

Neither of them can "just leave" without having to deal with all sorts of consequences for it.

Honestly. Your take on things makes me wonder what kind of life you live, where you could possibly draw the conclusion that it's so easy to just leave potential problems behind. I also don't understand your perspective on respect, at all.
 

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I never thought about it, but does penis size only make a difference in the text and scenes? Or is there any difference if our penis is bigger than L's?
 

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I never thought about it, but does penis size only make a difference in the text and scenes? Or is there any difference if our penis is bigger than L's?
There is, actually. If MC's dick is bigger than L's, he reduces more submission from Kana each time he fucks her during the night once they have their own home. Additionally, if L fucks her after MC, Kana gets less submission from him if she's used to the MC's dick.

I don't remember exactly how the numbers worked, how many times she needed to get fucked, etc. But it does make a difference. Albeit how much of a one depends on how far down she is. If she's past 800, it barely slows things down at all. If she's under 200 or the like, you'll have a bigger impact.
 
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Komdot

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This was a brilliant idea from BBQ, the challenge is better if you do self-insert, I don't remember another game having this, LOQOO has these differences, but without the negative part.
 
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Reginleiv

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There is, actually. If MC's dick is bigger than L's, he reduces more submission from Kana each time he fucks her during the night once they have their own home. Additionally, if L fucks her after MC, Kana gets less submission from him if she's used to the MC's dick.

I don't remember exactly how the numbers worked, how many times she needed to get fucked, etc. But it does make a difference. Albeit how much of a one depends on how far down she is. If she's past 800, it barely slows things down at all. If she's under 200 or the like, you'll have a bigger impact.
On the other hand, having a small penis will cause her submission to Lawrence to go up every time you have sex with Kana.
 

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On the other hand, having a small penis will cause her submission to Lawrence to go up every time you have sex with Kana.
Well, it's not QUITE that simple. First, L has to have had vaginal sex with Kana a number of times. Then he needs to continue having sex with her. If you manage to cock-block him, then eventually, even a small dick will cause submission loss as she becomes tight again. Or at least, I remember that there was a mechanic for that in place.

The game tracks a LOT of variables...
 
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