VN Ren'Py Neon Vice [v0.1] [SodiumAndInk]

[YogSothoth1982]

I knew it when I read the dev notes, but didn't think it was that bad.
First, see the woman getting a blowjob/ fucked by two guys who paid her. (Prostitute), Then, after being interrupted by MC, she asks if MC wants to do something for free while her friend/manager woman sits in the kitchen chair. Then tells MC to hurry up because we'll have the next client soon.

2. Then, after work, see the boss and the secretary going at it (because she wants a promotion/ plus she's married), you can either watch or leave.
If you watch, you end up getting caught by women in the end.
Or leave and still get caught when she comes to the bathroom with cum on her face.

Not my cup of tea if future Li are just sluts, cheaters, and will use their bodies to get what they want.
I hope we can avoid/stop women with guys sooner or later, I really dont want to only get seconds after watching all the girls already have their fun with other guys before MC gets a chance.

So far, it seems we will get seconds after women have their own way.

Dev should add to his notes.

• Voyeurism: watch girls/ future Li doing sexual stuff with other guys, and it's unavoidable, because it's not really NTR yet, because not in a relationship with MC yet. (to me, anything involving another guy is my personal definition of NTR

Seeing 2/3 future Li (or 4th one: not sure one sitting in chair at kitchen is a Li) have sexual stuff with other guys for money/promotions isn't the best start for me, at least. So far, I dont see having a harem for MC yet, unless it's just a big orgy group where everyone sleeps with anyone in their circle.

Sharing, swinging/ NTR/ harem romance never works out.
A few games have been recently added, but they're trying the same approach and never gaining enough viewers/ support, and are now being remastered or abandoned.


I guess I'll come back at a later date and check it out, who knows? At a later date, I might enjoy it, or I'll move on.

Note: not hating the NTR because I have some games I play (Mother's Love, Girlfriend, simple days/ the adored marriage, Horton Bay Stories)

I guess I can save myself from downloading the game.

 

[NotJonathanFrakes]

0.1 feels like it's taking itself too serious with writing that reads like a noir novel that's trying too hard. To me it hurts the relatability as it doesn't read like natural thoughts and dialogues.

Cryptically concise, an attempt at stylized speech, sharp. To give you an improvised taste of that flavor.

Renders look alright and using AI for animations is appreciated, except for that intro of the MC's boss, Victor, which was just an awkward smile animation that really didn't need to exist imo.
Also, the animations can't be skipped by clicking, which can be circumvented by setting the skipping options to allow skipping "unseen" text and tapping the ctrl key, but is annoying to begin with and something hopefully changed in future updates.

Either way, thanks for creating and sharing Sodium&Coffee. Good luck with the project!

 

[toxic4u]

Planned tag: Anal sex, Blackmail, bukkake, corruption, futa/trans, sexual harassment, harem(optional), NTRS(optional), Swinging(Optional)

X-Mas!

 

[barron trump]

every LI is a fucking whore, wow what a catch. i will totally follow the story so mc can get seconds after everyone got their turn. not

 

[Sodium&Coffee]

It's not necessary if MC has no relationship. I knew it when I read the dev notes, but didn't think it was that bad.
First, see the woman getting a blowjob/ fucked by two guys who paid her. (Prostitute), Then, after being interrupted by MC, she asks if MC wants to do something for free while her friend/manager woman sits in the kitchen chair. Then tells MC to hurry better because we'll have the next client soon.

2. Then, after work, see the boss and the secretary going at it (because she wants a promotion/ plus she's married), you can either watch or leave.
If you watch, you end up getting caught by women in the end.
Or leave and still get caught when she comes to the bathroom with cum on her face.

Not my cup of tea if future Li are just sluts, cheaters, and will use their bodies to get what they want.

So far, it seems we will get seconds after women have their own way.

Dev should add to his notes.

• Voyeurism: watch girls/ future Li doing sexual stuff with other guys, and it's unavoidable, because it's not really NTR yet, because not in a relationship with MC yet. (to me, anything involving another guy is my personal definition of NTR

Seeing 2/3 future Li (or 4th one: not sure one sitting in chair at kitchen is a Li) have sexual stuff with other guys for money/promotions isn't the best start for me, at least. So far, I dont see having a harem for MC yet, unless it's just a big orgy group where everyone just sleeps with anyone in their circle.

Sharing, swinging/ NTR/ harem romance never works out.
A few games have been recently added, but they're trying the same approach and never gaining enough viewers/ support, and are now being remastered or abandoned.

Note: not hating the NTR because I have some games I play (Mother's Love, Girlfriend, simple days/ the adored marriage,
Horton Bay Stories)

Hey,
Thanks for your input, that was really helpful. I think an NTR tag should be added to the game.
I would say my thought process was that I wanted to make characters who aren't just sluts or just plain-o-innocent Jane, you know. My first instinct was make the story logical, that it should make sense to me and to the players.
Because I designed the background setting first then I wanted to make characters that live in this setting who make logical senses and also can create conflicts to further the story.
Nora was made partly because I really needed sex scenes in ep1 and even one involving the MC, and I couldn't think of anything that could logically made the MC to be in a sex situation(considering the circumstance the MC was in and how overworked I made him to be). That's why she's a hooker and so her having sex with MC right away would make sense after he helped her with the fourth month stipend, she sees it as payment, like a transaction. In fact if you didn't help her with the fourth month she'd asked MC to cover for her lost business that he interuppted(the MC can decline) for sex.
Tessa is a different story, to avoid any future spoilers I'd say her having sex with the boss is very central to the story's progress and hopefully perception of her would change with the coming of chapter 2 and knowing why she does what she did.
But nonetheless, thank you for your input I'd definitely take this to mind when I am creating future episodes!

Looks very interesting, girls look good from previews, and story sounds interesting.

Have a couple questions dev:
- Will there be some lesbian interactions during group sex maybe even outside of it, not listed in tags, so just curious cause I love stuff like that, especially during group sex, like when everyone is involved.
- Also, any chance for some femdom. A girl domming us, doesn't have to be particularly hard, but could be interesting and would love some stuff like body worship, facesitting, ass eating, maybe some other stuff, understandable if not.

Either way it looks good and I am excited to check this out.

Hey thanks for your kind words!
I haven't thought about it before but it's definitely on the radar now for lesbian sex.
As for your second question, I'd say femdom is planned since I already have one character who I already planned who would be more or less in dominant sexual situations with the MC(of course, it's optional for those who do not enjoy femdom). But if you do enjoy femdom, I'd say keep your eyes on this game. May be a while but definitely planned.

0.1 feels like it's taking itself too serious with writing that reads like a noir novel that's trying too hard. To me it hurts the relatability as it doesn't read like natural thoughts and dialogues.

Cryptically concise, an attempt at stylized speech, sharp. To give you an improvised taste of that flavor.

Renders look alright and using AI for animations is appreciated, except for that intro of the MC's boss, Victor, which was just an awkward smile animation that really didn't need to exist imo.
Also, the animations can't be skipped by clicking, which can be circumvented by setting the skipping options to allow skipping "unseen" text and tapping the ctrl key, but is annoying to begin with and something hopefully changed in future updates.

Either way, thanks for creating and sharing Sodium&Coffee. Good luck with the project!

Yeah haha I am sorry about that, I wanted to create this 1960s New York in modern times vibe with organized crimes and corruption but it ended up taking itself too serious without enough payoffs yet, not much about this world is being expound to the players and now it just sounds silly why MC's thoughts are such debbie downer all the time. I will try to do better in the next update for readability.
Yeah about the boss animation that was the first animation I did and I spent a lot of time trying to do it locally and it didn't look too good but I didn't want to just get rid of it because of how much time I spent at making it and failing.
When you talk about animations are you talking about sex animations or character, or both? I made the sex animation unskippable because I feared it'd be too short without the animations.

 

[gino.pilotino]

It will never happen. My initial idea is that after a certain incident happened in episode 1, the mc realizes that there are no honest ways to survive in Vesper City, and if you want to actually live, you will have to climb to the top, any means necessary. NTRS or swinging just means the MC could use some means to control some women he encountered to extract information from them, from let's say their husbands. That's just one example. But no, they are completely optional for some players who prefer this route and the MC has others ways as well. If you played the game you could see that I give logical reasoning to MC's choices and it wouldn't feel forced in any way.
And optional scenes would not just be one choice but will have a meter to see if the player was interested in choosing this route early on and if not it would not even show up as choices.
And yes there will be trans characters, but all the girls in this game is optional to sleep with, you won't be forced into a situation when you have to sleep with someone.
Even so, I don't think the gay tag would apply as futa/trans characters are considered men per the forum strandard.

I must say that your ideas seem very interesting to me, and I want to see how you develop the story. For now, it's an excellent start, in my opinion.

 

[xmilteach]

thx

 

[Sodium&Coffee]

I must say that your ideas seem very interesting to me, and I want to see how you develop the story. For now, it's an excellent start, in my opinion.

Thank you for your kind encouragement, I'd be sure not to disappoint.

 

[yoyomistro]

0.1 feels like it's taking itself too serious with writing that reads like a noir novel that's trying too hard. To me it hurts the relatability as it doesn't read like natural thoughts and dialogues.

Cryptically concise, an attempt at stylized speech, sharp. To give you an improvised taste of that flavor.

Renders look alright and using AI for animations is appreciated, except for that intro of the MC's boss, Victor, which was just an awkward smile animation that really didn't need to exist imo.
Also, the animations can't be skipped by clicking, which can be circumvented by setting the skipping options to allow skipping "unseen" text and tapping the ctrl key, but is annoying to begin with and something hopefully changed in future updates.

Either way, thanks for creating and sharing Sodium&Coffee. Good luck with the project!

Given that the overview is AI slop, I'm guessing most of the writing is as well. Haven't looked at it yet but I'd be surprised if I'm proven wrong on that front when I do.

 

[kkk2018]

Just finished the current version. It's short but has potential. I like the female characters, especially how you demonstrate their innocence, weariness, or hidden sluttiness. I like the innocent coffee shop girl in particular. I think much can be done for her corruption or a possible ntr arc, if you choose to do so. Well done, wish you the very best.

 

[Sodium&Coffee]

Given that the overview is AI slop, I'm guessing most of the writing is as well. Haven't looked at it yet but I'd be surprised if I'm proven wrong on that front when I do.

I put what I use for AI in my developer's note. But the story, the script, and the dialogues are completely composed by yours truly with revisions from a grammar software. But thank you for the compliment!

 

[SlapE]

i love when the devs need to write about how their game doesn't have NTR but they have a big ass screenshot of one of the girls with 2 dicks o her hands

btw: yes it has ntr content or BSS NTR (that it's how the japs are calling this flavor of ntr now)

You clearly have a reading comprehension problem. Maybe you need to go back and read exactly what the dev notes say. He said not NTR "in the traditional sense", but never denied it having NTR, just that the MC isn't in a relationship with the characters who are hooking up with others, at least not yet. So in other words, no one is cheating on the MC, but some love interest are living their lives and they may have certain scenes that are with other guys that aren't the MC. Before entering a relationship with the MC at least.

 

[remillon]

ai slop

 

[Saint Blackmoor]

I see good potential here, especially in the art. The dialogue is... needs work. I wish you much success.

Tip of the day;
Many devs do this, and to me it's annoying.

Didn't your parents teach you it's not polite, nor is it humanly possible, to speak with your mouth this full?
(Not speaking from experience, it's just obvious.)

 

[WizD]

Looks promising. The ladies look great!

 

[ChrisCane1185]

Definitely should put the ntr tag if you want to keep the haters away.

 

[Sodium&Coffee]

Definitely should put the ntr tag if you want to keep the haters away.

Yeah I wish I am able to put the tag up to inform the players better, but I am not sure if that's something I could do myself. If anyone else is able to do so that would be great.

 

[Lynava]

My advice: just write in red or yellow that the game is about Harem NTR so people don't waste time downloading it.
Normal Harem and NTR never work together.
Either make 2 paths: NTR or harem.
Where you decide at the very beginning what you need.

 

[Lynava]

Like, most of those who like normal harems definitely won't like sluts, the only normal one at the moment is Sofia.

 

[RedPillBlues]

Yeah I wish I am able to put the tag up to inform the players better, but I am not sure if that's something I could do myself. If anyone else is able to do so that would be great.

You own the OP, you can edit tags. Theres a + sign next to the tags at the top of the page where you can edit them