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I agree that Nora's a whore, since that's her job. But I hope your opinion of Tessa would change when the new update comes out!
For me she could never be a li unless there was a choice added to prevent her from fucking boss. As of right now she is a whore and nothing you do for her will change my mind on it. 2/3 li's or whore's one is a real whore and the other just fuck's her way up the food chain and i would not be surprised if Sofia gets ruined as well. Mc does not have to have a sex scene in first episode and we should be able to stop a future li from fucking someone else. I agree this does look like harem bait i will keep on watchlist to see if anything changes if not guess i won't be missing anything. GL seems like you will need it.
 

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It will never happen. My initial idea is that after a certain incident happened in episode 1, the mc realizes that there are no honest ways to survive in Vesper City, and if you want to actually live, you will have to climb to the top, any means necessary. NTRS or swinging just means the MC could use some means to control some women he encountered to extract information from them, from let's say their husbands. That's just one example. But no, they are completely optional for some players who prefer this route and the MC has others ways as well. If you played the game you could see that I give logical reasoning to MC's choices and it wouldn't feel forced in any way.
And optional scenes would not just be one choice but will have a meter to see if the player was interested in choosing this route early on and if not it would not even show up as choices.
Hey Sodium

If your planning a harem route why do you need to climb to the top, any means necessary? Why can't you have the option to be a decent guy and help people where you can? You had the option to do this in the café scene. It makes much more sense to a harem reader than controlling women and extracting information from their husbands and having NTR, even if its optional. The scenario you seem to be presenting doesn't really make sense to a harem reader, mixed with the NTR and prostitutes, suggests you're going to be a pimp with a stable rather than a true harem route.

Can we also have a text box opacity option to remove it in the prefs in the next update?
 
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Hey Sodium

If your planning a harem route why do you need to climb to the top, any means necessary? Why can't you have the option to be a decent guy and help people where you can? You had the option to do this in the café scene. It makes much more sense to a harem reader than controlling women and extracting information from their husbands and having NTR, even if its optional. The scenario you seem to be presenting doesn't really make sense to a harem reader, mixed with the NTR and prostitutes, suggests you're going to be a pimp with a stable rather than a true harem route.

Can we also have a text box opacity option to remove it in the prefs in the next update?
newsflash, most realistic harems ARE the equivalent of a pimp with a stable. What, you think girls are just magically okay having others screw their SO without some quid pro quo? While I'm no fan of blackmail/coercive style ntr, the opposite of that isn't a harem, it's romance-based relationships.
 

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Hey whats the song that plays in the end? It sounds so good but I cant find it anywhere. Would love to know the name.
 

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Sodium&Coffee
Have you ever heard of "webp"?
The game's weight (size) can be reduced by up to 10 times!
Additionally, the storyline is very confusing and unclear.
 

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newsflash, most realistic harems ARE the equivalent of a pimp with a stable. What, you think girls are just magically okay having others screw their SO without some quid pro quo? While I'm no fan of blackmail/coercive style ntr, the opposite of that isn't a harem, it's romance-based relationships.
Each to their own but I completely disagree. A pimp is a criminal (in most countries where prostitution is illegal) who exploits women to make money out of them often keeping them under control with threats, violence or death, something I took the dev was suggesting was possible in his comment "you will have to climb to the top, any means necessary. NTRS or swinging just means the MC could use some means to control some women he encountered to extract information from them, from let's say their husbands." A harem is just someone who is in a sexual relationship with multiple women with no controlling, threat, violence or death implied although I admit, it is possible. Definition 3 in each of these is what I was intending in my post.

harem /hâr′əm, hăr′-/

noun
  1. A house or a section of a house reserved for women members of a Muslim household.
  2. The wives, concubines, female relatives, and servants occupying such a place.
  3. A group of women who are sexual partners of the same man.

pimp /pĭmp/

noun
  1. One who finds customers for a prostitute; a procurer.
  2. One who provides gratification for the lust of others; a procurer; a pander.
    Similar:
  3. A person who customers for and acts as manager for ; a .
 
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Hey Sodium

If your planning a harem route why do you need to climb to the top, any means necessary? Why can't you have the option to be a decent guy and help people where you can? You had the option to do this in the café scene. It makes much more sense to a harem reader than controlling women and extracting information from their husbands and having NTR, even if its optional. The scenario you seem to be presenting doesn't really make sense to a harem reader, mixed with the NTR and prostitutes, suggests you're going to be a pimp with a stable rather than a true harem route.

Can we also have a text box opacity option to remove it in the prefs in the next update?
Hey you will be able have a choice to hold out your humanity as you climb to the top. No need to pimp our your women because that would be optional. You will, however, force to do things that might be unethical to climb to the top. Because such is the truth about Vesper City. Money decides, and loyalty costs. Until you are on top, you are either with the system, or fighting against the system to result in your early death.
That would be what I considered harem. You won't be making every woman your woman if you are a lowly office worker. No one's is going to think "I am fucking him and him only even though he has so many other women" to an ordinary man. Now if he's rich, and powerful, and has a charming personality, then it's different, the story is more logical this way.
Note that I will still be writing sex scenes not related to the MC in the future, 1) is because I think it greatly frees up a lot of narrative roadblock. It'd be more logical to write a sex scene with a husband and wife, then MC with someone he met literally 10 minutes ago, even if the wife will eventually cuck their husband and become MC's woman. I can promise you that when the hypothetical woman does become MC's girlfriend you'll have the choice that they won't be with anyone else.
 

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Hey whats the song that plays in the end? It sounds so good but I cant find it anywhere. Would love to know the name.
Hey It's suno generated song. I had to resort to AI for loyalty free background music since I am just starting. I think you can go to the game folder - > audio -> and find a song called Neon Gloom and that will be it.
 

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Hey you will be able have a choice to hold out your humanity as you climb to the top. No need to pimp our your women because that would be optional. You will, however, force to do things that might be unethical to climb to the top. Because such is the truth about Vesper City. Money decides, and loyalty costs. Until you are on top, you are either with the system, or fighting against the system to result in your early death.
That would be what I considered harem. You won't be making every woman your woman if you are a lowly office worker. No one's is going to think "I am fucking him and him only even though he has so many other women" to an ordinary man. Now if he's rich, and powerful, and has a charming personality, then it's different, the story is more logical this way.
Note that I will still be writing sex scenes not related to the MC in the future, 1) is because I think it greatly frees up a lot of narrative roadblock. It'd be more logical to write a sex scene with a husband and wife, then MC with someone he met literally 10 minutes ago, even if the wife will eventually cuck their husband and become MC's woman. I can promise you that when the hypothetical woman does become MC's girlfriend you'll have the choice that they won't be with anyone else.
Ok, thanks for explaining, it doesn't sound like my kind of story. Money and power don't motivate me and I have have no desire for women who are attracted to those things, so its an early death here. Genuinely good luck with your story, I really like the idea of the MC's job, where I think you could help people going through a difficult time of their lives and make it better. It's a great basis for the start of an original story and it quickly drew me in. Vesper City less so, it seems. I'd be on the the first plane out of there to start of new life somewhere better.
 
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Ok, thanks for explaining, it doesn't sound like my kind of story. Money and power don't motivate me and I have have no desire for women who are attracted to those things, so its an early death here. Genuinely good luck with your story, I really like the idea of the MC's job, where I think you could help people going through a difficult time of their lives and make it better. It's a great basis for the start of an original story and it quickly drew me in. Vesper City less so, it seems. I'd be on the the first plane out of there to start of new life somewhere better.
You are correct, one of the "bad" ending does have the MC doing so. Though I am not so sure if that's a bad ending anymore compared to what he needs to be done to survive in the city...
 

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It's so funny to read the posts saying games have to have harem and incest, because real man fuck everyone including their relatives (of course exclusive), but then they go ballistic when a woman has sex with more than one man so she is a 'disgusting whore'.
The moment I saw a pic of a woman holding two dicks I knew two things, the game will be review bombed and there will be comments like the ones you're refering. I hope that the dev doesn't succumb to the snowflake attack and continue his game the way he (or she, I don't know) planned it...
 

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I'll go ahead and say this, You might as well make this full on NTR game because anybody that dislikes NTR or the Swinging Genre will not like seeing their women banging someone else Even if it's before they met the MC. There really is only to sides to NTR Either you love it or you hate anything that is remotely connected to it. So i say this if your making it avoidable you need to make it completely avoidable Vibes and all and remove future sex scenes of Li doing it with other people. And no i'm not demanding you to change your story for me or what ever. I'm just giving advice that might save you some time down the road. By the way, To the Dev if this is what you truly want then do it the way you want, this is your game. But your Non NTR route still having future Li having sex with someone else, is not something anybody going to play on a non NTR route, we take the Non NTR route to avoid stuff like future or current Li from having sex with other people.
 
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