I'm out. I'm not getting caught up in one of your endless debates again. I have nothing more to add.
I am not ignoring, I mentioned at the end. She give the kiss, put MC in ice and started to prepare finishing blow, she did not walked away there. Before she managed to hit the finishing blow, he melted the ice.
They weren't fighting there, she hit him out of nowhere while he was trying to explain the situation. You can't count that. Also, when he made her flying out, she was not able to get up and MC started to talk there, giving her time to recover. For double knock out, as I explained, he gave significantly more damage. If he did not heal her, she could die. So I gave the point towards him.
I really don't agree with this one. I was as fair as you and looked at it objectively. If anything, you skipping MC's holding her by her neck part was unfair. That really was an end to the fight. He could have break her neck there. They even have eye locking romance thing. MC had a chance to say how beautiful she is (she is gorgeous btw) and so on. You did not give any point to MC there.
Blackbeard literally threatened to kill MC on the spot. MC should not be in there if Kira did not brought him there by lying. What could she do more beside literally backstabbing MC there? I do like these types of discussions on forums but I feel like you are saying things just to say things.
He did not threaten to kill mc on the spot he jokes and says "should I embrace you as a father in law" or "hang you for laying eyes on my daughter" when he notes that Kira and Pearl both seem to have a crush on him. Then he laughs all mc's responsibes no matter what he says and lets him go.Blackbeard literally threatened to kill MC on the spot. MC should not be in there if Kira did not brought him there by lying. What could she do more beside literally backstabbing MC there? I do like these types of discussions on forums but I feel like you are saying things just to say things.
She literally turned around and started talking to him
Which is like maybe 3 seconds? The whole time she was actively struggling and fighting against him and managed to break free? Why would you count a chokehold as a win if a person manages to break free? And again why does that count as a win but not being frozen?
This point doesn't make any sense at all. Mc literally admits that he would have died twice in there fight without his regen ability. She also stops to talk to him while he's in a block of ice. It just seems like you're applying a lot of double standards here.
Why would the MC believe her here? Why would anyone believe a known pirate here?
And who cares anyway. It wasn't part of the arrangement, it is still a betrayal. "Give him what he wants and he won't hurt you" doesn't make it any less of a betrayal.
Why wouldn't you believe her here? Blackheart's her dad and mc knows his reputation. And even if not why wouldn't you believe a pirate on how to behave in a pirate base? I don't even understand why you would doubt anyone there pirate or not? There are some situations where it makes sense to assume someone is lying.
The moment we landed at Looters Bay my first time when it was revealed it wasn't the agreed upon destination , I didn't believe her or trust her anymore. Infact I thought she was setting the MC up to be killed or something considering she is a pirate. Before the whole cave portion I was waiting for the chance to kill her as I figure best get rid of her as soon as possible. Tho the cave part did change my mind about her. She went from kill to dislike.
I mean at the time I made the assumption they were gonna set the MC up and try to kill him but either Blackheart wanted to do the job, question him or something first. As I got the impression there was something Blackheart related first before they take him out. So assumed Kira was lying but acting like she wasn't by making it seem like we would be fine if we do what Blackheart wanted.
But they could just torture him, or do what I said and not even tell him that they're seeing blackheart but that they just stopped at the bay for a pit stop. It just logically doesn't make any sense to lie here.
MC needs the rings to prevent Baltasar being reborn, all rings have magic and belonged to the Magicians who banned him, iirc
Called deceiving someone to make them think they are fine but they are walking into a trap without knowing. Which is why i thought Kira bringing up Blackheart's name was a sprinkle of truth but not the actual truth just to make it seem believable.
yeah I am talking about that was revealed tho
I mean that's my point though. If it was really a trap why warn the MC that he's going to meet blackheart at all? She doesn't have to tell him the reason they're going to Looter's bay. She could very easily lie about why they are there then trap him when he doesn't suspect it.
Could be she isn't a good liar , so hiding a lie within a truth was a tactic she was using. Also could be also ive seen to many movies / tv shows where alot of traps are set up this way telling you are going to see the Boss but really it's a trap. Also there is the fact characters are flawed and rarely uses logic. So not everything things to be logical when it comes to setting up a trap especially for pirates.
i assumed she was obfuscating.
That makes even less sense. Why would you automatically assume a pirate in a pirate bay is lying to you when trying to tell you how to stay safe? Infact I don't even see why it being a pirate ay would factor in at all.
So I don't know exactly what series you're talking about so I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure in most of those tv/movies the person who was being lead into a trap was intentionally going to meet their boss for whatever reason and wanted to meet them. In the example you gave they also didn't meet the boss at all so that also doesn't make any sense with what happened here and really doesn't make much sense as like I said the same thing could be accomplished by not mentioning blackheart at all.
I'm not really concerned with anything. I just think logically her lying makes no sense.
truth be told I wasn't looking to start round 2 of endless debates Storm always has I just was saying what I thought my first time playing that part and he was the one that was arguing with how I personally thought my first time playing. Not like I was saying it was a fact or my opinion. Just what I thought my first time.
and why wouldn't they? Pirates are liars , thief's , murders especially in a fantasy setting. I'd trust a pirate just as much as I trust Taron unless they proof to me otherwise. At that point she hasn't done anything to make me think she was trustworthy hell she lost some trust.
What do you mean not meet their boss???? Blackheart is legit the pirate king and Kira was taking him to meet aka their boss
