Others Completed Netoria Tactics: Revolution [Carwyn Triumphant Update] [Apollo Seven]

[Power Broker]

Man, what you described seems like hardcore cuckolding with humiliation, which isn't really appealing to most NTR fans, imho.

I'm not interested in the humiliation of the cuck as a goal for the bull, the "evil guy" shouldn't care much about the boyfriend. I'm more interested in the power dynamics between everybody and I enjoy or prefer if they differ from the usual "Girl gets seduced" (by big cock).

I don't speak for NTR fans, only for me.

A girl being corrupted behind the guy's back without him realizing is half the fun of netorare, otherwise we can have some variation of netorase where the guy sees it all. It's also possible for a girl to just be a complete slut, like in the Knightess Whore game.

"Behind the back" is boring for me, it leaves the impression of the bull being afraid of the cuck, which completely contradicts the power dynamic that should exists between those two. A "slutty girlfriend" is also not perfect, because if everybody can have her, then either the boyfriend is ok with it or she is not the right woman for him; in both cases, the aspects of "stealing" and "dominance" are diminished and the NTR is kind of lacking.

"realistic rape" isn't hot, it's disgusting and unappealing to most people because we have such a thing as empathy. Making the girl enjoy it, at the very least physically, removes potential guilt and the need to feel empathy towards her.

Understandable, however, I distinguish between fantasy and reality, and in a porn game, I'm looking for a fullfilment of my fantasies. Those fantasies ignore many aspects of reality (like menstruation, psychological damage etc.) and are not supposed to be "real", but erotic and appealing, and for me that means that the "victim" does not enjoy it. It might be hard to understand for somebody who does not have these fantasies, but this can be said about most erotic fantasies including the "Why do you like it if another man fucks your wife?" one.

Also, idk why you put your ideas behind spoiler, as it's not about the game, but your preferences. Or was it because you mentioned the types of NTR that were in the game?

Yes.

 

[seekerofslaanesh]

very exited to see how far the femboy route goes when it is full developed

 

[Apollo Seven]

Update on how Netoria 2 is going for people on here.
Overall it's going very well. I'm currently working on the first three chapters as a chunk trying to get the story, characterization, and mechanics right. Overall I'd say everything is still on pace for the January release I estimated before.

 

[rouge_g]

Any 100%/end game save?

Full save pls

Page 47, remember to run the game first to a save point before using the save, the folder doesn't generate until then.

The Rabbit unlocks all scenes, the Frog sends you to a sandbox mode for groping scenes. That sandbox takes a lot of setup to get anything to show, I understand why but it's still awkward.

IMO, when first loading the save, talk to the Frog in the gallery first, enter the sandbox, then move your character back to the Frog in the sandbox and say 'yes' to sent back. You will re-enter the gallery, but this time your character has the same limitless movement from the sandbox. At that point, talk to the Rabbit to unlock everything. Makes traversing the gallery a lot easier, because it uses the same movement system as the main game. Clunky, but it works.

 

[Dungeridoo]

This game really surprised me. I honestly wasn't expecting to enjoy an SRPG game, but once I got used to the gameplay it flowed well.

The hidden NTR and in-combat groping was excellent. I played without the Gwen perspective enabled, so I got to see the obscured scenes instead. A lot of hidden or mystery NTR games will opt to simply hide scenes altogether if the protagonist isn't present. I was happy with the compromise this game took, obscuring and fragmenting rather than eschewing.

The biggest downside to this game is replayability - it's just a pain. Normal was perfect for a first run. For my second I chose easy, which was indeed easier but still felt tedious and time consuming. Trying to get specific endings like this still takes some effort. Supposedly Story difficulty removes all combat sections entirely, but you'll miss out on in-combat scenes and dancer class. A lot of the charm is in those, so I think it's a bit of a waste.

All in all, very good game. Fun, erotic, lots to see. I'm patiently looking forward to the sequel.

 

[Apollo Seven]

This game really surprised me. I honestly wasn't expecting to enjoy an SRPG game, but once I got used to the gameplay it flowed well.

The hidden NTR and in-combat groping was excellent. I played without the Gwen perspective enabled, so I got to see the obscured scenes instead. A lot of hidden or mystery NTR games will opt to simply hide scenes altogether if the protagonist isn't present. I was happy with the compromise this game took, obscuring and fragmenting rather than eschewing.

The biggest downside to this game is replayability - it's just a pain. Normal was perfect for a first run. For my second I chose easy, which was indeed easier but still felt tedious and time consuming. Trying to get specific endings like this still takes some effort. Supposedly Story difficulty removes all combat sections entirely, but you'll miss out on in-combat scenes and dancer class. A lot of the charm is in those, so I think it's a bit of a waste.

All in all, very good game. Fun, erotic, lots to see. I'm patiently looking forward to the sequel.

I agree the replayability is pretty bad. It's supposed to be more of a game that has lots of possible outcomes to support the NTR, not one you play over and over to see them all. There's more punch to Carwyn losing Gwen if him keeping her is a possibility.
The sequel I'm working on is designed to be much more replayable.

 

[Dungeridoo]

I agree the replayability is pretty bad. It's supposed to be more of a game that has lots of possible outcomes to support the NTR, not one you play over and over to see them all. There's more punch to Carwyn losing Gwen if him keeping her is a possibility.
The sequel I'm working on is designed to be much more replayable.

Oh I completely agree; in my opinion erotic games live and breathe on the contrast. Especially games with NTR. Being able to lose is what makes winning worthwhile, and inversely being able to win is what gives a loss real bite.

Still, after taking it slow and thoroughly enjoying my first blind playthrough, I couldn't help but want to explore more of your game. The sequel having smoother replayability is welcome news.

 

[Apollo Seven]

For Netoria 2 I'm doing shadow illustrations for the hidden scenes instead of the darkened versions of the first game. I can't figure out how to represent the dialogue though. The obscured text thing is kind of wonky. But just straight up displaying all the text doesn't make that much sense either.

 

[Volta]

It's not exactly elegant but couldn't you just do something like the normal text but with strikethrough or something, just to differentiate it, make it "difficult" but still perfectly readable by the player, make it seem like the character is having to strain their ears a bit.

Perhaps italicised, maybe a different text colour with lower contrast to make it look less legible but still readable.

Honestly i don't know a good method without using a reduced sized speech bubble like a comic would.

 

[Catmine]

For Netoria 2 I'm doing shadow illustrations for the hidden scenes instead of the darkened versions of the first game. I can't figure out how to represent the dialogue though. The obscured text thing is kind of wonky. But just straight up displaying all the text doesn't make that much sense either.

looks fire, cant wait

 

[manscout]

For Netoria 2 I'm doing shadow illustrations for the hidden scenes instead of the darkened versions of the first game. I can't figure out how to represent the dialogue though. The obscured text thing is kind of wonky. But just straight up displaying all the text doesn't make that much sense either.

Don't know if you ever played a game called "Summer Sweepers", but it had a strong voyeur theme and also played around with obscuring text for peeping scenes.

In the early versions of development it used unreadable cursive-looking squiggly lines for the bits of dialogue the player wasn't meant to read when peeping and would throw in a few random readable words here and there to tease the player's imagination. The trick is that there wasn't any actual dialogue, the choice of displayed words was purely designed to tease the player and not parts of any actual written sentence.

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In the final version of the game it had actual dialogue for the peeping scenes, so what they did instead was "blot out" parts of the dialogue's display window, cutting out random bits of the sentence and displaying certain words only partially. I think visually it looked good but it made the displayed bits of dialogue less "designed to tease".

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Visually I find both options pretty stylish if you prefer the player to not be able to actually read the text. If you want it to be readable but difficult them playing around with font-sizes and making the text blend a bit with the background could be an option, but I don't know if it would come across to every player super well.

 

[Apollo Seven]

Don't know if you ever played a game called "Summer Sweepers", but it had a strong voyeur theme and also played around with obscuring text for peeping scenes.

In the early versions of development it used unreadable cursive-looking squiggly lines for the bits of dialogue the player wasn't meant to read when peeping and would throw in a few random readable words here and there to tease the player's imagination. The trick is that there wasn't any actual dialogue, the choice of displayed words was purely designed to tease the player and not parts of any actual written sentence.

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In the final version of the game it had actual dialogue for the peeping scenes, so what they did instead was "blot out" parts of the dialogue's display window, cutting out random bits of the sentence and displaying certain words only partially. I think visually it looked good but it made the displayed bits of dialogue less "designed to tease".

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Visually I find both options pretty stylish if you prefer the player to not be able to actually read the text. If you want it to be readable but difficult them playing around with font-sizes and making the text blend a bit with the background could be an option, but I don't know if it would come across to every player super well.

The blotted out text thing is essentially what Netoria 1 did but I got a lot of negative feedback on it. I suppose I could just make it optional.

 

[uncommonsence]

For Netoria 2 I'm doing shadow illustrations for the hidden scenes instead of the darkened versions of the first game. I can't figure out how to represent the dialogue though. The obscured text thing is kind of wonky. But just straight up displaying all the text doesn't make that much sense either.

I like *censored* text in first part. You can try just distort txest soome wey or eav nly a fraction of sounds, if you already decided that hidden is no-no.

 

[uncommonsence]

or eav nly a fraction of sounds

dang, that's appx how u did it. I thought whole words were missing

 

[Volta]

The blotted out text thing is essentially what Netoria 1 did but I got a lot of negative feedback on it. I suppose I could just make it optional.

One thing that summer sweepers did was have the text blur be removable on 2nd playthrough. Since neto 2 seems geared for replay value perhaps that would be an option?

 

[Adepic13]

For Netoria 2 I'm doing shadow illustrations for the hidden scenes instead of the darkened versions of the first game. I can't figure out how to represent the dialogue though. The obscured text thing is kind of wonky. But just straight up displaying all the text doesn't make that much sense either.

TBH I kinda like the way it was done in game 1. That said, it would also be nice to have a non-obscured option as well. Someone mentioned distorting text, maybe you could use a custom glitch text font?

 

[Shin969]

What was great about Tactics 1 is that if you went to the message log, you could see the hidden text.

The alternate to obscured text would either be no text or full text, both scenarios don't work when setting NTR atmosphere.

Idk if there are any alternatives but I wouldn't mind at all if the text is similar to what was done in the first installment.

For Netoria 2 I'm doing shadow illustrations for the hidden scenes instead of the darkened versions of the first game. I can't figure out how to represent the dialogue though. The obscured text thing is kind of wonky. But just straight up displaying all the text doesn't make that much sense either.

 

[Chakas]

a system where the girls clothes get increasingly disheveled the more shes groped in a level.

Really cool idea.

Hopefully next game they even start fucking mid battle behind each other back.

 

[Apollo Seven]

What was great about Tactics 1 is that if you went to the message log, you could see the hidden text.

The alternate to obscured text would either be no text or full text, both scenarios don't work when setting NTR atmosphere.

Idk if there are any alternatives but I wouldn't mind at all if the text is similar to what was done in the first installment.

Any solution that involves an altered textbox would have the full text in the message log. That's the most desirable solution regardless because it means I don't have to manually edit every scene to make the voyeur version.

Really cool idea.

Hopefully next game they even start fucking mid battle behind each other back.

Rippable clothes doesn't work with this game because each character has too many possible classes. It would be cool though.

As for more sex acts in the middle of battle, yes that is planned.

 

[Volta]

Any solution that involves an altered textbox would have the full text in the message log. That's the most desirable solution regardless because it means I don't have to manually edit every scene to make the voyeur version.


Rippable clothes doesn't work with this game because each character has too many possible classes. It would be cool though.

As for more sex acts in the middle of battle, yes that is planned.

More mid battle ad-hoc lewdness that feels like FE's support points going up fits the engine and premise so damn well.