kaziro

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dude u talk like short or few time its past almost half year. lol.
its covid 19 entire world not happen ww3 we all same both.u talk like people lashed out for few week delay.no its happen 4-5 time at past 5 month
after he done 1.4 he said he kind a done all render but he waiting his new pc.when his pc arrive he excepted in few week will be ready that was like 4 month ago
no one say ncc isnt good .but 5 month legit reason and who read u and dont know all past will think its happen few short problem
and maybe if he said family issuew work issue im busy and give break 2-3 month people didnt harsly ciriztized.
istead every 2 weeks said at 2 week time will be ready then dispear last 4 month even maybe 5 month past like this.

if u think 5 month not long .and give 4-5 time time table and fail all.not a problem.
and we all in covid world live.all here at f95 games
mosy devoloper work alone or with pals most new started not big on patreon guys all have real life jobs or some freelance works

honey is clearly do this as hobby and its look after he upgrade his old pc he lerss priotizing game
well most of us yes we are playing free but u agaist patreon who payed too

yes most author not even bother write here its nice but lot of people think either hg neglect or misdrect issues
lot of author are russian.they can do living like 300-500 euro with.at italy u cant even pay rent with it.
paying patreon had right to questions those
and becouse of we werent pay isnt mean we deserve to been treated like this.

if people stop defending most like people wont start ruckus about it.

half year almost if not enough u cant say its covid.no its not at 5 month u can creat entire new game like weekly few hour spend with
at first few delay people were supportive understanting they upset but they supoortive then happen several more delay and lastlyu 26-27 febyuary deadline past too people fell like politican lvl misdrection
its all legit reason
please please stop generating excuse for and blame others.
 

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dude u talk like short or few time its past almost half year. lol.
its covid 19 entire world not happen ww3 we all same both.u talk like people lashed out for few week delay.no its happen 4-5 time at past 5 month
after he done 1.4 he said he kind a done all render but he waiting his new pc.when his pc arrive he excepted in few week will be ready that was like 4 month ago
no one say ncc isnt good .but 5 month legit reason and who read u and dont know all past will think its happen few short problem
and maybe if he said family issuew work issue im busy and give break 2-3 month people didnt harsly ciriztized.
istead every 2 weeks said at 2 week time will be ready then dispear last 4 month even maybe 5 month past like this.

if u think 5 month not long .and give 4-5 time time table and fail all.not a problem.
and we all in covid world live.all here at f95 games
mosy devoloper work alone or with pals most new started not big on patreon guys all have real life jobs or some freelance works

honey is clearly do this as hobby and its look after he upgrade his old pc he lerss priotizing game
well most of us yes we are playing free but u agaist patreon who payed too

yes most author not even bother write here its nice but lot of people think either hg neglect or misdrect issues
lot of author are russian.they can do living like 300-500 euro with.at italy u cant even pay rent with it.
paying patreon had right to questions those
and becouse of we werent pay isnt mean we deserve to been treated like this.

if people stop defending most like people wont start ruckus about it.

half year almost if not enough u cant say its covid.no its not at 5 month u can creat entire new game like weekly few hour spend with
at first few delay people were supportive understanting they upset but they supoortive then happen several more delay and lastlyu 26-27 febyuary deadline past too people fell like politican lvl misdrection
its all legit reason
please please stop generating excuse for and blame others.

To be fair to alot of clowns an idiots Covid-19 was ww3, but yeah I'd hold out complaints on this dev as from what I've seen he's better than most on avg esp on this site, the amount of content in the game already is more than alot of completed games, and from what I'm seeing he's at least trying to keep the timing on track but idk.
 

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Let us take a good example pls :

Eva Kiss: Girl gone bad/ Our Red string

Good 1st game
Much better 2nd one

Positives:
A/ Minimum or zero grind

B/ every 10% (0.1) update comes out fairly fast and get a lot of solid sex content and storyline developement and each is more intense (better) than the previous

C/ Expectations are always met or exeeded. E.g. every fuckable character by 0.5 update gets tonnes of sex especially the main characters and even some unexpected but very nice surprise twists like Minerva in Our Red String. So far 2-3 side characters still haven't got laid but it is all coming round.

Hopefully Eva Kiss won't start doing what a lot of others were tempted to and then went down in flames.

Honey Games - nice game but the delays are getting out of hand. The main character The Brother's wife has still 0 content and is completely sidelined. She should have had a solid affair even in the Follower and Meadow and the 2 brothers could have gotten even more intense before the three of them got busted. Same here we should have had several different sex plot lines with her already. The King is back or other small things were a complete waste of time - nobody wanted those anyway. Especially when you are far too late with your hit piece - NCC.

If someone is taking money for what they are doing they should be doing it well and on time - period

The lack of accountability on Patreon leaves the door open for all sort of misbehavings by most developers that go unchecked for a very long time.

Let us give 2-3 more examples of good games terribly went wrong or about to pls:

1. Second Happiness - 99% grind and 1 % sex dragged for eternity even though it could have been completed with 100 times more sex content within a month or 2 as the dev is experienced.

2. Goss_JP - Basilicata - a "complete" game with 50 plus characters to be fucked supposedly and almost 0 sex??? and at the end new characters being introduced and everyone left blue-balled lol. Oh and to add insult to injury - a new game has been started with you guessed it again still 0 sex content.. And that is also very experienced developer who can work very fast and produce tonnes of quality sex content.

3. Lucky Mark - started well and ended "prematurely " lol. Expectations were not met at all. The tonnes of sex with Elena in a nr of different twists and turns never happened. That sister out of nowhere was a flop too . Could have been his girlfriend or fiancee. Amnesia is showing already the signs of professional money milking. Months of development and 0 sex content and again even bigger promises.

Not to mention that some other devs made loads of money for that type of thing and disappeared a long time ago and still taking money on patreon -- unbvelievable...

And I am saying all this as we all like Honey Games and would like to see NCC live up to our expectations.
 

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"Problem" with this game is that there is too many girls (and dev just keeps them coming and adding more and more.) and people (myself included. for some) expect all of them to have sex content, which is impossible (at least in short term). Although, I think some of them are here just for purposes of story and not intented to be fuckable.
Mentioned Eva Kiss, yes, great games, everything optional, but she's not alone on her project, she's paying artist colorist, etc, it's easier to work when you don't need to deal with big chunk of work. Even if you became more busy than usual, it's easier to sqeeze in.
 

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The main character The Brother's wife has still 0 content and is completely sidelined...

The King is back or other small things were a complete waste of time - nobody wanted those anyway. Especially when you are far too late with your hit piece - NCC.
1, Irene is by no means the MC of NCC, she is a side character with her own unique subplot that you choose to engage in OR not, as it should be. So far she has two sex scenes at least, might be more that I missed or don't remember.

2, HG stopped development on "the King is back" in 2017 to start production of "Follower", that's TWO years before the initial release of NCC so how could that possibly be an issue???

I've critized HG my fair share mostly concerning his lack of communication. But critique where critique is due, you can't just make shit up and complain about. No need to straw man him.
 

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1, Irene is by no means the MC of NCC, she is a side character with her own unique subplot that you choose to engage in OR not, as it should be. So far she has two sex scenes at least, might be more that I missed or don't remember.

2, HG stopped development on "the King is back" in 2017 to start production of "Follower", that's TWO years before the initial release of NCC so how could that possibly be an issue???

I've critized HG my fair share mostly concerning his lack of communication. But critique where critique is due, you can't just make shit up and complain about. No need to straw man him.

My only point is to help HG get the support Eva Kiss has, before losing all the support gained. That is only possible if

A/ All bad practices are stopped for good - such as and not only - diluting and dragging forever, stuffing ( say 50 ingame days you can fuck Yanmei in a hotel - which is one and the same scene repeated ad nauseum).

B/ Serious work is undertaken and solid content and storyline(s) progression are being produced max once every 20-30 days but much better once every 1-2 weeks - Treasure of Nadya - prime example

C/ The King is back recently received a make - over and several updates. If that was done by a fan and not by HG I am happy to apologize.

D/ Irene is the lead character in Follower and even in HG's own words that was a first inexperienced attempt and didn't receive a proper completion and the promise was that would happen in NCC. All characters from Follower are here too. And all their stories started back there and continue supposedly to unravel here.
1 and 1/2 measly BJ's are not sex . C'mon man :D

E/ If you introduce characters that are supposed to fuck or get fucked - that should have happened by 0.2-0.5 for most of them already. With a nr of routes/ plots already - drugs/ booze/ corruption/ seduction/ romance/ domination/blackmail... sharing and gang bang et.c.... and solid sex content.

Constantly diluting and stuffing and slow-walking while producing some content here and there is not good.

If what is happening now continues in the future we just might get v. 2.0 in 3-6 yrs from now and maybe Irene will just get her 1st sex scene and 90% of the other characters will be still waiting for their turn

It is up to HG what will happen.

We can all find tonnes of excuses for everything

We like this game and want to see it evolve
 
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C/ The King is back recently received a make - over and several updates. If that was done by a fan and not by HG I am happy to apologize.
it was a engine conversion from Unity to Renpy, with some improvments made to the language and some minor plot rewrites, fixes if I remember correctly.
The work was done by Alfius, to their credit. It was a well needed rework.
It makes it quite challenging to take you seriously when you can't be bothered to fact check your own statements :/

I won't bother commenting your other nonsense but I wanted to make a point of giving credit to Alfius for his work..
 
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i said once and hg answered me about it.
he forced his hand by forced days and week moves.
so he cant chose partial updates focus on some story and left others
i think ncc game play isnt suit well
plus so many bug so many reapting think and lot of path dispear then force u move or do something u didnt even done it.

season 3 must be some timless play.
if were like most game he can focus one month small update like said on porn carrier or with michele focus.next month some other girl modelin focus on.atnext month overall all together few big event.next like some gf etc.
but now he cant he need do all together
like if he do maud party and fasion party
he need to cookold part he need do yvete humoltion part ne need do maud with united part he need do conor with revenge part take kristen or not part

becouse cant go back repeat event not so much in game whenever something need done he need do all toger

like example from big brother i give it last year
patreons vote something.result some month month some aspect story never get any update while other wise pretty evolved.then one sister story focued etc

plus he rl so busy
and its look kind a do italian sterortpe relaxing less caring strick displine but other hand he keep rendering old bad one again.
we love ncc but clearly wasnt best rendered game.well ok most majoritiy didnt care we love love becouse stories feels not for render otherwise this isnt 1990 u can find porn all over internet and real woman shoots.
ncc is good but not good rendered gane.some girl and sceen even look so diffrent or some are reall bad most of them ok or good.unlike some other game didnt had good renders but knowen or similar models
so becouse of he keep rendering keep fixing old render amd game issues game cant move forward
and as i said before he aready did for himself harder roote

if he did short update most fame at its ok small but enjoyable update people then can wait next months.
but becouse of so many route if he do acutally an hour long play update its decent size for small update in really for your game playing route for can be 10m
other game didnt had this much routes.
and again when u force time movment lineer u cant go back anc change story


like if time wasnt forced move on irene sotry or meadow or andreas mother etc can took some extra sceen before yoshi issues

some story can be moved some story u leave it latter on

most people didnt like fallower and we moslty not all of us but lot of us start with ncc so irene rebeca etc some caracter with cant do much thing for us annoying but understantble

becouse of story forced time limit even he want of it which he said once im done some stories at past im move on.and for season 3 he planing totally new way to go

becouse of all this problem.even he talk and cominate time to time i lost my trust

so right now offically we at saturday someone said will bwe happen most likely this weekend.
well i dont know
if he again decide re render some old renders change few game play texts amd converation again can late last days march then re tests again etc april first week


im sour guy but i didnt give up totally on ncc and hg.
im only delete from my pow big brother author.i never ever gone be patreon him even if i won lotery tomorrow.
and i encourge others some ok or good game be patreon some of people i know or i sugesting try game check thier patreon if they like etc
so i only blacklisted that dude he did gamour or something like didnt check specially after i see its online game.
big brother was my first game from f95
when he stop it with lies i was upset
so i didnt give up hope yet about hg

and who ever said ncc had lot content yesit has but reminder at 5 month 5 small update lesser or more 1.5 will do less ruckus.
good and large content good but time is good too
like every 2-4 week 5m game is bad but at 5 month add 5 hour long game no so good too.
20-30m ok game play per 1-2 month even better
so if this rate pandemy wont over so i dont wana see 1.6 at halloween
sadly patern suggest us even 1.5 come tomottoe 1.6 ealry summer even is strech.
 
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and who ever said ncc had lot content yesit has but reminder at 5 month 5 small update lesser or more 1.5 will do less ruckus.
good and large content good but time is good too
like every 2-4 week 5m game is bad but at 5 month add 5 hour long game no so good too.
20-30m ok game play per 1-2 month even better
so if this rate pandemy wont over so i dont wana see 1.6 at halloween
sadly patern suggest us even 1.5 come tomottoe 1.6 ealry summer even is strech.
I think you're setting yourself up for disappointment expecting updates that often with a game this complex and a dev that is only working on it part time.
 

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I think you're setting yourself up for disappointment expecting updates that often with a game this complex and a dev that is only working on it part time.
Let us assume please that you (Ted) were 100% right and we were all wrong, that still wouldn't change one bit the fact that HG is 1 mediocre and /or delayed update from losing all support on Patreon gained so far.

If you still honestly believe in everything you are saying and if that happens - please feel free good sir to kindly replace all lost patreons and why not even double and tripple all support and wait for 10-20 yrs no matter what and maybe you will see the game finished.

And if you go 1 step further you may even suggest to all current patreons to cover all their funds spent so far and replace them if they are not happy with what is happening or keep supporting together with your enhanced support if they are. And you will find out asap with your wallet whether you are right or wrong lol
 

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Do not be so tragic, yes, if a developer has a stressful period his game delays and his paying subscribers on Patreon go lower. He could manage better his communication in Patreon? Yes, it seems everybody agrees. But then if he can manage to fully recover the project and provide a good update he gets everything back. I don't think people like to lose supporters and income, we don't know what happens in other people's lives, most devs are just hobbyist, not real professionals. And they work alone. Everybody has got his own battles with his life, we don't know about them.
If you want to pay each month like a Sugar Daddy, pay, if you do not want to give this kind of trust just wait, download for free, fap, enjoy and then if you have the money and feel to give something back to the developer just make a congruous single payment as you would buying a game in a shop.
We're talking about porn here, nobody is dying for a lack of it, fortunately. :D
 

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Do not be so tragic, yes, if a developer has a stressful period his game delays and his paying subscribers on Patreon go lower. He could manage better his communication in Patreon? Yes, it seems everybody agrees. But then if he can manage to fully recover the project and provide a good update he gets everything back. I don't think people like to lose supporters and income, we don't know what happens in other people's lives, most devs are just hobbyist, not real professionals. And they work alone. Everybody has got his own battles with his life, we don't know about them.
If you want to pay each month like a Sugar Daddy, pay, if you do not want to give this kind of trust just wait, download for free, fap, enjoy and then if you have the money and feel to give something back to the developer just make a congruous single payment as you would buying a game in a shop.
We're talking about porn here, nobody is dying for a lack of it, fortunately. :D
For some porn is life dont underestimate them :) . Usually those who cry arent his patreons. Cause why cry here when you can either lower pledge or cancel it duh...
 
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Let us assume please that you (Ted) were 100% right and we were all wrong, that still wouldn't change one bit the fact that HG is 1 mediocre and /or delayed update from losing all support on Patreon gained so far.

If you still honestly believe in everything you are saying and if that happens - please feel free good sir to kindly replace all lost patreons and why not even double and tripple all support and wait for 10-20 yrs no matter what and maybe you will see the game finished.

And if you go 1 step further you may even suggest to all current patreons to cover all their funds spent so far and replace them if they are not happy with what is happening or keep supporting together with your enhanced support if they are. And you will find out asap with your wallet whether you are right or wrong lol
I don't understand what you are going on about. All I was saying is this is not a full time dev, and the game is quite complex (tons of story threads) and that anyone expecting updates at the same speed as someone like Eva Kiss has unrealistic expectations. I don't know how you got onto this thing about replacing a bunch of Patreons.
 

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HG seems like a person without a plan right now.

He has been doing this for 4-6 yrs already or even more - sexduction, snake tompson...

if we count follower and ncc we are talking what 3 yrs already at least and he is nowhere and the delays keep getting bigger. and some bad habits are copied from other developers too.

For his own sake he has 2 options and he has to be honest about which road he is taking:

A/ He is going to continue like that as a hobby and produce something if lucky every 3-6 months if not every 9-12 months and if there are people who are happy to support him regardless - that would be great.


B/ He decides to try and get this thing going for the next 3-6-9 months and see if that pays off and certain goals are reached - 500 patreons, 1,000 patreons and so on.

Starting with a plan and following it strictly. Say an update every 21 days that is released on day 20 with solid sex content and story development.

NCC has the potential of going like that for 1-2 yrs as there are practically unlimted opportunities there. We like the story, the individuality of each character et.c. and we are giving him a pass on poor English or lower quality - which in turn helps him do a lot more by himself for a while.

If in 3-6-9 months from now he proves himself to be hardworking, meeting deadlines always meets and much better slightly exeeds expectations and gets a much better financial support than now, he may start thinking about stopping for one month with patreons approval and finding another job - half day or 2-3 days a week to keep him afloat and leaving what he does now and working even harder and producing even more and better content once every 2 weeks. Another several months period and he may see even bigger financial support. Then he may start thinking even bigger.

Obviously something is not working for him right now.

But the times are over - when someone shows a demo and gets tonnes of money in advance and then abandons ship - Aorrta..... list is very long.

Eva Kiss and Treasure of Nadya are proving to be what I call honest traders every time. They work hard , release everything to everyone and when everyone sees their track record the financial support is only a matter of time and more work.

If they start growing and work even harder and in time start producing 2 games at a time, then 3-5 games et.c. quality content and complete lack of any bad practices - they will be in the realm of 10s of thousands per month support very soon


So what is going to be HG? Please let us know
 
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HG seems like a person without a plan right now.

He has been doing this for 4-6 yrs already or even more - sexduction, snake tompson...

if we count follower and ncc we are talking what 3 yrs already at least and he is nowhere and the delays keep getting bigger. and some bad habits are copied from other developers too.

For his own sake he has 2 options and he has to be honest about which road he is taking:

A/ He is going to continue like that as a hobby and produce something if lucky every 3-6 months if not every 9-12 months and if there are people who are happy to support him regardless - that would be great.


B/ He decides to try and get this thing going for the next 3-6-9 months and see if that pays off and certain goals are reached - 500 patreons, 1,000 patreons and so on.

Starting with a plan and following it strictly. Say an update every 21 days that is released on day 20 with solid sex content and story development.

NCC has the potential of going like that for 1-2 yrs as there are practically unlimted opportunities there. We like the story, the individuality of each character et.c. and we are giving him a pass on poor English or lower quality - which in turn helps him do a lot more by himself for a while.

If in 3-6-9 months from now he proves himself to be hardworking, meeting deadlines always meets and much better slightly exeeds expectations and gets a much better financial support than now, he may start thinking about stopping for one month with patreons approval and finding another job - half day or 2-3 days a week to keep him afloat and leaving what he does now and working even harder and producing even more and better content once every 2 weeks. Another several months period and he may see even bigger financial support. Then he may start thinking even bigger.

Obviously something is not working for him right now.

But the times are over - when someone shows a demo and gets tonnes of money in advance and then abandons ship - Aorrta..... list is very long.

Eva Kiss and Treasure of Nadya are proving to be what I call honest traders every time. They work hard , release everything to everyone and when everyone sees their track record the financial support is only a matter of time and more work.

If they start growing and work even harder and in time start producing 2 games at a time, then 3-5 games et.c. quality content and complete lack of any bad practices - they will be in the realm of 10s of thousands per month support very soon


So what is going to be HG? Please let us know
Honey Games owes you nothing, and this wall of text is a load of hogwash.
 
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Is honeygames still here and active? Last year (around October or so) I was doing a large grammar and story over write for him. I finished days 1-50 and wanted to see how he was doing and talk to him and see if he still needs help. Anyone have contact info? This is a new account. My last alias was Erock11b.
 
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