VN Ren'Py New Horizon [v0.3] [KawaiiSukebe]

[Dessolos]

At this point that I've come to expect "vanilla harem" devs adding stupid shit like prostitution to a LI. It's just how these dev's get off I guess. I find it even more funny people think Chika's story is compelling when we've seen it plenty of times. All the cuck's are happy about being Captain Save-a-hoe though.

ive yet to play the update ( to many on the backlog) but from what I was told about it I can't wait to play it because of Chika's story. For me it's a breathe of fresh air because it feels like it's going to be something different. Maybe im not playing the same AVN's but from what I was told I haven't seen many LI with a similar story to hers. Off the top of my head only maybe 3 - 5 LI come to mind at most , so it's not something I see too often feels kind of rare to see.

 

[MaxRichard]

ive yet to play the update ( to many on the backlog) but from what I was told about it I can't wait to play it because of Chika's story. For me it's a breathe of fresh air because it feels like it's going to be something different. Maybe im not playing the same AVN's but from what I was told I haven't seen many LI with a similar story to hers. Off the top of my head only maybe 3 - 5 LI come to mind at most , so it's not something I see too often feels kind of rare to see.

The other dude has no idea what they're talking about. I think I've played 100+ AVNs and while I concede I may have come across the prostitute scenario, I honestly don't even remember it, so it can't be a trope... just play the game and you won't be disappointed.

 

[Aramintha]

I have been so deeply affected by your comment that I'm not going to change my opinion.

You cared enough to reply

 

[YogSothoth1982]

Regarding Chika
Here I will be addressing some concerns and misunderstandings regarding Chika in the update 0.3.

It's interesting to see the many reactions from the players about Chika's development so far. I see some prejudice and some are very quick to judge. If you just want quick sex and super fast relationships then my game is definitely not for you. This is more about how characters overcome their past and sufferings, and really get to know each other. Just like real life. You learn more about someone as you spend more time with them, in various different situations. You can choose to love them, or ignore them. You're not forced to go with any specific route.
I guess some immediately think it's gonna be love or relationship from the start. However, it could be friendship or just wanna help someone get a better life. She helped your sister too. Many don't realize that a lot of love also starts from friendships.
I would say that you shouldn't see the girls in my game as purely "Love interests". They're just more prominent characters that are featured in the stories and ones that you can interact with. I don't consider my game a typical AVN. I'm merely writing stories I want to present.
That being said, you can still help Chika, without being in love with her.

I'm not against the MC and Chika starting a friendship, as long as I can prevent that relationship from turning into something romantic.

 

[kamsae]

I just never cared for Chika in the first place. She is always trying to say some antagonistic stuff about MC, how he lacks brain cells, etc. Whatever she wants to do, fine, I just do not care to see her around me.

 

[Gatosabio]

"OMG she's beautiful"

 

[kamsae]

"OMG she's beautiful" View attachment 4443001

Agreed, it pisses me off when the MC calls her under-developed. She is perfect in my opinion.

 

[Soulpuppet]

The other dude has no idea what they're talking about. I think I've played 100+ AVNs and while I concede I may have come across the prostitute scenario, I honestly don't even remember it, so it can't be a trope... just play the game and you won't be disappointed.

Pretty cute. Says I don't know what I'm talking about, then says that they may have come across prostitute scenarios but they don't remember, because you quite clearly don't mind having prostitutes as a LI. That's fine just don't contradict yourself.

I can point you to a game that just came out claiming that it's vanilla yet has 2 of your LI's being a stripper/whore and another having her tits played with while being in a thong and pasties by another man because it's part of her job. It's a trope that happens quite frequently.

I get it. You like the game. I did also. They took a really good looking girl and made her a whore. So we have to skip her if we don't like that. Also all the 4th wall shit is just immersion breaking. I and others are just sick of getting these lame excuses from devs saying it's to make the story better or oh there is a reason why she's fucking everyone paying and thinking that most the people in the harem genre will be ok with it. There is plenty of games that have the prostitute LI that you tame or has a "tragic" backstory of why they do it. What makes it even worse is that half the games don't even have the tag and it comes at you like a curve ball.

I also have to agree Kamsae and Gatosabio. She is gorgeous and one of my favorites and it's a shame the MC is such a piece shit towards her.

 

[Dessolos]

Pretty cute. Says I don't know what I'm talking about, then says that they may have come across prostitute scenarios but they don't remember, because you quite clearly don't mind having prostitutes as a LI. That's fine just don't contradict yourself.

I can point you to a game that just came out claiming that it's vanilla yet has 2 of your LI's being a stripper/whore and another having her tits played with while being in a thong and pasties by another man because it's part of her job. It's a trope that happens quite frequently.

I get it. You like the game. I did also. They took a really good looking girl and made her a whore. So we have to skip her if we don't like that. Also all the 4th wall shit is just immersion breaking. I and others are just sick of getting these lame excuses from devs saying it's to make the story better or oh there is a reason why she's fucking everyone paying and thinking that most the people in the harem genre will be ok with it. There is plenty of games that have the prostitute LI that you tame or has a "tragic" backstory of why they do it. What makes it even worse is that half the games don't even have the tag and it comes at you like a curve ball.

I also have to agree Kamsae and Gatosabio. She is gorgeous and one of my favorites and it's a shame the MC is such a piece shit towards her.

Personally I haven't came across this trope often in the 140 or so games ive played. I also don't play many harems so maybe it's more common in those type of games. Since you and others say it's common. For me it's a breathe of fresh air because it's an actual dark story and is different than what I usually see. However if you see it alot I can understand how it would be annoying for sure.

 

[kamsae]

Also all the 4th wall shit is just immersion breaking.

I was not sure if I was the only one that was cringing from this. I'm like trying to force myself to endure it, but it's getting hard to.

 

[Chris2041]

Personally I haven't came across this trope often in the 140 or so games ive played. I also don't play many harems so maybe it's more common in those type of games. Since you and others say it's common. For me it's a breathe of fresh air because it's an actual dark story and is different than what I usually see. However if you see it alot I can understand how it would be annoying for sure.

Yeah It happens a lot in harem games that i find funny harem games is the games where devs have the great idea of making LIs prostitutes,strippers,camgirls etc when in these games the player base want the opposite happens a lot whit new devs

 

[woofer90]

This Chika issue only exists because of the devs on mistake, AVNs have their own genres, when a dev tags a game in a certain way players will expect a certain type of content, they will play and sometimes even support a dev based on what is said, if the devs change their way or somehow start adding content that is clashing with the core tags he mentioned at the beggining of development, players will feel they were lied to, and as such will lash out.

Anyone that has being around the AVN world could have expected this type of reaction from their players.

Pale Carnations is a great example in this regard, you dont see this type of reaction there and prostitution is all around it, the difference is that players always knew what they would get by playing it. The dev was clear and honest about its content from the start.

Now this is just my opinion, but to say you have no respect for players because of their reaction, to a mistake you made is honestly embarrassing. Vanilla and Prostitution dont match its as simple as that, if the game had been tagged properly no one would have reacted this way.

 

[mwen9]

Is Hoshino Hina from another game?

 

[Joratox]

Agreed, it pisses me off when the MC calls her under-developed

I'm sure this is just a case of best friends banter and fucking with each other. throwing this kind of jabs to each other is what makes it fun. Also the MC is a bit of a clueless fuck and might not realize that the joke is sometimes taken a bit far.

I was not sure if I was the only one that was cringing from this. I'm like trying to force myself to endure it, but it's getting hard to.

You can block the memes and dev comments in settings. Dunno why you have to endure it if you don't like it. I personally enjoy some 4th wall shit.

 

[Dessolos]

Yeah It happens a lot in harem games that i find funny harem games is the games where devs have the great idea of making LIs prostitutes,strippers,camgirls etc when in these games the player base want the opposite happens a lot whit new devs

ah I see thanks for the answer yeah I was actually kind of confused / curious cause for me it is rare to see but I rarely play harems but yeah if it's more common in harems games I can understand how that trope sucks to see for some. I personally like the story telling side of it from what I have been told still need to play the update to see for myself. Lol I asked my friend for spoilers as I was curious from things I read here. but at least now I understand why some say it's common when it doesn't feel like it to me

 

[Juerhullycin]

This Chika issue only exists because of the devs on mistake, AVNs have their own genres, when a dev tags a game in a certain way players will expect a certain type of content, they will play and sometimes even support a dev based on what is said, if the devs change their way or somehow start adding content that is clashing with the core tags he mentioned at the beggining of development, players will feel they were lied to, and as such will lash out.

Anyone that has being around the AVN world could have expected this type of reaction from their players.

Pale Carnations is a great example in this regard, you dont see this type of reaction there and prostitution is all around it, the difference is that players always knew what they would get by playing it. The dev was clear and honest about its content from the start.

Now this is just my opinion, but to say you have no respect for players because of their reaction, to a mistake you made is honestly embarrassing. Vanilla and Prostitution dont match its as simple as that, if the game had been tagged properly no one would have reacted this way.

Pale Carnation is no harem game to begin with. I thought about trying it because of the great ratings it got but reading the tags alone makes my skin crawl.

Prostitution is not Vanilla. Vanilla stands for "normal" and "boring" nothing about prostitution says vanilla.

 

[woofer90]

Pale Carnation is no harem game to begin with. I thought about trying it because of the great ratings it got but reading the tags alone makes my skin crawl.

Prostitution is not Vanilla. Vanilla stands for "normal" and "boring" nothing about prostitution says vanilla.

Your action here is the point though, you went into the Pale Carnations page, you read about it, saw what it was about and decided, hey this is not for me, and left, no complains, no issues, the dev was honest and clear about the games content and because of that you managed to take an informed decision, you didnt waste your time or money with content that you dont like seeing.

 

[Juerhullycin]

Your action here is the point though, you went into the Pale Carnations page, you read about it, saw what it was about and decided, hey this is not for me, and left, no complains, no issues, the dev was honest and clear about the games content and because of that you managed to take an informed decision, you didnt waste your time or money with content that you dont like seeing.

yeah would be awesome if shit would be tagged correctly, and devs would stop lying but thats not how things are done here

 

[MaxRichard]

honestly devs have no obligation to have accurate tags on a pirate site.

 

[Dessolos]

even then sometimes a dev changes their mind about a storyline or something. So it isn't always gonna be accurate. For that reason I don't really agree with saying dev's Lie on tags unless it's like a Chapter 1 or they say something won't happen and it does.