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I tried using the enlarge text keyboard function so I could actually read a character bio and it's not really working out for me. Do mind pointing out the Discord function that makes the bios readable?
Thanks.
Thanks.
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It's not very intuitive, but you have to right click and click "open Link". Then you can enlarge it to human eyesight level.
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Thanks! I just was about to come on here and report that I finally figured it out.
So far what I've read is interesting and it's really cool how you've fleshed out your characters so much.I don't know how/easy hard it would be but I've seen a few games with character bios and if you could basically copy all the info from Disc into a bio screen in the game I think a lot of people would dig it.
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I'm working on it. It is basically the same type of coding as a gallery would be, and I haven't figured that out yet. I eventually want to add both.Thanks! I just was about to come on here and report that I finally figured it out.
I don't know how/easy hard it would be but I've seen a few games with character bios and if you could basically copy all the info from Disc into a bio screen in the game I think a lot of people would dig it.
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So, here's a comment from the other side. I just replayed Christmas Eve and New Years Day(e) back to back, and still love it. If it were an actual novel Xythurr would have a point about the inconsistencies and the gap jumps, otoh, this is an erotic VN, the story around how the MC's ends up in a situation where he is banging his stepdaughters and 'actual' daughter are a backdrop. So what if there's some small holes here and there, even the big tv shows suffer from them sometimes.
I wouldn't worry too much about them, you could always polish those oversights after the thing is done and finished, but truth be told, they don't make the game worse. And frankly I think they are less important.
I do however strongly disagree with the objection to what happened to Portia, that part is an integral piece of the story, and it clearly need to be there as counterweight. Without it would have been just another sap story. That it happened on the same table where Evie got her morning after present, well... Evie's morning after is like Liv callled it, a cleanser.
Aside from that, can't wait to see the sequel. I know, asking for a hint as to when is too much to expect, but just hope it won't be new years day for real.
And " human eyesight level " ? Mwuahaha! whut?
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I love the game too but I think a lot of people will be confused by some of the elements I mentioned as they currently are. If the dev is able to add his really cool biographies that are on the Discord it would help a lot IMO.
Finally with respect it's not up to you whether I have a point or not. My opinion is as valid as yours.
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Sure it's valid, didn't say it wasn't, like my opinion is the opposite. Only said I disagreed. So let's leave it at that shall we?
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Was scrolling and felt the need to drop my two scents into the above discussion.
I understand the arguments that some ppl will be confused, but that's just a fact for every story. Some ppl just won't get it, being because of not paying attention, lack of life experience etc etc.
But, at the same time, a good story also leaves things open for speculation for the reader. That's how most book clubs even function. You read, then you discuss/speculate on threads that were left open. Every open story thread is not a plot hole. If it's not integral to the main plot, it can be left open or explained through context clues. Even if integral, it could still be explained through context.
I mean, the context clues are still there. Like for Bex and the MC. The fact that he was in a deep depression after Heather died and mostly hid in his room. Explains why they have not done anything for a while (a few years if I remembered correctly). Which is more than long enough for things to become a little awkward/stale between them.
And we know that Heather has been corrupting Eve and Daye from beyond the grave via the videotapes, also instructing them to not show this to the MC. It would not be out of the question to assume that she also left similar instructions for Bex.
The whole Portia thing, even though it feels like it came out of the blue. It's a mid-story twist. Without it, this would just be a "slice of life" story where nothing really happens. And all the puzzle pieces are there so that it fits into the story. They have the camera/tape, and it also explains why we had to go through the whole job interview. So we would be introduced to Portia's mom. (which at the time felt pointless.)
Explaining things too much could also make a story feel unnecessary long, slow and dragged out.
This form of chapter based releases is a wonky thing. When reading the story as a whole, it makes more sense. But if the reader only reads a chapter at a time, with a few months in between, things will be forgotten. Like how a lot of ppl got upset when the "stepcest" became a plot point. Even though it's been mention in passing a few times already. Ppl were either playing with mods, or they just forgot.
But at the same time the goal is to make a complete story, so that is how it should be written.
I understand the arguments that some ppl will be confused, but that's just a fact for every story. Some ppl just won't get it, being because of not paying attention, lack of life experience etc etc.
But, at the same time, a good story also leaves things open for speculation for the reader. That's how most book clubs even function. You read, then you discuss/speculate on threads that were left open. Every open story thread is not a plot hole. If it's not integral to the main plot, it can be left open or explained through context clues. Even if integral, it could still be explained through context.
I mean, the context clues are still there. Like for Bex and the MC. The fact that he was in a deep depression after Heather died and mostly hid in his room. Explains why they have not done anything for a while (a few years if I remembered correctly). Which is more than long enough for things to become a little awkward/stale between them.
And we know that Heather has been corrupting Eve and Daye from beyond the grave via the videotapes, also instructing them to not show this to the MC. It would not be out of the question to assume that she also left similar instructions for Bex.
The whole Portia thing, even though it feels like it came out of the blue. It's a mid-story twist. Without it, this would just be a "slice of life" story where nothing really happens. And all the puzzle pieces are there so that it fits into the story. They have the camera/tape, and it also explains why we had to go through the whole job interview. So we would be introduced to Portia's mom. (which at the time felt pointless.)
Explaining things too much could also make a story feel unnecessary long, slow and dragged out.
This form of chapter based releases is a wonky thing. When reading the story as a whole, it makes more sense. But if the reader only reads a chapter at a time, with a few months in between, things will be forgotten. Like how a lot of ppl got upset when the "stepcest" became a plot point. Even though it's been mention in passing a few times already. Ppl were either playing with mods, or they just forgot.
But at the same time the goal is to make a complete story, so that is how it should be written.
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I pretty much agree with what you posted but if you want to scroll back a bit you'll see the stuff I pointed out isn't me requesting LoTR Tolkienesque lengthy exposition on every little detail.Was scrolling and felt the need to drop my two scents into the above discussion.
I understand the arguments that some ppl will be confused, but that's just a fact for every story. Some ppl just won't get it, being because of not paying attention, lack of life experience etc etc.
But, at the same time, a good story also leaves things open for speculation for the reader. That's how most book clubs even function. You read, then you discuss/speculate on threads that were left open. Every open story thread is not a plot hole. If it's not integral to the main plot, it can be left open or explained through context clues. Even if integral, it could still be explained through context.
I mean, the context clues are still there. Like for Bex and the MC. The fact that he was in a deep depression after Heather died and mostly hid in his room. Explains why they have not done anything for a while (a few years if I remembered correctly). Which is more than long enough for things to become a little awkward/stale between them.
And we know that Heather has been corrupting Eve and Daye from beyond the grave via the videotapes, also instructing them to not show this to the MC. It would not be out of the question to assume that she also left similar instructions for Bex.
The whole Portia thing, even though it feels like it came out of the blue. It's a mid-story twist. Without it, this would just be a "slice of life" story where nothing really happens. And all the puzzle pieces are there so that it fits into the story. They have the camera/tape, and it also explains why we had to go through the whole job interview. So we would be introduced to Portia's mom. (which at the time felt pointless.)
Explaining things too much could also make a story feel unnecessary long, slow and dragged out.
This form of chapter based releases is a wonky thing. When reading the story as a whole, it makes more sense. But if the reader only reads a chapter at a time, with a few months in between, things will be forgotten. Like how a lot of ppl got upset when the "stepcest" became a plot point. Even though it's been mention in passing a few times already. Ppl were either playing with mods, or they just forgot.
But at the same time the goal is to make a complete story, so that is how it should be written.
It's basic stuff that could be confusing because too much detail is left out or skipped or seems inconsistent at a glance.
A certain level of background is necessary for a story to be coherent.
Now the dev himself pointed me to his Discord which has some really detailed character biographies which helped clear a lot of it up and I appreciate it and love his story but I maintain it's still an issue if you need an outside source for clarification like it's a souls game.
When you read it all at once and it's fresh in your mind you really start noticing the things I pointed out.
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I understand your point of view. Just feel that for most of the things you pointed out, there is enough breadcrumbs for the reader to draw his/hers own conclusion. Sure, more clarification would not hurt, I'm just not sure if it's really needed.
But, at the same time. There is still room to explain things more, further down the line. So it's not a bad thing for you to point this out. Constructive criticism is not a bad thing.
Jonesy have however been good with pacing out the flashbacks, I would say. As a good story also allows the reader to try and figure things out along with the story, and not having it explained immediately.
But, it's good that he has plans to include the bios into the game. As you said, this is not a souls game.
I would however agree with you on the split paths in the end of Ch4, as I'm not a fan of multi paths VN's. And Jonesy knows this, as I nitpicked a lot of his stuff to pieces. (I'm amazed he still puts up with me) XD
But, I also respect the creative vision of the developer, both story and gameplay vice. If he wants this, I'm not going to argue. And I'm weirdly enough looking forward to seeing how and if it will change things going forward. I did however go with Daye and Kaylee on my main playtrough, since they are my favorites. But both scenes are extremely hot and well put together.
I first became a fan back when CE was finished. And it was mostly the fact that he is good with pacing and really good at writing characters that are both unique and make sense. I might just have too much faith in his writing, but so far all the qualms I have had, as the story have been developing. Has been explained/clarified more in later chapters.
Now I'm about to dive in to the newest chapter of his other story, "Siren Song" If you have not checked that out yet. I highly recommend. It's a slow burn, but a really good one.
It's quickly becoming one of my favorites AVN's.
Jonesy is pretty receptive to feedback on discord. He has even changed some things because of it when what he was trying to convey didn't land the way he had hoped. I don't think people give him enough credit for being new at all of this. I'm impressed with his writing and he's only going to get better the more experience he has.
traduction du CH1 en français https://f95zone.to/threads/new-years-day-e-ch-1-jonesy-traduction-en-francais.219837/
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Thanks so much! I try to post semiregular updates over on itch.io. If you follow me there, on my discord or Patreon or Subscribestar, you'll be as up to date as possible. FYI, I'm gonna try to post a new update for NYD tomorrow.
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Jonesy, I gotta say love Christmas Eve and NYD! I really hope you continue with their stories and do a third, if not more! I will also be checking out Siren Song soon. If it is as good as the other 2 im sure I will love it!
You probably will enjoy Siren Song the same as his first two games....it's still building, but a great story.
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Thanks! While things are winding down for the NYD story, we have met plenty of characters who haven't gotten a chance to share much of the spotlight. In the future, I plan to do some shorter adventures maybe 1 or 2 chapters instead of 6 or 7). For instance, Eve still needs to do the cosplay contest the following spring. Maybe some of the other characters will get involved with something like that? Then there's Daye with her gymnastics, Kaylee with her ballet/figure skating - lots of opportunities for shorter stories with this cast. I hope you enjoy my stuff enough to follow along with these future stories.
If the story is interesting and characters are likable, I usually like bit long story for character development.