RAGS No Haven [v0.983 TF Edition] [Bedlam games]

[fanyudexin]

fanyudexin Can it actually be done? No idea. Although the question I would be asking is: should it? Because I am VERY unsure the engine would be able to handle all the potential interactions that happen at the end of a day.

The game's interaction problem is really frustrating. Even if I use the HTML version, I have to wait for a long interactive dialogue every time when I s/l.
So how do you deal with this conflict about upper limit of slavers and lots of unique characters? After reaching 20 slavers, restart the game and recruit some others?
For me, this kind of manage game will spend a lot of time to play a save file long time. It is difficult to decide whether to keep the slaves that I carefully obtained. In addition, this also makes it meaningless to carefully find camp characters that meet the traits (I s/l to get a currency master with lgl, edu, and cun, but now it seems that I have to make room for unique characters)
In addition, do you know how to solve the problem of cutting armor size that I mentioned above?
By the way, I gave the position of spiritual leader to a beloved slaver, but now she is unwilling to hand over the position. In addition to letting her retire/enslave her/betray assignment, is there any way to let her resign from this position? Can I only let her fail and lower her reputation?

 

[fanyudexin]

Aesandril
-When and where you can get her: Coast assignment "Spectacle of the Sacred", *only the first time you do it*. So if don't get her the first time there's no second chance!
-How: Pick Diplomacy route and score a critical. [EASY]

Agronia
-When and where you can get her: Coast assignment "Reign of the Witch-Queen". It only shows up once, and only after a few months into the game.
-How: Success or critical on the last stage of the assignment. A mere success gets you a more cumraggy version. [MEDIUM]

Alice
-When and where you can get her: the special "letter" event at the start of each game.
-How: Follow the letter, pick the slaver. Only thing is the slaver isn't Alice around 50% of the time. So just savescum before doing the letter. [EASY]

Alison
-When and where you can get her: Coast assignment "Gorging on the Green".
-How: Crit the assignment, you must go personally on the assignment and one of your crew must have Unhinged, and one must be an orc male/futa; these can be the same character. [MEDIUM]

Alrissa
-When and where you can get her: Plains assignment "Temple Takeover".
-How: Pick the Persuasion route, and your slaver needs Corruption. I tested with the PC, dunno if only the PC can get her. [EASY]

Anyte
-When and where you can get her: one time only City assignment "Slithering Lonely as a Cloud". To find it, you need to do Imperial Muses with a perceptive or psychic slaver in the first role and get a critical. Then, doing IM another time, you must send a Mind Reader slaver in the first role and score another critical. This should open up SLaaC.
-How: Difficult part over, just beat the SLaaC assignment. [HARD]

Ascendancy
-When and where you can get her: Mountain assignment "Best Left Sealed".
-How: Just go against the asanei and score a critical. [EASY]

Baela
-When and where you can get her: Mountain assignment "To Hunt A Paladin", but only after hitting camp level 5 of either Corruption or Marauding.
-How: Just crit To Hunt a Paladin after the right camp level. [EASY]

Chiea
-When and where you can get her: Mountains assignment "Shadows Take Flight". You get her the fourth time you crit the assignment.
-How: Just crit the assignment several times and eventually you get her. I think the crits don't need to be in an unbroken streak. [EASY, though takes a while]

Donella
-When and where you can get her: "Stockades Survival", a special Great Plains assignment that comes up after you advance her plot (going to the Marshlands region) to the headpats/oral sex stage, and also it only shows up after you've done Reign of the Witch-Queen.
-How: Explore the Marshlands and follow the ravens several times, until you unlock the Marshlands Training assignment. Send many slavers to that assignment. After some 5 (?) slavers, visit Donella again a few more times so she tells you her story, and soon you get to the oral sex/headpats stage. After you do RotWQ, a special event will pop up after a slaver finishes Marshlands Training, opening her assignment. You have limited time to do it. But succeeding will get you Donella. [HARD, takes money and time to get that many slavers to do Marshlands Training]

Dove
-When and where you can get her: Mountains assignment "Shadows Take Flight". You get her the fifth time you crit the assignment.
-How: Just crit the assignment several times and eventually you get her. I think the crits don't need to be in an unbroken streak. [EASY, though takes a while]

Harmony/Malice
-When and where you can get her: Mountain assignment "Tyrannical Legacy".
-How: Seek her out and score a critical. [EASY]

Jandaka
-When and where you can get her: City assignment "Newfound Fascination", which can only spawn after you complete the City assignment "Cutprice Roses" with the highest value in gold.
-How: Just beat the assignment the first time and you'll get your own thicc green alien. [EASY]

Johanna
-When and where you can get her: City assignment "Centre of Attention", which can only spawn if your camp has done Corruption at least 10 times.
-How: The PC must go in the first slot, and also someone must have Corruption. (Not 100% sure.) [MEDIUM]

Kaara
-When and where you can get her: Coast assignment "Wayward Temptations".
-How: Score a critical with a slaver with the "Anointed One" aspect, gainable through corruption. [HARD unless you have that lying around]

Keelin
-When and where you can get her: City assignment Visit the Aversol Markets. It's always available.
-How: You need to send a slaver with Hypnotic, Malevolence or Dominator. If you do, there's roughly a 5% chance of acquiring her, but otherwise you don't need a specific result. [fairly EASY, depends on RNG not being much of a dick to you, but otherwise you can get her in like the first week of the game]

Kivsi
-When and where you can get her: one time only City assignment "Slithering Lonely as a Cloud". To find it, you need to do Imperial Muses with a perceptive or psychic slaver in the first role and get a critical. Then, doing IM another time, you must send a Mind Reader slaver in the first role and score another critical. This should open up SLaaC.
-How: Difficult part over, just beat the SLaaC assignment. [HARD]

Kiruna
-When and where you can get her: Coast assignment "Spectacle of the Sacred", *only the first time you do it*. So if don't get her the first time there's no second chance!
-How: Pick Diplomacy route and score a critical. [EASY]

Krystal
-When and where you can get her: Forest assignment "A Gem For Nothing". I think you can only get her the first time you do it, but not sure. Also, AGFN doesn't spawn in the first few months.
-How: Success or critical the first time you do the assignment gets you this easiest of easy elf sluts. [EASY]

Kyssandra
-When and where you can get her: Coast assignment "Stars in their Eyes". You need to do it at least twice, three times might make it easier.
-How: One of the critical outcomes of SitE is hearing a story about her. So you need this first, which might take some scumming - just any crit doesn't cut it. Then, you need to do the assignment again during "Heavenly Debauchery" event. As another outcome of SitE is to trigger this, this is why I said you might want to do the assignment three times. Anyway, during HD, after hearing the story, and if your slaver is a sub... only then you acquire this damn wisp on a critical! [HARD]

Lara Dawnspire
-When and where you can get her: Plains assignment "Retribution for Arrogance".
-How: There's a base 0% chance of getting her with a critical result. Each slaver with the Booty Snatcher aspect adds 10%. Learning the ritual by critting Treachery Most Foul with a Corruption slaver, then afterwards talking to Shadriel, adds 70%. [HARD]

Lara Felspire
-When and where you can get her: Mountains assignment "Arrogance Subjugated", which only spawns after you've done Treachery Most Foul, learning the ritual (see Lara Dawnspire).
-How: Just throw Lara Dawnspire into the assignment and bam. The only hard thing is getting her in the first place. [HARD]

Lythrana
-When and where you can get her: Mountain assignment "Sable Masquerade", only after you do the Treachery Most Foul assignment and free Shadriel.
-How: You and Shadriel do SM, score a crit, done. [MEDIUM just because of the steps to get there]

Miina
-When and where you can get her: City assignment "Private Passage", after doing it at least twice, acquiring Severina in the process (below).
-How: Take Severina along, score a critical, enjoy the scene. [EASY]

Mio
-When and where you can get her: Mountains assignment "Shadows Take Flight". You get her the third time you crit the assignment.
-How: Just crit the assignment several times and eventually you get her. I think the crits don't need to be in an unbroken streak. [EASY, though takes a while]

Nike
-When and where you can get her: "A Gem's True Cost", around the camp assignment that fires roughly two-three months after you acquire Krystal (above).
-How: A critical on the assignment. [MEDIUM due to all the waiting]

Nora
-When and where you can get her: "House Sitting", a City assignment.
-How: Crit the assignment, accept her offer. [EASY]

Rizette
-When and where you can get her: Special Mountains assignment "Villa Most Vile". Here we go: 1) Get a True Angel. Yes, this is difficult enough on its own. Back in the day, the secret to getting one was the most asked question in this thread... the memories... but anyway, for that, get a critical success on Truly Divine with a former paladin of the Light/inquisitor in the first slot, then corruption, biomancy and a trainer. 2) Do a Holding Back the Dark assignment and get a DISASTER result. Even this has only a 50% chance of working, 75% if a Fel Tide event is happening. If this works, it will generate a Mistress of Torments assignment. 3) Success or critical on this MoT will generate Villa Most Vile.
-How: Remember that True Angel? You have to sell it on VMV and get a critical success. Good luck! [HARDEST]

Rynhart
-When and where you can get her: Forest assignment "Shuffled Deck", which pops up of its own some two months after you get Severina (below), if she's still a (pussy) virgin.
-How: Crit the assignment, grab her. [HARD because of Severina's inviting pussy]

Samudra
-When and where you can get her: Plains assignment "A Deluge of Oozes".
-How: You need to crit and your slave offering needs to have 3+ Endurance Training, a rare race (200+ gold I think), the Resilient trait, and a magic-user trait. [HARD]

Shadriel
-When and where you can get her: Mountains assignment "Treachery Most Foul", which appears after a critical success in "In Pursuit of Arrogance".
-How: free her from the ritual. Don't fail. Also, you probably want to send a Corruption-user due to Lara (above). [EASY]

Severina
-When and where you can get her: City assignment "Private Passage", after doing it at least once to get a former student slave.
-How: Just take the former student along and score a critical. [EASY]

Tessa
-When and where you can get her: City assignment "Adversarial Affairs".
-How: Your slavers must inclue at least one with corruption and one with Psychic. Then, all you need is a critical. [MEDIUM]

Veren
-When and where you can get him: "A Gem's True Cost", around the camp assignment that fires roughly two-three months after you acquire Krystal (above).
-How: A success or critical on the assignment. [MEDIUM due to all the waiting]

Defending - Truly Divine - (Four Slavers) - (Seven Days) - (Super Rare) - Critical Success (Crit: 5% Suc: 37% Fail: 40% - Roll: 3%)

When your slavers felt the sheer burning heat of the true-angel's overwhelming radiant aura they wondered just what they were thinking. Even more so when they took in the arrayed succubi and other fel tainted all following her demurely with tranquil expressions.

Realizing this was something well beyond any of them, they turned their attention to much easier prey. Even so it did not seem as if the true-angel would be happy to part with one of her flock to some enterprising sex slavers. Drawing lots to see just who would have the misfortune to face one of the true-angels, the three losers stepped out into a clearing.

Namaah thanked their lucky stars as all they had to do was take one of the tranquil succubi who went with them without complaint, and got to completely avoid the overwhelming force of destruction that was a true-angel in all her glorious power.

Lucky, they thought, was an entirely inadequate word when they managed to track down the others after night had long fallen upon the icy mountain tops. All three were clearly battered, singed in various places, totally exhausted, and yet all were grinning widely from the post rush high of so much adrenalin. Full of stories of nearly impossible bravado, heroic daring feats of defiance, before finally sharing their amazement of just how bloody quick each of them had managed to leg it so incredibly fast with that damned winged terror descending upon them.


Aspect - Inquisitor

Zinaholen Zikeen - Liked Competent Basic Geared Deviant Inquisitor - Perfect Morale (100) - Defending Rank I - (Usc+)|+6F|(Fel)(5)(Fel)(5) - Morale maxed - 250 xp earned - Zinaholen is now a veteran. - Level up! options available
Namaah the Meticulous - Popular Veteran Researcher - Perfect Morale (100) - Defending - (M:Co)(Fel)(3) - 250 xp earned
Lady Ariana Fiorentini - Liked Competent Second-in-Command - High Morale (90+) - Defending - (M:Bi)(Cun) - Morale maxed - 250 xp earned
Alice Charmane - Competent Trainee - Perfect Morale (100) - Defending - (Trn)(Obedient: (Her)(Coo)(Slt+)|+1F| ) - Morale maxed - 250 xp earned


Rewards
New slave acquired! - Jalella - Succubus Female
must be demi-angel+inquisitor? Which step went wrong?

 

[User1810]

Defending - Truly Divine - (Four Slavers) - (Seven Days) - (Super Rare) - Critical Success (Crit: 5% Suc: 37% Fail: 40% - Roll: 3%)

When your slavers felt the sheer burning heat of the true-angel's overwhelming radiant aura they wondered just what they were thinking. Even more so when they took in the arrayed succubi and other fel tainted all following her demurely with tranquil expressions.

Realizing this was something well beyond any of them, they turned their attention to much easier prey. Even so it did not seem as if the true-angel would be happy to part with one of her flock to some enterprising sex slavers. Drawing lots to see just who would have the misfortune to face one of the true-angels, the three losers stepped out into a clearing.

Namaah thanked their lucky stars as all they had to do was take one of the tranquil succubi who went with them without complaint, and got to completely avoid the overwhelming force of destruction that was a true-angel in all her glorious power.

Lucky, they thought, was an entirely inadequate word when they managed to track down the others after night had long fallen upon the icy mountain tops. All three were clearly battered, singed in various places, totally exhausted, and yet all were grinning widely from the post rush high of so much adrenalin. Full of stories of nearly impossible bravado, heroic daring feats of defiance, before finally sharing their amazement of just how bloody quick each of them had managed to leg it so incredibly fast with that damned winged terror descending upon them.


Aspect - Inquisitor

Zinaholen Zikeen - Liked Competent Basic Geared Deviant Inquisitor - Perfect Morale (100) - Defending Rank I - (Usc+)|+6F|(Fel)(5)(Fel)(5) - Morale maxed - 250 xp earned - Zinaholen is now a veteran. - Level up! options available
Namaah the Meticulous - Popular Veteran Researcher - Perfect Morale (100) - Defending - (M:Co)(Fel)(3) - 250 xp earned
Lady Ariana Fiorentini - Liked Competent Second-in-Command - High Morale (90+) - Defending - (M:Bi)(Cun) - Morale maxed - 250 xp earned
Alice Charmane - Competent Trainee - Perfect Morale (100) - Defending - (Trn)(Obedient: (Her)(Coo)(Slt+)|+1F| ) - Morale maxed - 250 xp earned


Rewards
New slave acquired! - Jalella - Succubus Female
must be demi-angel+inquisitor? Which step went wrong?

Where did you acquire Zinaholen Zikeen? Only characters acquired from two specific assignments count as a paladin or inquisitor of the Light. Just having the Inquisitor aspect doesn't count for it.

 

[enorelbotwhite]

Was hoping things would get going now that he's done with the mess that is RAGS, but it kind of seems like the opposite happened instead

 

[Tsugumi]

enorelbotwhite Expecting any sort of port to be even remotely fast would be shortsighted, to the point where the production multiplier known as "Bedlam" is hardly a factor anymore. Even dumbed down, a port can take years - not only the code itself (i.e., adapting the program; the part Bedlam seems to have mostly gotten over and done with), but there is also the "undetermined amount of time" factor for porting the actual content of the game itself. I doubt it would be much fun playing ported NH with 10-or-so missions total, anyway.

My point is - naaaaah, not even Frank posting a fixed RAGS version can hurry Bedlam up now. Strap in for the long ride and start waiting faster.

 

[fanyudexin]

Where did you acquire Zinaholen Zikeen? Only characters acquired from two specific assignments count as a paladin or inquisitor of the Light. Just having the Inquisitor aspect doesn't count for it.

I have come to understand that this inquisitor is not that inquisitor
How can I get Unstable Change on my PC? I have both MBI and MCO, but each PC can only choose Ritual Caster

 

[fanyudexin]

Haven't really found any more unfortunately, but I did compile them up nicely. If I find more I'll add them.

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The traits in corruption can easily be found on the wiki, but I thought i'd list it here anyways...

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Anyways, the best way to get decent slavers early I've found is to wait for the 'Disbanded!' event that gives better quality mercs at town/tavern and then scumsave going to town until you get a decent slaver and then hypnotize them into joining officially. In my experience you don't get very good quality slavers via leveling up your encampment until you've completed a certain mission. (I think it's that Reign of the Witch Queen mission or whatever it's called that improves the quality of the slavers you get from levelling up). Also something to note is that when you're recruiting mercenaries at the town/tavern, they'll likely have traits that make sense for their race. For example, Human Nobles will often have Educated/Reserved/Loner, and Orcs are more likely have Aggressive/Brutal or M: Co over other magics. Whereas if you get them from leveling a category their traits seem to have absolutely no relationship with their race from what I can tell.

Scavenging - Explore Abandoned Mine - (Two Slavers) - (Six Days) - (Uncommon) - Critical Success (Crit: 24% Suc: 71% Fail: 85% - Roll: 12%)

Sarah Kindheart - Inexperienced Shallyan Slaver - Perfect Morale (100) - Scavenging - Great Plains|-5U| - (Fol) - 150 xp earned - (Reputation change: from None to Liked)
Otoalione Fateguard - Respected Competent Woodswoman - Perfect Morale (100) - (Drider) - Scavenging - Great Plains|-5U| - - Trait Gained: Brutal (Bru) - 150 xp earned

 

[Sum Gi]

If you're having trouble starting it make sure you've grabbed microsoft sql 3.5, that did it for me.

 

[fanyudexin]

enorelbotwhite Expecting any sort of port to be even remotely fast would be shortsighted, to the point where the production multiplier known as "Bedlam" is hardly a factor anymore. Even dumbed down, a port can take years - not only the code itself (i.e., adapting the program; the part Bedlam seems to have mostly gotten over and done with), but there is also the "undetermined amount of time" factor for porting the actual content of the game itself. I doubt it would be much fun playing ported NH with 10-or-so missions total, anyway.

My point is - naaaaah, not even Frank posting a fixed RAGS version can hurry Bedlam up now. Strap in for the long ride and start waiting faster.

Do you know what it takes to get the real reward in the Hidden Temple assignment? Like sending a Drider in the Explore Abandoned Mine assignment allows the slaver in position 2 to get the trait/enchantment item

 

[fanyudexin]

I want to ask everyone about the selection of slavers.
First choice: Drider obtained in Wrapped in Webs assignment, (Lon)(C:Ap)(Mon)(Tpr)(Btf)(Tra)(Res)
Explore Abandoned Mine assignment gives (Bru), I gave Caress of Bone through corruption, Grants the Malevolence, Terrifying and upgraded to obtain Blighted Aura (can spend money to remove Caress of Bone, so won't lose the critical bonus provided by obtaining Ultimate quality armor), and remove (Lon) through Hyp
Second choice: Black Orc (Str)(C:Br)(Psy)(Min)(E:Fi) Given (Unh)(Mal) through Board The Crossbones, and upgraded to obtain Blighted Aura
Third choice: In Draki Maid Assignment gets (Sub)(Slt)(E:Fi)(Str+)(Res)(Usc)(M:Na)(Hyp)(Tac) or (Sub)(Slt)(E:Fi)(Str+)(Res)(Usc)(Min)(Bru)(Tpr)
You can enslave her and turn (sub) into sub/dom or dom
The race of drider is very useful in some assignments, and the race of draki: Draconic Majesty is also very attractive, and there is also the fire mage orc of min+psy, which one will you keep?

 

[Tsugumi]

Can orc cum addiction effect/trait thingy be removed somehow, or is it permanent? I figure "proper" addiction is permanent, so the question is more about partial addiction, e.g., "A Word in Your Ear" where you send a slaver+slave to negotiate for supplies while the slave keeps pleasuring both parties, and the other party might end up being an orc. So, can I get rid of it somehow or is that slave already done and I might as well just go all the way to full addiction?

 

[Tsugumi]

Throwing in another: is "Secretly Submissive" some sort of sliding scale or something?

I thought it was a trait that stays unless you intentionally target it (e.g., overriding a trait via Biomancy, or Obedience training to remove Defiant), but I noticed today that my leader - Human Akir Princess default start - somehow lost it after Hunt A Paladin (a marauding mission) and getting the Mesmer aspect. My assumption of its permanence was wrong, so my question is: did I act dominantly somehow, like doing marauding/slaving missions, and that caused it to go away? If so - does that mean it can reappear if I go for missions that make the leader act submissively (Barbarous Bargains, A Word In Your Ear, etc.)?

Bottom line: I want to keep the trait, hence my worries about having lost it - once lost, can I get it back without reloading earlier saves?

 

[Ishtaros]

^ Never experienced that myself and I usually play with a submissive character. Sounds like corruption got involved somehow, or something wonky with the game.

I was actually going to ask generally if anyone knows all the ways for a non-sub, switch or dom player character to gain submissive. Don't think there's a list anywhere. So far I know of:
1. In game options. So click your pic > Glossary... > Change Preferences > Remove Dominant or Remove and Gain Submissive. Funnily there's no option to go from sub to dom. Can't go from dom to switch though AFAIK.
2. Corruption
3. QAYL: Going yourself should give this (I think), also turns males to female (maybe futa to female too).
4. Share the Wealth: Disaster will give the slaver (including the player) a trinket that gives them bimbo, sex addict, exhibitionist, and submissive. This includes dom characters.
5. If you rack up enough debt with the Ensnared Rose and trigger the event where you must go every morning, it can eventually give it. Last time my character flipped in one of the lago'mae biomancer events.

I don't think volunteering for sub roles will give the trait (unfortunate), though I haven't tested it so much. Maybe glory-holing enough can do it. Maybe cum addiction. I could've sworn it happened once after biomancing my character into either anal slut or oral fixation.

 

[Tsugumi]

I don't think volunteering for sub roles will give the trait

Bummer that I cannot chime in on this, as the Akir Princess is a start with the Submissive trait (for Leaders the name is "Secretly Submissive"). As for Biomancy - maybe you did, because sometimes Bio can "crit", applying twice (I think Corruption can, too). Or maybe I never noticed since my Leader already had Sub. The author of Loaded Dice mod fixed that, though, so...more testing.

 

[Tsugumi]

Severina will be the death of me (you need to keep her a virgin to get her girlfriend later on from Private Passage) - points for immersion, I have done ALOT of ACTUAL planning between keeping her in training and keeping slavers on assignments .

So, is there a way to protect a slave from the random orgies at the end of each day? I would VERY MUCH like to not savescum+Examine every day. I thought bedwarmers were safe, but I think I saw them being molested by other slavers, anyway.

 

[Ishtaros]

Severina will be the death of me (you need to keep her a virgin to get her girlfriend later on from Private Passage) - points for immersion, I have done ALOT of ACTUAL planning between keeping her in training and keeping slavers on assignments .

So, is there a way to protect a slave from the random orgies at the end of each day? I would VERY MUCH like to not savescum+Examine every day. I thought bedwarmers were safe, but I think I saw them being molested by other slavers, anyway.

I think you can order a guard to make a slave off limits. Still no guarantees. Not sure if it factors but I'd lock her in chastity gear. For immersion if nothing else lol.

 

[Tsugumi]

Is there a way to selectively remove traits without Biomancy/Corruption (Imperial Muses reasons)? Specifically, I was so happy about critting Profane Ritual and getting Thrallforge Aspect that I failed to compute the implications of getting Malevolence and Terrifying along with it on a slu...ahem..."infiltrator" leader. It ended up being a disaster in more than one way.

On another note: I seem to be hated by RNG or something - I cannot for the life of me get Keelin using Tessa, the unique slaver from Adversarial Affairs (she starts out with Dominator trait); been sending her to the markets over and over for almost 20 months and despite all the successes Keelin just never pops up. Since the assignment says "Special: Will provide 6d20 Supplies and possibly a [?] too on a Failure result." - is she the "?" I have to specifically fail for, instead? At least that would explain me not getting her since by now Tessa is up to her eyeballs in upgrades and has about 5% of Failure and Disaster combined there.

 

[Tsugumi]

Is Bedlam trying to make ACTUAL lore or at least relations between characters? I just realized Nora and Alice are both Human Nobles with the last name "Charmane". And when you recruit Nora you get this

which - and this is something I could totally see if there IS a shot at proper lore - might mean that the mistress of Ensnared Rose taking Alice in was the favour owed.

Inb4 I find out there is an actual relation.....is there? Not that it would be the first - Agronia and Donella already have their own unique CG. And I hate that Reign Of the Witch-Queen is completely out of player control: spawns randomly without a trigger, can expire, never reappears, cannot be OH SHITed because Distinction only affects the first roll out of 4.

 

[User1810]

Is Bedlam trying to make ACTUAL lore or at least relations between characters? I just realized Nora and Alice are both Human Nobles with the last name "Charmane". And when you recruit Nora you get this



which - and this is something I could totally see if there IS a shot at proper lore - might mean that the mistress of Ensnared Rose taking Alice in was the favour owed.

Inb4 I find out there is an actual relation.....is there? Not that it would be the first - Agronia and Donella already have their own unique CG. And I hate that Reign Of the Witch-Queen is completely out of player control: spawns randomly without a trigger, can expire, never reappears, cannot be OH SHITed because Distinction only affects the first roll out of 4.

Yeah the only defense against getting ROTWQ is that it doesn't spawn in the first couple of months. So after that you might have to avoid scouting the region until you're ready. The Coast also has Meddling Fools anyway, which is another assignment you probably don't want spawning unless you want to do it.

As for the character connections, yeah, pretty sure Nora and Alice are sisters. The male sea elf pirate start with a unique lore page also has a quote from the elf princess in A Gem For Nothing about their being related.

On another note: I seem to be hated by RNG or something - I cannot for the life of me get Keelin using Tessa, the unique slaver from Adversarial Affairs (she starts out with Dominator trait); been sending her to the markets over and over for almost 20 months and despite all the successes Keelin just never pops up. Since the assignment says "Special: Will provide 6d20 Supplies and possibly a [?] too on a Failure result." - is she the "?" I have to specifically fail for, instead? At least that would explain me not getting her since by now Tessa is up to her eyeballs in upgrades and has about 5% of Failure and Disaster combined there.

I don't remember the details, but my guess is that it's one of two possible requisites missing:
1- Maybe only male and futa can recruit her,
2- Maybe only the MC can recruit her.

 

[Tsugumi]

So after that you might have to avoid scouting the region until you're ready.

Oh, never even crossed my mind that it has to be discovered - for some inexplicable reason I thought it just randomly popped up after some time. Yeah, scouting the Coast might be the thing to avoid; when ROTWQ showed up I think I only met Donella once, i.e., had two more meetings to go before she even offers slaver training...and if I think wrong, then I never met her at that point.

I don't remember the details, but my guess is that it's one of two possible requisites missing:
1- Maybe only male and futa can recruit her,
2- Maybe only the MC can recruit her.

I remember getting her using a male goblin mesmer, so I am 100% positive 2 is not it, and about 80% sure that was not on Failure so I was kinda grasping at straws there. As for 1 - I LOVE testing. the cake is a lie