VN Ren'Py Abandoned No More Golden Days [Act 1 Fix] [Studio Kuma]

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Daaaaaaaaaaaamn! The art is amazing!
The details, expressions, and the hair movement are so well done! You just outclassed 99% of 3d animations I've ever seen. Geez even the jizz splashing on her face and dripping down makes me think that you used a fluid simulation...

You sure you're not using a Super Mega Duper Quantum AI? Messieurs


That said, the only "flaw" is the fps and for that I have a suggestion. Interpolation.

Basically I stitched the s3 images into a video but sadly the conversion wasn't perfect. There was a bug in my video editing software that wouldn't let me set frame time duration lower than 0.13 or some shit like that. Still, it's good enough for a demonstration.


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So here's the animation in 12 fps (the video is about 0.6 seconds shorter than the ingame animation because of the reason above)

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And here's the exact same video file interpolated to 60 fps with a program called I followed (steps 1-4) just to test out this idea. It's smoooooth as fuck :D

I'm a noob when it comes to video editing and that was my first time using interpolation on a video so the results aren't as breathtaking as your art. However, I did that in one hour (Most of time was trouble shooting why the fuck Da Vinci Resolve wouldn't let me set 0.07 as a frame time duration). So with a little research and proper frame timing I'm confident you'd get better results.


Would be interested in reading your thoughts on this. Also a quick question. Do you use references of real humans when drawing? The faces of this and your previous game look like you've painted a real person (y)
 
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Studio Kuma

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Daaaaaaaaaaaamn! The art is amazing!
The details, expressions, and the hair movement are so well done! You just outclassed 99% of 3d animations I've ever seen. Geez even the jizz splashing on her face and dripping down makes me think that you used a fluid simulation...

You sure you're not using a Super Mega Duper Quantum AI? Messieurs


That said, the only "flaw" is the fps and for that I have a suggestion. Interpolation.

Basically I stitched the s3 images into a video but sadly the conversion wasn't perfect. There was a bug in my video editing software that wouldn't let me set frame time duration lower than 0.13 or some shit like that. Still, it's good enough for a demonstration.


View attachment 389310



















So here's the animation in 12 fps (the video is about 0.6 seconds shorter than the ingame animation because of the reason above)

View attachment 389314



















And here's the exact same video file interpolated to 60 fps with a program called I followed (steps 1-4) just to test out this idea. It's smoooooth as fuck :D

I'm a noob when it comes to video editing and that was my first time using interpolation on a video so the results aren't as breathtaking as your art. However, I did that in one hour (Most of time was trouble shooting why the fuck Da Vinci Resolve wouldn't let me set 0.07 as a frame time duration). So with a little research and proper frame timing I'm confident you'd get better results.


Would be interested in reading your thoughts on this. Also a quick question. Do you use references of real humans when drawing? The faces of this and your previous game look like you've painted a real person (y)
It will probably disappoint you but I'm not the artist; I shall pass on the technique and all the compliment to him. Also, these 4 animations took us way too long to finish, so we won't be doing any for our monthly updated Main Game. I feel like people complain a lot regarding the length which we could easily double if not making those animations, so yeah, doesn't seem like it's really cost-effective, and people don't really appreciate them. :ROFLMAO: As for the reference, no we didn't.
 
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Beautiful art style, gorgeous MC, loved the theme and the choices (oh I love the choices especially games with female MC, my favourite are the once where they take stand for themselves).
After going through the forum I saw that developer is talking about taking time to build a quality product, from what I have played in the current version I am pretty sure just like me there are others who would love to wait for it. Loved it, awaiting update.
 
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That is one crazy good animation, can't wait for more updates

i hope she does not become a prostitute later on
 

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That is one crazy good animation, can't wait for more updates

i hope she does not become a prostitute later on
If they want keep a little bit of historical accuracy in the game, i think not. She is the member of Cornelii family, what family is part of the roman nobilitas (the leading patrician families). Women from such a noble family become a prostitute... Impossible. (even a lower level patrician women/girl cant become a prostitute, this thing can undermine the authority of the leading families of the Res publica, so its against the state)
 

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If they want keep a little bit of historical accuracy in the game, i think not. She is the member of Cornelii family, what family is part of the roman nobilitas (the leading patrician families). Women from such a noble family become a prostitute... Impossible. (even a lower level patrician women/girl cant become a prostitute, this thing can undermine the authority of the leading families of the Res publica, so its against the state)
After Sulla's 2nd march on Rome, the Senate was literally half empty due to his purge on the Patricians and Equites, not to Mention Caesar (the one we know) from the Julii family (long faded by that time but still a patrician family) was put on Sulla's blacklist. So I wonder, if Marius and Sulla can get so many patrician and equestrian heads rolling, why can't the remanence of those family end up in brothels? Technically you can't sell Roman citizens into slavery, but prostitutes are different, need not to be slaves.
Does anyone remember how Crassus got so rich? :ROFLMAO:
 
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After Sulla's 2nd march on Rome, the Senate was literally half empty due to his purge on the Patricians and Equites, not to Mention Caesar (the one we know) from the Julii family (long faded by that time but still a patrician family) was put on Sulla's blacklist. So I wonder, if Marius and Sulla can get so many patrician and equestrian heads rolling, why can't the remanence of those family end up in brothels? Technically you can't sell Roman citizens into slavery, but prostitutes are different, need not to be slaves.
Does anyone remember how Crassus got so rich? :ROFLMAO:
so it is a possibility for her to become a prostitute then?

if so then atleast create some paths that lead prosperity rather than prostitution or slavery
 

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so it is a possibility for her to become a prostitute then?

if so then atleast create some paths that lead prosperity rather than prostitution or slavery
Not in our current plan. ;) Plus, if she'll become a prostitute, it will only be a result of your choice--players choice.
I don't think there will be prosperity under that circumstance, her entire family is basically on the blacklist of Marius, of course she can always decide to end her own life thus retaining her nobility and so on, but she has children/ families to care for.
Well, I guess our setting is pretty desperate for her. mainly because her husband fought on the wrong side (in the short term).
 

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so it is a possibility for her to become a prostitute then?

if so then atleast create some paths that lead prosperity rather than prostitution or slavery
Feel free to check out our main game tho, we will stick with strict vanilla content with our main game.
 

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Unfortunately my english is too limited to join a debate about this question Messieurs... :p (if you are a hungarian we can continue xD) But I keep my opinion about this question, i think (even in this chaotic period of the republican era) its not historically accurate to degrade a noble roman woman to prostitute. :) Btw, im on a porn game site, sooo if you want to turn this lovely blonde woman a prostitute, i gladly play this quality game in the future too :D
 
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After Sulla's 2nd march on Rome, the Senate was literally half empty due to his purge on the Patricians and Equites, not to Mention Caesar (the one we know) from the Julii family (long faded by that time but still a patrician family) was put on Sulla's blacklist. So I wonder, if Marius and Sulla can get so many patrician and equestrian heads rolling, why can't the remanence of those family end up in brothels? Technically you can't sell Roman citizens into slavery, but prostitutes are different, need not to be slaves.
Does anyone remember how Crassus got so rich? :ROFLMAO:
Caesar's aunt was married to Marius, Sulla's arch-enemy, and the mother of Young Marius, who took to the field as a consul against Sulla, and yet she was allowed to retire in genteel poverty. It just wasn't done to utterly humiliate a patrician, if one ever wanted to have status in Rome. And it wasn't done as a patrician to accept such humiliation.

Perhaps you might want to reconsider her being of the Cornelii if you want to reduce her (or allow herself to reduce herself) to the status of prostitute. There seems to be no pressing reason for her to be of Sulla's own family. If she were of a noble plebeian family (or even a non-noble but rich one), you'd have a lot more room to play with.
 

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Unfortunately my english is too limited to join a debate about this question Messieurs... :p (if you are a hungarian we can continue xD) But I keep my opinion about this question, i think (even in this chaotic period of the republican era) its not historically accurate to degrade a noble roman woman to prostitute. :) Btw, im on a porn game site, sooo if you want to turn this lovely blonde woman a prostitute, i gladly play this quality game in the future too :D
Not in our current plan sadly, we are just talking about the possibility and plausibility of such event taking place in a historical accurate world. ;)
 
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Caesar's aunt was married to Marius, Sulla's arch-enemy, and the mother of Young Marius, who took to the field as a consul against Sulla, and yet she was allowed to retire in genteel poverty. It just wasn't done to utterly humiliate a patrician, if one ever wanted to have status in Rome. And it wasn't done as a patrician to accept such humiliation.

Perhaps you might want to reconsider her being of the Cornelii if you want to reduce her (or allow herself to reduce herself) to the status of prostitute. There seems to be no pressing reason for her to be of Sulla's own family. If she were of a noble plebeian family (or even a non-noble but rich one), you'd have a lot more room to play with.
It's a porn game, not a documentary or an academic text. Historical accuracy matters exactly as much or as little as the developers want it to matter, and only 1% of the playerbase will care either way and probably not enough not to play it.
 

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It's a porn game, not a documentary or an academic text. Historical accuracy matters exactly as much or as little as the developers want it to matter, and only 1% of the playerbase will care either way and probably not enough not to play it.
I'm not sure why you uoted my post before this response. Nothing in my post would take away from your enjoyment of the game as porn. The developers clearly care about history, as they specify the exact family that the protagonist belongs to, and my post addressed only that (and, in fact, explicitly stated that making the changes I suggest could improve historicality without impacting the porn elements you care about). Or is you comment pure contrarianism?
 
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I'm quoting you because you seem unaware of how ridiculous it is to suggest a dev team completely rewrite their games story because of a minor historical fact that only a handful of people will know about and fewer still will care enough for it to impact their game experience.

One can even argue that the appeal of a supposedly incorruptible Roman patrician woman being degraded is part of the appeal of the story, historical accuracy be damned. The Romans themselves had stories like this about lustful noblewomen engaging in adultery with gladiators and others.
 

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I'm quoting you because you seem unaware of how ridiculous it is to suggest a dev team completely rewrite their games story because of a minor historical fact that only a handful of people will know about and fewer still will care enough for it to impact their game experience.

One can even argue that the appeal of a supposedly incorruptible Roman patrician woman being degraded is part of the appeal of the story, historical accuracy be damned. The Romans themselves had stories like this about lustful noblewomen engaging in adultery with gladiators and others.
You seem to be unaware of how ridiculous it is to suggest a dev team would have to "completely rewrite their games [sic] story" to change a single character's name. The story depends not at all on the character being a Cornelia, but rather on her being married to one of Sulla's generals (and he had no generals from the Cornelii, but I didn't mention that because it didn't matter).

You don't care about historical accuracy. That's fine. The devs do seem to, however, and so I mentioned some examples to show that they might want to make a simple change to allow them to keep their story and their historical accuracy. You seem to think that this makes my point "ridiculous." All I can say is that such absurd logic says a lot more about you than about my idea.

And adultery was widely accepted (though considered dishonorable) among noblewomen, but prostitution was not. Prostitution was an honorable occupation for a woman of the lower classes, but no noblewoman could have any but the most genteel profession without violating the mos maiorum. Other nobles would help her financially before allowing such a sacrilidge to threaten the well-being of all of Rome (as the case of Julia, aunt of the Julius Caesar, demonstrated).
 
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You seem to be unaware of how ridiculous it is to suggest a dev team would have to "completely rewrite their games [sic] story" to change a single character's name. The story depends not at all on the character being a Cornelia, but rather on her being married to one of Sulla's generals (and he had no generals from the Cornelii, but I didn't mention that because it didn't matter).

You don't care about historical accuracy. That's fine. The devs do seem to, however, and so I mentioned some examples to show that they might want to make a simple change to allow them to keep their story and their historical accuracy. You seem to think that this makes my point "ridiculous." All I can say is that such absurd logic says a lot more about you than about my idea.

And adultery was widely accepted (though considered dishonorable) among noblewomen, but prostitution was not. Prostitution was an honorable occupation for a woman of the lower classes, but no noblewoman could have any but the most genteel profession without violating the mos maiorum. Other nobles would help her financially before allowing such a sacrilidge to threaten the well-being of all of Rome (as the case of Julia, aunt of the Julius Caesar, demonstrated).
Let's not get into personal attacks, it is never ok. There is records of Roman noblewoman (During the age of empire Patrician status doesn't matter any more besides it allows you to get some religious job) actively engaging in prostitution just for fun.
 
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