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m4dsk1llz

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Mistress_Kixen with regard to Patreons, in my opinion the problem is a short-sighted view of revenue, some devs think the loss of a single donor is life or death, food on the table or starving. I don't know if RoyalCandy thinks this way, but it is just a very narrow view of what support is. You don't have to please everyone, you don't have to listen to everyone, the customer isn't always right. In this case, these people are not really customers, Patreon is just like any other crowd-funding platform, when you subscribe, you are donating to the dev because you like the work the dev is doing and what to see them continue and thrive. There should be no expectation by the donors that their whims will be satisfied.

With respect to NML, my favorite girl is Brandy, she is the only one that genuinely wants a relationship. I believe she is the only one that would be hurt by the MC's actions. Stephania wants to go slow then says 'fuck it, fuck me.' Jeane is a hypocrite and shows an incredible level of righteous indignation when confronting Phill. Amie is incredibly naive if she thinks a single purity test makes the MC a catch. Lizzie and Vanessa are sharing, really? The rest of the girls / ladies (Amber, Cecile, Anastasia, Diana, Saeki, Suzy, am I missing anyone) are, to put it bluntly, cum buckets for the MC. You can make him a vile, conniving person with no consequences up to and through episode 10. Now since episode 11 is the end, what we are going to see (I can almost guarantee this) is a rush to wrap up stories with a half-assed attempt to portray consequences for previous actions or a total cluster fuck where they all live happily ever after, with everyone pregnant. Just another typical VN.

And I still like this VN.
 

Penfold Mole

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for confirmation purpose only, do i take the whole files in the incest patch folder or just put the whole patch folder inside the game directory?
The whole 'patch' folder with everything in it, not just files from it.
 

Penfold Mole

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Yes, downloading the whole game because of those lines is somewhat... unreasonable. Releasing just ep10_convs.rpy or rpyc separately would have made more sense. 500KB vs 2.27GB :rolleyes:
 
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Drafox

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I didn't have any problems creating solo paths for Lizzie/Venessa/Brandy/Amiee/Stephania & Jeane - in fact I think if I you try you can just get away with only BJ's from Cecile (at the strip club) and Nichole (at home) if you want to as they're part of the story. It's all about the choices. For example - use the walkthrough mod linked in the OP and avoid the green answers that may lead to paths you don't want. Sure, you still have to interact with the other girls but you don't have to bonk them if you want to stay faithful.

I opted to go with answers to build up a relationship with all characters at the start and created separate paths after the party as I found it more convenient that way.

Thanks for the insight, but I already knew about that to be honest with you, what I consider a solo path is: You don't get physical with anybody else, which isn't the case here so without writing too much I'll leave it at that.
 
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Felicityskye

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Indeed I noticed that with the majority of the porn games I have played. I can't think of one that had the story 100% complete before hand and that is a shame seeing as quite a few of the games I have seen over the years would have been so much better had this happened.

One of the sad points about this game I have played was up until the most part I thought there were actually consequences and a 0% harem chance which is something that is quite rare in these kinds of games but sadly this isn't the case. that aspect was honestly there (at least with the main girls not including the stripper/teachers) until this latest BS where two of the main girls agree to share you.

Hell prior to this I was impressed that nicole the girl who seemed the most open to sharing as long as she had a peace of you made you choose between here and brandy seeing as Brandy's friendship with her meant so much. Plus after reading a post from before I blame the following for this.

1) the author for copping out. I mean I understand he is doing this for money, but at the same time had he not copped out I doubt he would have lost some of his patreons due to listening to the few who wanted more Porn with less plot.

2) The patreons who wanted more Porn with less plot. Seriously at said point in the story it was obvious that said game was a story driven game that while having porn had a structure and wasn't just a game where you could stick your dick into everything and there would be no consequences at any point. Why even suggest something like that in a game that was originally not going that route? If anything if they didn't like it I would have suggested abandoning ship and finding another game that works like this.
IMO the major problem is the aspect in how most of these types of games/VNs are made. The old days of creating a full game then releasing it, is gone. There is no need to do that when you can now crowd fund a "work in progress" game figuratively forever or until you get tired and abandon it. Because of this type of model there is usually no story gameplan and they wing it as they go making sure it is open enough to continue the "story" figuratively forever.

I love the whole crowd funding aspect when used right. There are a few examples of people using crowd funding to actually finish projects that would probably never have been made without the help of supporters. But there are way too many bandwagon amateur devs who at first look like they have a promising project, but ends up falling towards the quick payday then abandon or an easy way to milk money route.
 
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absalon1977

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damm mc life is getting complicated on manwhore route :) i wonder how many girls are going too end up wanting him dead lol joking aside looks like there will be some sharing endings, but what i am really looking forward too is jeanne discovering what the mc and lizzie have been up too, i actually hope that we will get a bad ending if you are on both lizzie and jeanne route, but lizzie talking about the reason behind her accepting too share him, makes me think that we could just get a typical porn harem ending with those 3 i would be fine with it, but still a bad ending could be interesting.
 

thealucid

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Thanks. Will I missing any content by not install the patch? Because in the patch page it say:

I can still fuck Jeane without the patch, right?
Yeah, just the creator really fucked up the buildup for the scene, unfortunately.

It's sad, because he had a great build up with tons of foreplay in the previous romantic sequence with Jeane which would have landed the sex scene perfectly. I'm not sure what happened, except it seems like he just decided to try and rush to finish the game. So the actual sex scene is this tawdry affair with little-to-no foreplay or buildup that comes off as just flat.
 
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Hysni

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I like this update but i had errors from start Mc'name is brian by default Lizy wakes you up and start from there
one more bug was at when try to enter fathers room :cool: (y)
Other that bugs i enjoyed so many scenes :love:
 

gunzen

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Are you being purposefully dense?

I don't know how simpler I can make it.

You pick a girl it's then up to you to decide what to do, not the story. The story is left open like that on purpose so people can do what they want. If you got put on a girls path you wouldn't be able to make any mistakes and choices wouldn't matter.
its the dev / writer, who makes the story. no matter what choice is made, it still depends on the way the story is written by the dev. again, the lack of story is what i am singling out. also, don't call me names. do you want to start name calling now?
 

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Before anyone asks about Vanessa's scenes, I don't post it since I don't have her path active... and here I only post pics I actually see while playing :p
I saw the scene when looking for the pics to post, and it was hot!
 
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