VN Ren'Py Nothing Is Forever [v0.7.3] [MrSilverLust]

[Andrea9999]

I am replying to all of the above:
First: As with myself, it seems just about everyone emphasizes Emma, Jen, and Lea.
Second: I was looking for a corrupting game emphasizing submission and depravity but as the game
develops (and it is very obviously not just how I play it because I often backtrack to briefly
explore other choices) the three above are too likeable for me to want to see bad things happen to them
or to see them disrespected. While it makes the game difficult for me, it does speak well to the skill
of the developer.
Also the others, save for Kim, are quite likeable, especially Olivia, but their proclivities do not mesh
with what I am looking for in a porn game.
So far I have the MC progressing with the three in a cheating way hoping there will be an erotic
resolution that does not hurt anyone's feelings. But that could be contradictory.

 

[Quetzzz]

especially Olivia, but their proclivities do not mesh
with what I am looking for in a porn game.

I have the feeling her mentality will change a bit over the coming updates.

 

[Turret]

First: As with myself, it seems just about everyone emphasizes Emma, Jen, and Lea.

Not quite! For me and several others the best girls in NIF are Lea, Jen and Olivia. I am very lukewarm about Emma as long as the only options with her are being a doormat or hatefucking, in addition her character is high maintainance and not free of the same chauvinism she accuses all men of.
Kim gets a special thumbs up, not for being likeable, but for being quite honest about being a selfish and selfserving person. You rarely have characters like her in games as a LI.

 

[Andrea9999]

I have the feeling her mentality will change a bit over the coming updates.

She seems a little too well centered to me. She faces her inner fears and insecurities in
a strong (yet light-hearted), introspective and independent way....even to the point of acting like a therapist
to the MC.

 

[Estius]

I am replying to all of the above:
First: As with myself, it seems just about everyone emphasizes Emma, Jen, and Lea.
Second: I was looking for a corrupting game emphasizing submission and depravity but as the game
develops (and it is very obviously not just how I play it because I often backtrack to briefly
explore other choices) the three above are too likeable for me to want to see bad things happen to them
or to see them disrespected. While it makes the game difficult for me, it does speak well to the skill
of the developer.

Yeah, this game definitely has some great character writing/development. Also, if you haven't already, you might want to try the other game in my signature. It might have a bit of what you're looking for.

 

[Andrea9999]

Not quite! For me and several others the best girls in NIF are Lea, Jen and Olivia. I am very lukewarm about Emma as long as the only options with her are being a doormat or hatefucking, in addition her character is high maintainance and not free of the same chauvinism she accuses all men of.
Kim gets a special thumbs up, not for being likeable, but for being quite honest about being a selfish and selfserving person. You rarely have characters like her in games as a LI.

I completely see your point. With Kim it just does not do much for me, though I am not
inclined to judge in that I do not actively look for morality in the characters in porn games.
Erotic things could develop with Kim. I had the MC reject her proposal b/c it did not strike me
as erotic.
I shared your distaste for the traits you mention with Emma, but I believe in Chp. 5 it begins
to ease off and because of the faults she has, she is the most likely candidate to be subject
to the depravities I seek in a porn game. Jen is way too impressive intellectually and Lea is too amiable.
So you see....Emma's drawback right now is my main hope for eroticism in this game...and I think it may be weakening.
As I mentioned above, Olivia's role to me, is to be the psychological guru; ironic, but she has the most hands on training.

 

[Quetzzz]

She faces her inner fears and insecurities in
a strong (yet light-hearted), introspective and independent way...

Except she was/is running away from a very big personal issue. Resolving this (I think) would open the way for more stability in her life.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

She seems a little too well centered to me. She faces her inner fears and insecurities in
a strong (yet light-hearted), introspective and independent way....even to the point of acting like a therapist
to the MC.

I kinda agree.....she's too balanced (as if that's a fault). It would develop her character to have some crazy come out - right now she's the "super cool girl without a fault". And yeah, they do exist, but usually there's something to at least balance it out.

 

[Quetzzz]

I kinda agree.....she's too balanced (as if that's a fault). It would develop her character to have some crazy come out - right now she's the "super cool girl without a fault". And yeah, they do exist, but usually there's something to at least balance it out.

Her red flags are promiscuity and not staying in the same place for too long. She's afraid to commit to something.
I've always seen her as our big sister, always ready with some insight or good advice. And, all things considered, she's probably the least damaged woman in this game.

 

[Andrea9999]

Except she was/is running away from a very big personal issue. Resolving this (I think) would open the way for more stability in her life.

If you mean the

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recognize that once that action is taken, it cannot be undone and that too much negative knowledge can unsettle even the strongest of minds. Perhaps it is best for her to see if her ambivalent feelings settle into one of the choices. (Though there can be a fine line between avoidance and patience.) Further, I did a brief search, and it does not sound like preemptive action can help, so the question is uncertainty vs. the double headed spectre of certainty.

 

[Quetzzz]

We are nearing the finish line although there's still a good amount left.

MSL said the final version will be 1.0, with each chapter increasing 0.1. So 3 more chapters to go! (Likely more than 3 releases though)

 

[Dessolos]

Not gonna lie it's gonna be a sad day when this AVN is over. This one is at the top when it comes enjoyment level and for me enjoyment > quality any day of the week.

 

[osanaiko]

I guess ultimately it doesn't matter much outside of dev time needed for these side chars, but maybe that dev time would have led to better routes with the main three and now Kim.

I'm not sure the game would hit the same without Olivia, Bri and Deb. Their existence and interactions with other characters (not just MC!) create a sense of a "friends group" that is essential to the vibe of the situation.

hmm, this comment now makes me ponder a Bechdel test for H-games - do any of the characters have significant interaction without MC being part of the conversation...

 

[Dessolos]

Honestly depending on what happens with Olivia in the next chapters. Personally I can see her being tied with Emma, Lea and Jen or just barley missing the mark for my favorite. (Tho Emma does have a slight edge right now for me to break said tie) Because Olivia has one trait I love in a LI where she is going through some shit where it just makes me want to be there for her or take care of her. Granted usually when a LI makes me want to be there for them they usually have some kind of trauma and it probably does works better with trauma. In Olivia's case it's refreshing to feel this for a LI that doesn't have some kind of serious trauma, I wont say she doesn't have any trauma issues but it isn't to the degree other LI have that make me feel this way.

If this game wasn't going to end potentially in 3 more major updates id say Olivia has a chance of being my favorite because her character development to me is starting to really take off in a direction that makes me really love her character alot but I don't think it will quite get there before the end but it will come close for sure I think.

 

[Bryan_Colt]

In my humble opinion Mc and Olivia should split the bill on some place since none of them can afford places of their own pretty sure Emma is going to throw a vase at him but in my humble opinion Olivia has it much worse then everyone else by far well for now also i can see Emma melt if she finds out about Olivia's story, but yes i want all the people in the group close except for the snake Kim if she leaves i'll open a champagne bottle also a much nicer girl can be found for that dude she is with... either that or the whole group should actually tame her once and for all.


Also i like the start of this game Honorable bla bla bla and Caos is a pit oh yeah baby.

Pure Gold right here, i am pretty sure in her mind is you damn jerk, actually she said idiot ha ha.

 

[Bryan_Colt]

Started a war path with Kim i like Red Hot Chilli Peppers also the music band.

The music in this game i like it more when i try other paths.


Also i am now sure the path i took will leave me with this over any relationship in the game.

a camera, a pair of panties, a guitar, a book, the black chess queen, a stethoscope, and a surf board if this is not

californication it sure is close tough.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Started a war path with Kim i like Red Hot Chilli Peppers also the music band.

The music in this game i like it more when i try other paths.


Also i am now sure the path i took will leave me with this over any relationship in the game.

a camera, a pair of panties, a guitar, a book, the black chess queen, a stethoscope, and a surf board if this is not

californication it sure is close tough.


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For me one rhcp song above all others would encompass Kim:


♫ if you see me getting high if you see me getting high knock me down ♫

♫ if you see me getting high if you see me getting high knock me down, i'm not bigger than life ♫

then the outro is basically MC

It's so lonely when you don't even know yourself... so lonely ♫♫



It's so lonely when you don't even know yourself... so lonely ♫♫

 

[Bryan_Colt]

Ok so Kim is the depiction of true evil she does not even lie about it she actually tells you that she enjoy being like that and seems her idea of a boyfriend is a pet which does everything she want her to do so her idea of a relationship is like the spider and fly.

“Will you walk into my parlour?” said the Spider to the Fly, “'Tis the prettiest little parlour that ever you did spy; The way into my parlour is up a winding stair, And I have many curious things to shew when you are there.”

 

[Porthas]

Ok so Kim is the depiction of true evil she does not even lie about it she actually tells you that she enjoy being like that and seems her idea of a boyfriend is a pet which does everything she want her to do so her idea of a relationship is like the spider and fly.

“Will you walk into my parlour?” said the Spider to the Fly, “'Tis the prettiest little parlour that ever you did spy; The way into my parlour is up a winding stair, And I have many curious things to shew when you are there.”

 

[Gicoo]

Ok so Kim is the depiction of true evil she does not even lie about it she actually tells you that she enjoy being like that and seems her idea of a boyfriend is a pet which does everything she want her to do so her idea of a relationship is like the spider and fly.

Alternatively, she is also interested in a "bad guy" that is as ruthless as her if even more.