VN Ren'Py Nothing Is Forever [v0.7.3] [MrSilverLust]

[LAKueiJin]

I'm confused though, I wouldn't call that gaslighting, I think of 'gaslighting' as someone trying to make you believe a false reality, but with Kim's femdom, it sounds very much like that BECOMES your reality. If it's the most humiliating hardcore femdom path in this game, this 'self-hatred, existential dread and deep-seated emptiness' sounds pretty congruent, not removed.

Granted I havent played the route because Kim causes my lunch to come up, so you know it better than me.

Good point. What I meant to say, and I think I worded it poorly there, is that the scenes are written so well it genuinely makes you feel bad for having made the horrendous choices you did so as to see Kim's femdom content - in essence, even if on that particular run you don't identify with MC at all, some of the scenes in the last chapter made me feel bad for the choices I had MC make, as if I had made them. (that scene with Jen was particularly sad - of course if I had played a "Kim only" submissive route MC would've hurt far fewer people by choosing her, but I didn't want to start more than the 3 playthroughs I've already got going , and so out of laziness on the full kim sub run I basically roleplayed a debauched and principle-less MC that would submit to all the LIs I was interested in)

Just to clarify, that was not me trying to complain about Mr. Silverlust's writing - I think it's great that he wrote vivid dramatic scenes that evoke deep feelings and get you to feel bad for his characters and regret the choices you've made in-game. It's more realistic than most porn game plots to see wide negative repercussion of your in-game actions on other people, so, if anything, I was trying to compliment his (in this case non-erotic) writing!

Apologies... no kinkshaming. Should have worded better. MC sounds pathetic. However, being called chad intant for expressing an opinion is bad style either.

I'd say my response was quite warranted for "expressing an opinion" in which you're essentially saying only the dom rountes aren't "pathetic". It's a pedantic opinion that assigns moral worth to kinks, so I'm not sorry for having been harsh on you originally.

Apology accepted though - if that's what you meant, I agree an MC that fully submits to Kim (and on top of that betrays several of his female friends that he was also dating at the same time...) is objectively both an asshole and pathetic, so no hard feelings.

 

[Andrea9999]

Good point. .... and all the rest...

I have a similar problem. I did one playthrough through chapter 6 as I have described before with Jen, Lea, and Emma in dom, depraved, misog routes respectively.... and it does not feel wholesome. Now I am doing a second with a vanilla relationship with Jen (which feels much better)...being or jockeying to be dom over Kim.... being honest with Lea but continuing with her (depraved) ....and going the misgoynist route with Emma. It feels better though still artificial. I am wondering if my MC is deceiving Jen...she never asks about other exclusivity...and the relationship with he ris secret.

 

[Dessolos]

I have a similar problem. I did one playthrough through chapter 6 as I have described before with Jen, Lea, and Emma in dom, depraved, misog routes respectively.... and it does not feel wholesome. Now I am doing a second with a vanilla relationship with Jen (which feels much better)...being or jockeying to be dom over Kim.... being honest with Lea but continuing with her (depraved) ....and going the misgoynist route with Emma. It feels better though still artificial. I am wondering if my MC is deceiving Jen...she never asks about other exclusivity...and the relationship with he ris secret.

yeah for me Emma doesn't feel wholesome until towards the end when she starts to be a bit playful and open up more with the MC. However that is when they aren't having sex not sure if she has a vanilla path yet to try. Speaking of I still need to play the vanilla path with Jen

 

[Andrea9999]

yeah for me Emma doesn't feel wholesome until towards the end when she starts to be a bit playful and open up more with the MC. However that is when they aren't having sex not sure if she has a vanilla path yet to try. Speaking of I still need to play the vanilla path with Jen

The annoying part of this game is that all of the female characters except for Kim are very likeable in my view. I think any unpleasantness from Emma is due to her own inner fragility.

 

[Skep-tiker]

I am wondering if my MC is deceiving Jen...she never asks about other exclusivity...and the relationship with he ris secret.

I don't think so. I'd bet some money that Jen as Sub is the one who will sooner or later require the cuckquean skill.

 

[Saman78]

What's the biggest crush? Does it really change the road, or just some dialogue during sex?

 

[ViperGts151]

Guessing im one of the minority that actually likes Kim then as looking at this thread a lot of people can't stand her character?(Though im on the dom/cheating route with her on my main playthough)

 

[Dessolos]

Guessing im one of the minority that actually likes Kim then as looking at this thread a lot of people can't stand her character?(Though im on the dom/cheating route with heron my main playthough)

yeah to me she is Vulvamort 2.0 cause of who she is as a person. Unsure if she gets better I doubt it but her personality was enough of a negative impression I didn't give her a chance. I will later once some updates happen and hope she opens up and maybe she gets better then cause im assuming she has some serious issues why she is the way she is.

 

[dolfe67]

Kim requires refined taste, it's not for everyone

 

[Cierne]

Guessing im one of the minority that actually likes Kim then as looking at this thread a lot of people can't stand her character?(Though im on the dom/cheating route with heron my main playthough)

I like Kim too. It's rare to see someone like her in games like this.

 

[Andrea9999]

I don't think so. I'd bet some money that Jen as Sub is the one who will sooner or later require the cuckquean skill.

*nod* perhaps. But I am thinking of my second (current) playthrough in which MC is in a vanilla relationship with her and has her as his real love.

Guessing im one of the minority that actually likes Kim then as looking at this thread a lot of people can't stand her character?(Though im on the dom/cheating route with heron my main playthough)

First ViperGts151: Please ignore this message as in do not read the spoiler unless or until you have finished chapter 5.
In my first playthrough I avoided Kim. But in my second (current) one, I also am going the dom route with her and finding it hot, but: so far (through end of chp 5) there

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. Have I missed any so far? I am only interested in those with MC as dom. Thank you!

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Kim requires refined taste, it's not for everyone

Hey I'm not gonna stop people from liking sardines, everyone has their own palate.

 

[ViperGts151]

*nod* perhaps. But I am thinking of my second (current) playthrough in which MC is in a vanilla relationship with her and has her as his real love.

First ViperGts151: Please ignore this message as in do not read the spoiler unless or until you have finished chapter 5.
In my first playthrough I avoided Kim. But in my second (current) one, I also am going the dom route with her and finding it hot, but: so far (through end of chp 5) there

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. Have I missed any so far? I am only interested in those with MC as dom.

So far no there are currently 5 scenes with Kim on the dom route one in ch4 one in ch5 two scenes in ch6 and one scene in the start of chapter 7 currently i will list what all scenes are in a spoiler below your choice if u want to view it.

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[SevySub]

Kim and Deb are the best characters imo

 

[harsha_26]

All talking about dark hardcore femdom with kim. Does it have same dark hardcore focus for maledom too with kim?

 

[Skep-tiker]

Unfortunatly it isnt really maledom, just rough sex with humiliatin her Boyfriend and Emmas friend with the abusive Boyfriend. If it wasnt for the Netori aspect, she could keep her unshaven cunt for herself...

 

[LAKueiJin]

Kim and Deb are the best characters imo

Don't forget Emma - I for one loved her first humiliation scene at the holiday house, (as well as the scene where she has you kneel and do all the girls' pedicure in the living room - subtle domination, but very hot imo) and her chemistry with MC as former rivals going all the way back to college, combined with her fiery personality and strong ideological views, make her a great domme as well! These are easily my top 3 girls, but I'd say, strictly for erotic femdom content, my list goes:

1. Kim
2. Deb
3. Emma (very close behind Deb)

Whereas for how much I like them personalitywise and how much I'd agree with their philosophy and politics, it's:

1. Emma
2. Deb
3. Kim (Kim has such ancap/libertarian vibes that I'd definitely disagree with her on almost everything - that said, she's still a great character to submit to for a more "hardcore" femdom run, the only Asian LI in the game, so that gives her quite a few bonus points AND, hot take, still a less despisable person than Jamie the dumb trustfund baby! )

 

[Skep-tiker]

Apart from her sexual preferences, Deb would be my favorite. The chemistry betweenher and MC is so well written. Fortunately there are the 2 non femdom sex scenes. Hopefully she will be sharing her new fucktoy with MC or make her watch in the future.

 

[Iblis]

do you guys know if it was mentioned or you think there might be more femdom kim scenes within part 2 of the update? I feel like we would be lucky but damn I cant wait to see what happens to MC

 

[Prime9287]

This story is so well developed, Deb had me make a sub playthrough just so I could make her happy.

Kim though is so morally wrong that I can't help having her as my favorite, as I wish I could find someone that accepts that part of me. The sub path leaves me cringing so bad.

Olivia seems the most normal of all the LI. She made her experiences and would be ready to settle down for a normal relationship I feel like.

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Can't wait to see what's next for them.