Jaga Telesin

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Pretty well aware it's in a somewhat "back" state, but games that get put on a shelf in favor of other stuff (or for extended RL breaks) rarely come back with a surge. If it does, great - it'll be the outlier. I'm not going to get my hopes up, done that before with other titles that were backseated, and it rarely works out well. I'll still think of it as being on life support for the interim.

NiF was a game I liked, and was really disappointed to see receive the Abandoned tag (along with official shelving). Not gonna get my hopes up again - if it happens, it happens.
 
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Meiri

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So I won't get to see Jenny get her pussy absolutely wrecked by some well-endowed stud anymore?

Damn there were so many potential sharing scenes especially with a more dominant partner like we talked about. Still atleast it will get an ending even if it's rushed.
Well, at least we'll get one scene of that, even if it's just one before the end. It's the same with Kim it's a shame both routes are ending at the payoff, right when everything was becoming most interesting.
 

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Pretty well aware it's in a somewhat "back" state, but games that get put on a shelf in favor of other stuff (or for extended RL breaks) rarely come back with a surge. If it does, great - it'll be the outlier. I'm not going to get my hopes up, done that before with other titles that were backseated, and it rarely works out well. I'll still think of it as being on life support for the interim.

NiF was a game I liked, and was really disappointed to see receive the Abandoned tag (along with official shelving). Not gonna get my hopes up again - if it happens, it happens.
Why do you say that, i didn't see anything saying she wasn't ? she's my queen :'(
 

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Anyway... I'm glad he's back. Be nice this time to the guy, guys...
I don't want anyone to ruin my Kim.

Also, @Silverlust, could you include Kim in your next update please? Come on, man.
Did you even read his return post? There's no mention of him specifically removing Kim or any other character from the update, the only thing he said is that some endings could feel more rushed than others but at this point if he plans to finish the story "soon" its unavoidable, but that doesn't mean they are just going to be cut from the story.
And Kim even appears in the preview post for chapter 8.
 
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Did you even read his return post? There's no mention of him specifically removing Kim or any other character from the update, the only thing he said is that some endings could feel more rushed than others but at this point if he plans to finish the story "soon" its unavoidable, but that doesn't mean they are just going to be cut from the story.
And Kim even appears in the preview post for chapter 8.
that's what i was thinking, maybe the " Not so much" under the kim pic, for me it was just te next line after " bri is always sweet , kim not so much" other than that i didn't see anything about it also
 

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Did you even read his return post? There's no mention of him specifically removing Kim or any other character from the update, the only thing he said is that some endings could feel more rushed than others but at this point if he plans to finish the story "soon" its unavoidable, but that doesn't mean they are just going to be cut from the story.
And Kim even appears in the preview post for chapter 8.
Chill man. Of course I've read. He said that Kim's content is "not so much". Don't take it too serious.
 

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I wonder if this chapter is going to be absolutely massive.

For most of the game, there really was one focus char in a chapter and/or a major common scene. I won't go through every chapter but Emma seemed to be the emphasis in chapter 1, then disappeared as Jen took center stage, and then there was a Deb focus, then some Olivia, and then recently it was mostly a Kim focus. Outside the focus chars there were at times small scenes continuing paths, but it would be less content than whoever the focus was on. Campfire, karaoke night and girls night out scenes were also major ones. I had multiple saves trying every path before, I have multiple now but a few I pruned. So when I first played Chapter 7 I went through everything and then felt it had been a little short, even with all of my routes put together. And then I realized it was a Kim focused one, primarily on the cheating routes, which was one I hadn't done on the sensitive side (I did do it in the manly route).

So with that in mind, I wonder how Chapter 8 will be. Brie hasn't had a focus chapter, but who knows with her, kind of seems too late for her. Olivia has enough for a good route for her but probably does not need to be focused on. I would speculate Kim would still have the most material, but she does close off other LIs so maybe that's already been resolved. I don't imagine another huge route popping up like that, that I would have skipped/missed out by having primarily char specific saves.

I don't want to get people's hopes up, but I could see Chapter 8 being massive, with each route being significant rather than a focus route and the others minimized. That would explain why it would take so long and MrSL feeling like he didn't do that much at times.

Or there could also be a "nobody" route that didn't really exist before, but is actually already within the game. There are a few times you can make a selection and there's a "bonus" selection of "nobody", assuming not getting involved with any LI. I kind of really like the potential idea of this one, because there's just so much psychology involved in that and a chance to really get into the char development and MC's myriad of issues and insecurities.

Pulling off the top of the skill tree is going to be hard in terms of the kinks. If MrSL really wanted to get that done, that's also going to require a lot. But I guess there can just be some throwaway and combination skills to just get them out of the way. I haven't bothered checking what skills haven't been used yet, but that's another interesting point to look at if you want to speculate. Will they all be used, will some be skipped? Which ones?
 
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Hi everyone,

For the next chapter the skill tree will be updated to better reflect the content in the game.

The old skill tree looked like this:


And the new one will look like this:


The biggest changes are in the honorable skills.
This group was always the hardest one to fit kinks with the personality. The sensitive and manly ones are easier, cunning also makes sense, but the honorable tree always felt a bit esoteric. So, I've decided to replace "Free use", "kinkster" and "Discipline", with "In front of others", "Group kink" and "Worship". I think these make more sense.

"In front of others" is a continuation of the "Exhibitionism" line and is self-explanatory. "Kinkster" was always weird and arbitrary, so, I replacing it with "group kink" makes more sense. This way, we have a new skill to use for the group sex scenes with more than 2 people. It's much easier to understand and have a much more defined purpose.
"Worship" is very similar to the "Idolization" skill that was present in the sensitive tree, but, moving it to the honorable tree means we can use it in a submissive or dominant context, making it more versatile.

That last change also frees up a spot in the sensitive tree. I decided to make all the inner corner skills related to the kind of relationships the player wants for the end. Things like: remaining in a relationship and being loyal; or cheating; or not wanting a monogamous relationship and preferring to stay promiscuous; and so on.
It seems like a good symmetrical way to tie all the personalities to different types of relationships/ends. This means that, in the manly tree, I have replaced "Own her" with "Promiscuous". The "Own her" skill was very restrictive. Besides, those types of relationships can still happen in game, without the need of a skill.

Still in the manly tree, I also replaced "Forced Orgasm" with "Over-stimulation", but this is just a name change, it will be used in the same scenes the same way.

In the Cunning tree, "Sadomaso" was replaced with "Findom". "Painplay" already covers that kink, and this opens up space for a new skill to be used a couple times.

All these changes also meant that some individual progression lines needed to be changed.
Here are highlighted all the changes to be clearer:


Besides this, I'm also retroactively changing the skills needed for previous scenes to better fit the new skills, but also some older ones.
For example, in the manly tree, we've already used "Dominant" a few times, while in the sensitive tree, we've never used "Submissive". Which I don't understand why I did that? I mean, if, for example, being pegged is not being submissive, I don't know what it is.
New skills like "Group kink" will also be added to previous scenes. Nothing of this will mess with your current saves, you can just continue them even if you don't have the skills needed for the previous scenes you already saw. Only the future scenes in chapter 8 will need them. New games will have everything correct from the start.

And, because there are now more standalone "Advanced Skills" that are not a continuation of a previous "Intermediate Skill", and that might be needed earlier in the story, I also changed the rules to unlock these skills. While previously you needed 4 total skills to be allowed to buy one of the "Advanced Skills", now you just need 3.
I hope this will make it less likely that someone gets locked out of a scene they want because they don't have enough points.

Cheers
 
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