Ferghus

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Personally, I never consider myself as the POV character or whatever. There's too many situations where the POV character says or does some dumb ass shit that I'd never do, and I'd be embarrassed to be that guy. But my enjoyment does not come from controlling or "being" that guy. It comes from seeing how this person interacts with the world, much like reading a book or watching a movie. I'd imagine that most guys wouldn't self-insert as the female protagonist regardless of whether or not they're in an adult game. But for whatever reasons, a lot of guys can't separate themselves when it comes to male protagonists or male victims.
It's extra weird to me, because real rape is scary as fuck, but most guys don't seem to have an issue when a girl in a game is being sexually harassed, groped in their sleep, or shrieking in misery as they're being penetrated. But a guy getting cucked is too much for them, for some reasons. Like where do you draw the line when it comes to empathizing with a fictional character?
 

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Personally, I never consider myself as the POV character or whatever. There's too many situations where the POV character says or does some dumb ass shit that I'd never do, and I'd be embarrassed to be that guy. But my enjoyment does not come from controlling or "being" that guy. It comes from seeing how this person interacts with the world, much like reading a book or watching a movie. I'd imagine that most guys wouldn't self-insert as the female protagonist regardless of whether or not they're in an adult game. But for whatever reasons, a lot of guys can't separate themselves when it comes to male protagonists or male victims.
It's extra weird to me, because real rape is scary as fuck, but most guys don't seem to have an issue when a girl in a game is being sexually harassed, groped in their sleep, or shrieking in misery as they're being penetrated. But a guy getting cucked is too much for them, for some reasons. Like where do you draw the line when it comes to empathizing with a fictional character?
yup I agree with you, I don't think forced sexual interaction could be an enjoyable experience for the victim like how these games and/or AV presents.......but here I am refreshing this thread every few minutes for hours......lol
 
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Personally, I never consider myself as the POV character or whatever. There's too many situations where the POV character says or does some dumb ass shit that I'd never do, and I'd be embarrassed to be that guy. But my enjoyment does not come from controlling or "being" that guy. It comes from seeing how this person interacts with the world, much like reading a book or watching a movie. I'd imagine that most guys wouldn't self-insert as the female protagonist regardless of whether or not they're in an adult game. But for whatever reasons, a lot of guys can't separate themselves when it comes to male protagonists or male victims.
It's extra weird to me, because real rape is scary as fuck, but most guys don't seem to have an issue when a girl in a game is being sexually harassed, groped in their sleep, or shrieking in misery as they're being penetrated. But a guy getting cucked is too much for them, for some reasons. Like where do you draw the line when it comes to empathizing with a fictional character?
Exactly, most of ''r***'' porn,specially anime,are very light compared to IRL stuff,so they can focus more on the mindbreak aspect of it.I couldn't enjoy most scenes from Rance or evenicle,because of how real it felt sometimes(THAT ONE SCENE IN EVENICLE THOU),props to the VA and staff that worked on that series,some stuff left me scarred for a fews days.
 
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Personally, I never consider myself as the POV character or whatever. There's too many situations where the POV character says or does some dumb ass shit that I'd never do, and I'd be embarrassed to be that guy. But my enjoyment does not come from controlling or "being" that guy. It comes from seeing how this person interacts with the world, much like reading a book or watching a movie. I'd imagine that most guys wouldn't self-insert as the female protagonist regardless of whether or not they're in an adult game. But for whatever reasons, a lot of guys can't separate themselves when it comes to male protagonists or male victims.
It's extra weird to me, because real rape is scary as fuck, but most guys don't seem to have an issue when a girl in a game is being sexually harassed, groped in their sleep, or shrieking in misery as they're being penetrated. But a guy getting cucked is too much for them, for some reasons. Like where do you draw the line when it comes to empathizing with a fictional character?
I understand what you are trying to say, I dont particularly like NTR, as there's stuff that even I find to be a bit too much, whoever i do take pleasure in the debauchery aspect of it. I don't even relate to the MC in these kinds of works simply because I cant understand the notion of knowing your partner is being taken advantage of and the MC is simply standing still, but like i said, i do revel in the debauchery. I guess this is better catalogued as "voyeurism" rather than anything else.
But for some reason I cant find the "rape" or "forced" tags appealing, I dont understand why, maybe its because there is no corruption going on as there is more the forceful imposing of one self over another, and I dont find that alluring at all, I suppose its because i find it to be more alluring to be given what you want willingly rather than have it taken by force, or maybe its simply because I'm squeamish and I find it fucked up, idk.
Incidentally I also take great pleasure in the reverse-corruption side of things, like de-bimbofying a Gyaru or stuff like that, "she lost to the cock so she shall find herself once more through the cock" kind of thing.
 
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I've done something similar once
You regret it for years - but only once you get caught
I think so too
got a friend who get himself BJ'd by a girl who already have boyfriend and really proud of it, i assume he act like that because never get caught
 

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Exactly, most of ''r***'' porn,specially anime,are very light compared to IRL stuff,so they can focus more on the mindbreak aspect of it.I couldn't enjoy most scenes from Rance or evenicle,because of how real it felt sometimes(THAT ONE SCENE IN EVENICLE THOU),props to the VA and staff that worked on that series,some stuff left me scarred for a fews days.
Agreed. But in the same sense, I feel like NTR porn is generally much "lighter" than real life too. In these kind of games, the victim is either none the wiser or witnesses the the full magnitude of the situation. In real life, there's a lot of manipulation, paranoia, doubt, etc (which is actually one of the strong points of Hero Party Must Fall) and typically the person being cheated on doesn't actually get much closure. Like if they really wanted to go for psychological damage, they could have the victim act like an actual caring human being capable of holding a relationship, and doing everything they can do save it when their SO starts acting distant. Or worse, make it so that the "bad guy" is actually a decent human being and the SO is actually happier with them. Like the actual thing people want in NTR isn't to be miserable, it's the over the top debauchery of the situation.

I understand what you are trying to say, I dont particularly like NTR, as there's stuff that even I find to be a bit too much, whoever i do take pleasure in the debauchery aspect of it. I don't even relate to the MC in these kinds of works simply because I cant understand the notion of knowing your partner is being taken advantage of and the MC is simply standing still, but like i said, i do revel in the debauchery. I guess this is better catalogued as "voyeurism" rather than anything else.
But for some reason I cant find the "rape" or "forced" tags appealing, I dont understand why, maybe its because there is no corruption going on as there is more the forceful imposing of one self over another, and I dont find that alluring at all, I suppose its because i find it to be more alluring to be given what you want willingly rather than have it taken by force, or maybe its simply because I'm squeamish and I find it fucked up, idk.
Incidentally I also take great pleasure in the reverse-corruption side of things, like de-bimbofying a Gyaru or stuff like that, "she lost to the cock so she shall find herself once more through the cock" kind of thing.
I consider myself to be in the voyeur category too. For me, playing these kind of games is like turning a page in the book. No matter what I do, the story will have a predetermined set of events happen. The story isn't going to change just because I refuse to turn the page. Even if you wanted to save one or more of the characters, you can't even attempt to without the story's permission. As for nonconsensual fetishes, I treat it like a spice. I like think it fits in some things, but not in others. Some people can eat whole ass peppers by themselves, but I'm not one of those people. People can like what they like, as long as they're not forcing it down other people's throats.
 

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Personally, I never consider myself as the POV character or whatever. There's too many situations where the POV character says or does some dumb ass shit that I'd never do, and I'd be embarrassed to be that guy. But my enjoyment does not come from controlling or "being" that guy. It comes from seeing how this person interacts with the world, much like reading a book or watching a movie. I'd imagine that most guys wouldn't self-insert as the female protagonist regardless of whether or not they're in an adult game. But for whatever reasons, a lot of guys can't separate themselves when it comes to male protagonists or male victims.
It's extra weird to me, because real rape is scary as fuck, but most guys don't seem to have an issue when a girl in a game is being sexually harassed, groped in their sleep, or shrieking in misery as they're being penetrated. But a guy getting cucked is too much for them, for some reasons. Like where do you draw the line when it comes to empathizing with a fictional character?
my main issue with a lot of ntr is that the male character may willingly choose to "share" his wife but will wallow in galactic levels of self-pity and anxiety. i understand that this may perhaps be a big draw for some, but I find it very annoying --maybe even disturbing-- because that anxious energy will just seep into me and put me in an extremely unpleasant mood. I tried lendable wife or whatever it's called and felt like this. to be fair though, i am just a very anxious person in general.

ultimately i only enjoy porn when the people in it are enjoying the acts, whether in a straightforward way or in a perverse way. the only way i can enjoy a scene that is dubious in its consent is if the character is portrayed as actually enjoying it. this is extremely problematic in real life because consent should never dubious or unclear, but i give myself a pass in fiction.
 
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Ferghus

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my main issue with a lot of ntr is that the male character may willingly choose to "share" his wife but will wallow in galactic levels of self-pity and anxiety. i understand that this may perhaps be a big draw for some, but I find it very annoying --maybe even disturbing-- because that anxious energy will just seep into me and put me in an extremely unpleasant mood. I tried lendable wife or whatever it's called and felt like this. to be fair though, i am just a very anxious person in general.

ultimately i only enjoy porn when the people in it are enjoying the acts, whether in a straightforward way or in a perverse way. the only way i can enjoy a scene that is dubious in its consent is if the character is portrayed as actually enjoying it. this is extremely problematic in real life because consent should never dubious or unclear, but i give myself a pass in fiction.
Both of those things are fine as long as you continue to acknowledge it's fiction. Like you're not a bad dude just because you like certain kinds of porn, and other people aren't bad dudes for liking porn that's too extreme for you. Like in my mind, I can enjoy these kinds of games because there's no way in hell real life works like this at all. Like I can enjoy a Marvel movie because none of that loss of life and collateral damage is real. I can enjoy horror films because none of the victims or monsters are real. You're experiencing some dude's imagination. In this game's case, some guy out there is pretending to be multiple characters at once, even the wife, to entertain you. This is all harmless entertainment as long as you don't take anything to real life.

Edit: You can even say there's already a certain level of established consent between you and the guy who makes the game. You can do those things to those people, because the person acting as all those people want you to do those things. It's a little gay, but it's the truth.
 
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I've literally just saw the Ci-en post and rushed to see if it was already available and instead i see a conversation about why NTR isn't very pog, i dont regret it.
 
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