Although the story development of 0.19.7 is crazy, Liz has only become more diverse with Matt's "action movies" and has not yet fallen into the trap of a slut. From the current development of the story, there is still a chance to return to a normal NTR storyline. I feel that in the future, there can be a character in the story who can tell the male lead about things, and then test whether the male lead is still willing to accept Liz in the NTR storyline, or develop from an NTR game into an incestuous world...After all, this is just a game.No NTS in lovers path means there's no point in lovers path.
The NTS part is awfully poorly implemented: you wanna see your wide getting fuck by strangers, it's not a fantasy about your wide cucking you with the only male character in this universe (who is apparently always in the same place as the FL).
NTS could be a game between lovers, it makes WAY MORE sense in lovers path than slut in heat loving being raped ...
Well, I don't really want to talk about the "story" but I'm pretty much let down by the stupidity of the last updates. The BS conspiration deus ex machina character plotting behind the scene and using a good guy to rape and fall in love with his victim (and there's more to come with the friend knowing it all) ... FFS, did you even read the retardness of this shit ? Raping leading to love in a first degree story ? It's a lakorn plot from before 2010, and that REALLY not a compliment.
Some pages ago someone said "I'll give up the moment liz is getting gang banged by everything", and I'm somewhat in the same boat with the story devellopment lately.
Honestly, this story should NEVER take itself seriously because either FL is a brain dead slut in heat and she deserved to end in a cave gang banged by 20 people OR the antagonist is simply a rapist and NEVER can you make a good guy/victim out of him.
At some point I had an idea: redo the sex scene with the ML and give a big cock (and that would help the stoopid dialogue "i miss your big cock => I now you do" with a guy so small he could mistake his little finger with his dick ... yeah, this scene was flabbergastingly dumb), let the story go as usual, and do a path when liz the slut ends in the gutter as a 5$ prostitute while MC is banging blondie and leading a happy life with somone who isn't a SHPOS.
All in all, and to continue what the other guy said: I think it's time to end the game because it's becoming ridiculous and the complete opposite of what it was in the beginning.
Plus, seeing how succesful and well made the beginning was, mister shouldn't have any problems launching a new game AND with everything he learned he could start a project with a bigger foundation leading to a more ambitious game (with a potential Steam release, leading to a lot more sales ?).
Sorry if that looks hateful or agressive, but I do hate wasted potential and in the biblical catastrophic era of NTR AI slop this one has all it needs to raise the bar instead of lowering it like the two thousands other.
And BTW: good for the dev he is making a shitload of money while keeping the story as it is (conspiration and whatever), that's all one could wish for.
ps: yes, liz deserve to end alone giving 2$ blowjob on the highway to pay for crack.
pps: now that I think about it, maybe NTS should be RESERVED for the lovers path and CUCKING for the slut path. Because there's no reason for a shared sex game with a slut treating her so called boyfriend like a dog shit and cucking makes perfect sense with a slut in heat treating her so called boyfriend like dog shit.
pps: ... damn, I despise liz beyond reason now. XD
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Well, we are talking about two different things. The first is if long-term sexual blackmail happens in the workplace. I take it we both agree that it does. The second is a difference of opinion on if the victim can develop feelings for the abuser. On that we seem to disagree so that is what I will focus on.
The game clearly portrays Matt as a narcissist. I'd read up on relationships with narcissists where their victims suffer all kinds of abuses but the victim still claims to love the narcissist. The blackmail only served to get a foot in the door. The characteristics of the narcissist is what transform the relationship. I'll also add that this is only on one of the paths. On the other two paths, the girlfriend still hates Matt but has just accepted the situation of the blackmail. This is also common, as downplaying the severity of sexual abuse is one common coping strategy to minimize the emotional impact of it. Self-blame, self-doubt and not wanting to reveal the abuse due to a sense of shame are other coping strategies. Matt states that the abuse will occur over a limited amount of time, leaving the victim to decide if they should just wait out that limited time so they can forget about the abuse after the timeline has expired, or expose the abuse, and forever be known by everyone as a victim of abuse and never be able to forget about it because you know it will always be on everyone else's mind. If they wait it out, the situation becomes normalized for the victim. The anxiety of being frequently assaulted gets replaced with a numbness, which is how the victim copes.
Just like with Stockholm Syndrome, once a situation becomes normalized and the victim has regular contact with the abuser, the victim can start to identify with the abuser's perspective and, in some cases, even a desire to protect the abuser. Couple that with the fact that Matt has the superficial charm and the insight into how to manipulate people common in narcissistic personalities, I would say what is happening in the game is not a totally impossable situation. The appeal of the relationship between the girlfriend and Matt seems to be that Matt is more exciting than her current partner. This is also the appeal that many people say they find attractive in narcissists. I also get the sense that this isn't Matt's first rodeo and it seems that he knows the psychological process required for the victim to experience in order to make this happen.
A second, simpler explanation that is kind of taboo in sociology/psychology circles (because it is considered blaming the victim), and the situation I subsribe to (because my first situation kills my boner) is that the girlfriend is a willing participant due to her being repressed and Matt is pushing her boundaries in ways the MC doesn't. For her, the blackmail situation is just a convenient way of avoiding responsibility for experiencing her actual desires. Matt could just have recognized this and is in effect "topping from the bottom", basically recognizing her needs and desires and providing them to her in a manner she will accept them, breaking through all the social stigmas preventing her from engaging in this activity before. Of course, this isn't altruistic for Matt, as he is doing this to establish his own control. The difference in this situation is that the gf is a willing participant, even if she will not admit it even to herself. If this is the case, resentment towards the MC is reasonable, as her perspective is that Matt could figure this out when the MC couldn't, making Matt superior. So essentially this is a consentual non-consent situation, and in reality, when everyone is being 100% honest with themselves, no blackmail is even taking place. Matt's success with being women's best sex ever may be just because he is good at recognizing what a woman really wants sexually, what is preventing her from getting what she wants sexually, and how he can break down those barriers preventing her from getting what she wants. This also addresses all questions like "why didn't the gf do this or that?" The answer is because she doesn't really want to, and deep down, she wants the situation to continue even if she won't admit it to herself on a superficial level.
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You seem to forget that she is asking advices on how to get out of this situation on a forum (at least on Lovers/happy)
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Cognitive dissonance is a psychological term that describes a situation that occurs when a person's behavior and beliefs do not complement each other or when they hold two contradictory beliefs. It causes a feeling of discomfort that can motivate people to try to feel better. People may do this via defense mechanisms, commonly using avoidance. In this case, she may be going on forums and asking for advice to try to get out of her situation to tell herself she's trying to do something about it, knowing as she does it that she is very unlikely to receive any helpful advice. If she receives solid, actionable advice on the forum, takes the advice, and makes an actionable plan to get herself out of the situation, then we'll talk. Even then, I doubt she'll take any action until the MC finds out and she is forced to make a choice between her relationship and the situation with Matt. She won't do it on her own.
Irocically enough, cognitive dissonance is a real life and common phenomina. People's actions often aren't congruent with their expressed beliefs in real life. I see this called unrealistic, bad writing all the time on these forums. Hell, issues around sex probably create more cognitive dissonance in people than any other situation one is likely to encounter. Issues around cheating and NTR probably amplify that likelihood by several orders of magnitude. We SHOULD be seeing inconguuities in how people behave in NTR and cheating stories. Not having them occur is extremely unrealistic. According to many people around these parts, The Sopranos must have been the most poorly written TV show ever because it consisted of a whole bunch of people often talking about how much they respect honor and integrity, but then often acting dishonorably and without much integrity.
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If she was able to get herself out of this situation alone, it would remove the purpose of the game which is as Nosy said "Save the girl".
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I'm not seeing what your point is? It originally seemed to be that this particular story was unrealistic. Are you now saying that ALL stories are unrealistic because narritive structure dictates that they have things that need to be acomplished within the story?
Always remember one thing:
NTR worlds don't follow our logic, so trying to make sense of it is futile.
NTR worlds don't follow our logic, so trying to make sense of it is futile.
My point is that you are trying to put too much real life logic into something that is only a porn game.
Maybe, but it is good to have a choice! Many ways what you can play in what mood you like
Ok, maybe I was wrong in saying it was impossible, because you just exemplified that, indeed, is possible, you have more knowledge in terms of psychology than I do, and if my memory doesn't fail me and neither do my psychology classes,
sexual abuse has been identified as a significant risk factor for the development of hypersexuality, so i give you that point, i was wrong in saying it was impossible the blackmail
But, i remain firm that in my hypothetical example is more credible and maybe even more immersive to the players
I also noticed that you assume a little bit to much, because of what we know, Matt doesnt do it because he wants to but because he was ordered to, and that can also apply to the other girls corruption but i respect your way to play the game, everyone is free to play and fill the voids whatever they want, just like advice, dont overthink to much
What are these novel long paragraphs of real life logic for a NTR game where the dev is playing out a story he has had finished in his head? Its fiction lol let him do his thing.
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I understand you bro...well explained... but he want reality in a porn game... like how much pizza delivers are raped by hot milfs...hehehehe
I understand that don't worry. But i think you have gone a little to far in your explanations for just a porn game
.Hello again, everyone!
I hope the first half of the week has been kind to you all. If it has, that’s wonderful! If not, maybe Sam can brighten your day a little.
Over the past few days, I’ve been busy upgrading almost every aspect of the game (successfully, I might add)! With these improvements in place, I’m now considering speeding up the next free release of NTR Mobile. This update would include the quality-of-life improvements but not the story or content of v0.20.
I’m still on the fence, but I’m leaning toward a "yes" because I believe this will provide a smoother experience for everyone. Plus, these updates include some important bug fixes that both the free version and v0.20 will need to run properly.
Just wanted to keep you all in the loop! Today’s an office day for me , I am not able to work on the game on workdays but on office days I am particularly silent. Fingers crossed, I’ll pick up the pace again by Friday.
In the meantime, enjoy Sam’s office day and thank you all for being so amazing!
I hope the first half of the week has been kind to you all. If it has, that’s wonderful! If not, maybe Sam can brighten your day a little.
Over the past few days, I’ve been busy upgrading almost every aspect of the game (successfully, I might add)! With these improvements in place, I’m now considering speeding up the next free release of NTR Mobile. This update would include the quality-of-life improvements but not the story or content of v0.20.
I’m still on the fence, but I’m leaning toward a "yes" because I believe this will provide a smoother experience for everyone. Plus, these updates include some important bug fixes that both the free version and v0.20 will need to run properly.
Just wanted to keep you all in the loop! Today’s an office day for me , I am not able to work on the game on workdays but on office days I am particularly silent. Fingers crossed, I’ll pick up the pace again by Friday.
In the meantime, enjoy Sam’s office day and thank you all for being so amazing!
Can you also give a proper up to date walkthrough to get every pic in the game. What makes this game spicy is the feeds. Just getting gallery full is not fulfilling
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