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You can make a good NTR game where there is mind control, for it to be good the mind control would have to be something progressive, something suggestive I would say, at least at the beginning, this way there would be an acceptable sense of corruption.

The problem is that most developers who put together NTR with mind control turn female characters into 0-100 whores where there is no sense of corruption progress, that's why most of these games usually suck.
This feels more of a result of NTR becoming a "shovelware" genre. Too saturated, so there's a lot of low quality stuff.
 
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Seven Soft

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I stumbled upon work by Yamabatake, and i'm wondering if there is any game/VN with a similar style of Netorare as that?

The narrative trait i'm looking for specifically is the story's absence of a significant male antagonist character (except the Love Interest herself, if she's even considered an antagonist). Evoking the sense that it is the "environment" that is organically corrupting the Love Interest, and not some pathetically-obsessed wannabe villain.

The Love Interest being a great liar is also always a nice touch, adding to the contrast between her seemingly wholesome persona and the debauched experiences.
 
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I wanted to take a look at . The latest version is v.2.02 but I also have earlier v1.3 (there were 2-3 updates in total I think as per Dlsite).

I have a problem with the latest version - once I install XUnityAutotranslator (be it Reipatcher, Bepinex or MelonLoader) it starts to double the text in the original script, and in the translation too, accordingly. Tried various versions of XUnityAutotranslator, mean like latest v4, lastest v3 versions. v1.3 of the game has no such issue.

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It's quite translatable once XUnityAutotranslator fills in the autotranslation txt file with original script. One or some of other Mekujira games were released here like that (Reipatcher). So it'd be probably a shame to use not the latest version, if it comes to that, and if there is a way to fix the issue. Or probably translation could be done in a way 2x original text = 1x translation, but it's kind of a hassle and I'm not sure if all the other players have the same issue or not (if not - such way of translating v2.02 just won't work for them).

So -

1) Can somebody tell if you have the same issue?
2) Is there a working fix for this, that somebody aware of? Maybe from your experience with other game(s)? Something in the settings (cfg file)?
3) Anybody knows what differences are there between v1.3 and v2.02? Latest version seems to have some QOL improvements, but weighs a bit less and looks more blurry to me. The most important question - was there some content added? (Think not, just probably touched some existing pics?)
4) Is there a translation request thread here, can't seem to find it?



 

zebucetiva

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Mind control is the worst form of “NTR.”
I swear I get more NTR from lending my coffee machine to my sister.

It’s so shit, I hate it when great characterization gets ruined by this lazy trope.
I hate mind control in NTR too, but what i hate even more is ntr through rape.
Rape is completely different from classic coercion.
For example: there are countless doujins of FMC who loses a judo match, gets raped, and ends up "loving the dick". That's garbage.
A completely different situation is what happens to the pink-haired FMC from Dark Hero Party, (I don't remember exactly how it goes anymore, but it's basically her being slowly corrupted while trying to save her friends)


Of the last few games I've played, the one with the best form of corruption was CCTV. The gaslighting MC does to his wife is brilliant... guilt, anger, little suggestions on bed and dinner talk... I don't remember seeing anything like it in other games.

Even though, in a way, it's you (MC) pushing the FMC towards corruption, the core of how it's done, for me, is almost unmatched. We need more gaslighting NTR
 

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I stumbled upon work by Yamabatake, and i'm wondering if there is any game/VN with a similar style of Netorare as that?

The narrative trait i'm looking for specifically is the story's absence of a significant male antagonist character (except the Love Interest herself, if she's even considered an antagonist). Evoking the sense that it is the "environment" that is organically corrupting the Love Interest, and not some pathetically-obsessed wannabe villain.

The Love Interest being a great liar is also always a nice touch, adding to the contrast between her seemingly wholesome persona and the debauched experiences.
I also like when the whole village/school/town is a character in itself pretty much. For non netorare you kinda have country bumpkin yukata and games from Lovely pretty loving you. For ntr I guess mischief island kinda counts? Though that does kinda have some more prominent characters (they all do), but overall it feels more like the whole town is in on it and has its own character.
 
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My most anticipated release ever and the dev decided to go MIA a few months prior to full launch.

Link: https://f95zone.to/threads/between-...rj322734-dh-files.83223/page-14#post-16086912

The demo alone was better than some of these shovelware NTR titles.

Judging from the amount of hidden NTR in the demo, there was going to be some insanely good content too :cry:
7 days to go til dev went MIA for exactly a year, their last post on Ci-en was about their family passing
 
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kyotheman101

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Given that you like Lesbians Getting Dicked (your list is cool), It's funny that your ntr list is so man-oriented.
And I look for certain types of females in the ntr stories, and the bull is not even that important.
  • Older Sister (mother and younger sister are fine too, but less interesting). Examples: The Curse of Pleasure
  • Princess-Knight (just noble/queen/princess or just adventurer/fighter/knightess are fine too, but less interesting) Examples: Golden Cynicism
  • Boss Lady (better CEO, but teamlead or female teacher or at least school student president - are somewhat fine too) Examples: A Promise Best Left Unkept
Tbh, I look for these types, whether it's ntr or not.

As for a specific fetish, you know - something reverse to the lesbians dicked - girls forced to lesbian things.
Female helper trope is somewhat fitting - manga and anime are a fine example. Another fine example - is the approach in Something Unlimited.
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But the best would be 2 girls hating each other, but forced to kiss and strap-on each other, while being fucked by the bull. Or not hating each other, but hating the act, because they're mother and daughter.
Can anyone recommend anything like that?
NTR Knight is actual NTR, Golden Cynicism is not, you don't have relationship with the princess
 

kyotheman101

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I don't get how many people here are talking about great NTR releases last year and no one mentions Mirage's defection or Rina Test
Never heard of first one, Rina Test is that Pixel only hentai just not fan of, reminds me of that Chronicles one, was kind of "meh"
 

Seven Soft

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I also like when the whole village/school/town is a character in itself pretty much. For non netorare you kinda have country bumpkin yukata and games from Lovely pretty loving you. For ntr I guess mischief island kinda counts? Though that does kinda have some more prominent characters (they all do), but overall it feels more like the whole town is in on it and has its own character.
Exactly. Yes technically i do not mind the story having a relatively prominent character; i just don't want them to be a cringeworthy maniac who is obsessed with corrupting the female Love Interest. Since i want the corruption to be just an organic resultant of the girl trying to fit in/assimilate to the local culture.

Although i will admit now that the underlying idea i've been tiptoeing around all this time is:

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As is contextualized by the above; i'm trying to see a Netorare story which captures this premise. More specifically, a folly about a dude who (severely wrongly) thinks he can have a "cool" girl be his faithful girlfriend. Only to be betrayed by her as she's trying to strike the impossible balance between being the wholesome girlfriend he wants and trying to fit in (to her ipso facto hypersexual social environment and consequently another man's lap). I believe this is a very grounded and realistic narrative premise.

So the entity who "cucks" him is actually the environment itself, and not necessarily a pathetically-obsessed dork who is hellbent on stealing his girl. Now that i think about it, i feel like this idea of Netorare i'm trying to picture is just the average backstory of so-called "redpillers".

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Seven Soft

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That's a fair but loosely accurate caricature to what i'm alluding. But the general premise is correct (i suppose).

The discrepancy between that caricature and the idea i'm alluding to is that in the caricature, the fucking happens before the love interest willfully forego being faithful to the MC. I'm trying to allude to the idea of Netorare where the love interest thinks (or rather, be led to think) it's socially more advantageous to dabble into/entertain the adultery than it is to actually be faithful to the MC. So she consciously chose to cheat on the side, while keeping an appearance of faithfulness to the MC. That's where the amusement is for me.
 
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