Recommending NTR, netorare, cuckold - resources, discussion, development

[Yambidexter]

1) Lists
https://f95zone.to/threads/mygamelist-corruption-ntr-heavy-list-update-12-19-22.51406/
https://f95zone.to/threads/netori-games.20817/
https://f95zone.to/threads/bully-mother.58474/

Check Pretentious Goblin posts - he likes to look for/recommend games.

2) Resources

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- has NTR thread too with unique links sometimes available e.g. Henteria 1/2 v20$+. Has search feature!

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- has search too!

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- search. Got Engraved Pleasure v1.10 I asked a couple of pages ago before the first two, must be good?

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- Torrents, search in browser by name/developer/Dlsite № etc.

Others, some has tag search

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- has tag search, mostly VNs, not the newest ones perhaps but it has fast 1fichier.com download, I stop by rarely when I want to download some older VN

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- it's VNs too, I stop by rarely searching for a VN description missing otherwise. Though I think Getchu almost always has descriptions and you can get a link to it from VNDB.

So kinda please look at these if you search for a released game first, then if you can't find what you're looking for think some more and maybe post here.

3) Sharing DLsite/download links to new released games/projects. Valid per se, as it helps to learn about new games and/or get download links simultaneously, but - people have been posting links to shit rated by DLsite 2.x/3.x. Cmon, anyting rated there below 4.5 usually isn't playable. If everybody start to post links to random/all shitty new NTR releases this thread will turn into outhouse in no time.

4) Asking for links for released games/finished projects. See my previous post. Some might say that it helps them to find about new games. IMO - usually lazy newcomers ask for older games, not valid, turn into outhouse. New decent games got links posted here as per 3) so people who visit regularly are up to speed with these games.

5) What's left uncovered is 'I/we need a hero' when a new version of non-English game in development gets released, e.g. one of these half a dozen games by Scatcha developer. Don't know how to go about that; they sometimes ask for it for a few times in a row like here #4,861, they either can't read the very previous post or think that it will have more impact if they call for a hero many times over, who knows. But I think that if there is someone in this thread who has access to a new release and is willing to share it with his fellow NTR enthusiasts will do so (especially if the project got shared/discussed previously), and if not - then no amount of 'need a hero' will change that.

Hope this helps this thread to stay cleaner and more impactful. Merry Christmas to those who celebrate it today.

 

[Princess Groundhog]

Sharing DLsite/download links to new released games/projects. Valid per se, as it helps to learn about new games and/or get download links simultaneously, but - people have been posting links to shit rated by DLsite 2.x/3.x. Cmon, anyting rated there below 4.5 usually isn't playable. If everybody start to post links to random/all shitty new NTR releases this thread will turn into outhouse in no time.

I wish people shared more games that are good Western English games.

 

[Febui]

good Western English games.

I wish they existed.
Western NTR is so awful it makes the entire genre reek like shit. It's hard to find one that isn't AWFUL.
Though there are a few. Mostly easy-going netorase, but Secret Care Café is solid. The art style is much less offensive to the eyes than most 3D, the writing is decent, the gameplay works. Nothing really fails there.
Eh.... Fleeting Iris is well executed, even if it doesn't appeal to me personally. Plenty of common NTR tropes done well for what it is, and if you like the common stuff then it's a good example of it. Super weak gameplay.
And now I've run dry on examples of good western NTR.

Usually, for western NTR, there's no gameplay(so it shouldn't be called a game), the writing is actually as bad as partially edited MTL, the characters are bad, the """art""" is so horrible that it would be immensely improved by being a text-based game, and really sucks to experience.

 

[LazwelX]

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this is a resource thread where people come to discuss and find ntr games that they may or may not be aware of, also no one wants to slog through all the pages to find a game to fap to. i personally dislike when someone comes into the thread to ask about a specific thing thats been clarified 2 pages back like asking if something has been translated but im more lenient because i give them the benefit of the doubt thinking maybe theyre looking for something they cant find elsewhere or theyre loking for a quick mega link where the download wont take 3-4 hours like some other sites. also the requests arent as rampant as you make them out to be.

 

[DustSans]

Hello, could someone share their complete save of this game

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[Dheiwkdjmj]

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Has this game finished yet guys?

 

[Ivriktwo]

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Has this game finished yet guys?

I checked it a bit. I can´t see any NTR in that game

 

[Shigeru Miyamoto]

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Anyone managed to figure out what to do after the MC sees someone go underground?

I can't figure out the entrance to the underground.

I even double checked the secret room under the stairs.

 

[Varimir]

Found something interesting and kind of similar to xi521

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[lookatall]

Anybody happen to watch that Bad Santa 2 movie?

Has a tiny bit of bored housewife Christina Hendricks corrupted by dirty old man, I'm only talking a few minutes of scenes in a 90 minute movie, but still fun.

 

[ktez]

Anyone managed to figure out what to do after the MC sees someone go underground?

I can't figure out the entrance to the underground.

I even double checked the secret room under the stairs.

Can you share the link? It expired.
Edit: Nvm

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[Zadke]

Anyone managed to figure out what to do after the MC sees someone go underground?

I can't figure out the entrance to the underground.

I even double checked the secret room under the stairs.

You need to go to the second floor and in one bookshelf is the button to open the entrance, you got 20 seconds or something like that to reach it

 

[Kulman]

I wish people shared more games that are good Western English games.

Well there is usually no need for that, because such games are just released on this site anyway, so they have their own threads for discussion etc.

As for the requests for bad games... I kinda blame dlsite weird rating system. I dont know if they are fixing the reviews or what, but most games on the site are above 3,5, where 3,5 should actually be 0.

Anything above 4,5 is worth playing. Anything between 4,3-4,5 might be worth playing. Most of stuff below that is sadly just trash.

Now I know that from personal experience, but if someone new comes upon dlsite, they will rightly assume that something being rated 4 out of 5 is a pretty great score.

 

[Yambidexter]

Well there is usually no need for that, because such games are just released on this site anyway, so they have their own threads for discussion etc.

That's exactly what I assumed and so didn't mention these games - games that are being developed in English (if that's what is meant by Western) or translated ones appear here on F95 (not all perhaps but decent and being requested by people) so virtually none of them is subject of 'need a hero/need a link' queries. Well, in this thread at least - separate games' threads are different stories.

also the requests arent as rampant as you make them out to be.

I woldn't say rampant of course, but somehow it felt to me they were on the rise over the past few weeks, maybe 2-3 months?

 

[TheOneWho Watch]

Hello, could someone share their complete save of this game

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havent play it yet however if im not mistaken someone on this thred did says that this game cg generate using AI is it true? or is it other game

 

[En89]

havent play it yet however if im not mistaken someone on this thred did says that this game cg generate using AI is it true? or is it other game

Not sure about the CGs being AI-generated but the quality/style was fine imo. Game is pretty short though and there aren't many CGs in total. Played it yesterday evening and wasn't that excited about it.

 

[drowsy]

I wish they existed.
Western NTR is so awful it makes the entire genre reek like shit. It's hard to find one that isn't AWFUL.
Though there are a few. Mostly easy-going netorase, but Secret Care Café is solid. The art style is much less offensive to the eyes than most 3D, the writing is decent, the gameplay works. Nothing really fails there.
Eh.... Fleeting Iris is well executed, even if it doesn't appeal to me personally. Plenty of common NTR tropes done well for what it is, and if you like the common stuff then it's a good example of it. Super weak gameplay.
And now I've run dry on examples of good western NTR.

Usually, for western NTR, there's no gameplay(so it shouldn't be called a game), the writing is actually as bad as partially edited MTL, the characters are bad, the """art""" is so horrible that it would be immensely improved by being a text-based game, and really sucks to experience.

I've yet to find a good Japanese NTR game. Granted, I generally don't really like anime/manga -- way too convoluted and nonsensical -- and the same mostly holds true for Japanese games.

There are good western NTR games but not the ones you mentioned, in my opinion. Recent/in progress good ones include A Promise Best Left Unkept and Turning the Page, as well as (mostly) the Henteria games. Also pretty good, and beginning to approach NTR, is Star Knightess Aura. The negative qualifiers used for the last two is because those games are inspired by Japanese games and so also have some overly convoluted and unrealistic writing/gameplay in them. Still, they're better than anything I've played by a Japanese developer. When a girl makes a fucking "peace sign" with her fingers as she's getting fucked I want to punch the monitor, lmao. It just becomes very silly and uninteresting.

 

[Princess Groundhog]

That's exactly what I assumed and so didn't mention these games - games that are being developed in English (if that's what is meant by Western) or translated ones appear here on F95 (not all perhaps but decent and being requested by people) so virtually none of them is subject of 'need a hero/need a link' queries. Well, in this thread at least - separate games' threads are different stories.

But we need links to those thread to know about them.

 

[Febui]

I've yet to find a good Japanese NTR game.

That's a fair point. Visually, the average is magnitudes better, but that's a low bar and also really tertiary to writing and gameplay. An example I'd point to as great in all three respects is Abaddon: Princess of the Decay.
While the writing takes a dip, especially with how it teases nearly good NTR only to rip it away and give you generic rape NTR instead, Leane 2: Leane of Legitimate Crown is also good. The gameplay on a harder difficulty is fairly solid, there's a lot of variety, some fun tactics, if all somewhat half-baked. If there was a third entry, I imagine it'd be really good because of ironing out the roughness.
It's tough... I think about so many I don't like, but then I realize they're still better than nearly all the western NTR I've come across. Arms Devicer! has solid enough characters and really good set up, but then drops the ball hard with scenes that just summarize a bunch of events happening and basically skip it all. It does a lot to prepare good relationship dynamics with your motherly/older-sisterly friend that cares for and loves you and your much rougher friend who is licentious and playful, and certainly the type to tease the motherly one when she flirts with you. With gameplay that is average, writing that is unfinished, and characters that have a lot of promise, it's not recommendable at all, but it's still better than Femdom Wife or Sarah's Life or Girlfriend's Amnesia or Incest Story or... So on. It's a bit of a bitter feeling to me. I love NTR, but so overwhelmingly disappointed in the choices available. Gameplay is often bad. Characters are often terribly uncharismatic and retarded. Western's biggest problem is the abundance of grotesque, horrible, downright offensively bad 3DCG. Make them text-based instead, for the love of god.

There are good western NTR games--A Promise Best Left Unkept and Turning the Page, as well as (mostly) the Henteria games.

Since the first two are labeled "VN" I never checked them out, since 99% of the time, that's not a game. Sometimes they are, but since it's unlikely, I can't bother to sift through them all.
So, I can't attest to them.
Henteria is definitely weak on the gameplay front. there's little to none of it. The writing was servicable and fine, but the execution of the NTR with the lady of the house was poor. She wasn't interested in the antagonist, she didn't wantanything to do with him. It's been a long time since I played, so I could be misremembering, but I believe in her youth she had met him and was charmed. He was good with words, physically quite attractive, but then it turned out he was a scumbag and trying to take advantage of her, so she hated him. He returns, and there's just as much friction as ever, and he doesn't improve. His charisma and good looks don't soften her up and strain the relationship she's been building with the player, leading to tense moments where she's giving in to temptation to fool around with the strong and attractive guy despite emotionally being more invested in you. Instead, he forces things on her, is sexually controlling, and basically rapes her into submission.
That's dull, that's generic, that's underwhelming, that's less impactful, that drags down her character, that's less hot, that's just faceless, lifeless, soulless NTR. And you got no good gameplay on your way there, and no good story or plotline framing it.
If the sister was your girlfriend, it'd have been a lot better, as her content would have made for at least decent NTR. She's naive, but genuinely interested in that guy, and giving him a chance that she really shouldn't, and he seduces her successfully. If you had a romantic relationship with her, there's a lot of potential there. No NTR with her, though. You aren't interested in her in that way. No dating options. She's just your sister.
Since I didn't like Henteria, I didn't look into the other chapters.

overly convoluted and unrealistic writing/gameplay in them

Unfortunately, neither east nor west has dodged

 

[EnTeeArrr]

Henteria 2 definitely addresses some of your concerns and 3 also is shaping up to as well and both are a big improvement. Karma and Culture shock have probably my favourite western NTR routes.