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I think your problem is playing crappy NTR games, because unfortunately most of them are going to have a super generic and convenient story for the MC to be dumb enough to be betrayed for whatever futile reason and keep getting betrayed. The solution for this market is not to make games with avoidable NTR, as this would transform the market that is already heavily criticized for this fetish into a place that would serve even more those who complain about them. Knowing this, the best way to resolve the situation is if developers were more capable not only of resources but of mentality, so we would have very good games in terms of technical quality and script. Despite this, you must take into account the types of netorare, if you like complex stories you will have to look for quality games on the market, in addition to simpler stories. A good example of a somewhat complex NTR game is the Girlfriend tapes, where the story is very good, the MC is not stupid and is actually very suspicious that he might be a cuckold, however his girlfriend is very sneaky in the meantime, making with the NTR extending even if the MC isn't dumb and generic to let that happen.
Few things,

1. I don't disagree with your point. There are a lot of crappy (usually jrpg) ntr games out there, and I also happen to play them. My opinion may also be biased off the fact I'm not a fan of hard cucking, like the mc knowing his girl is cheating and loving it. I much prefer him not knowing/slowly finding out. I also much prefer having a say in the ntr side of the story. I don't think most ntr games would benefit from a non-ntr route, but I still think a lot would.

2. Thanks for the game mention. I tried it, and GF tapes was fun.

3. I have to disagree on your point on GF tapes. In fact, I think it sort of proves my point in a way. From what I see, the game rn has three routes. Cuck route, confront route, best friend route. Confront route is essentially the anti-ntr route, (even though you still get ntr'd), and I think the game would've much worse if they didn't have it. My entire point is it's kinda annoying when easily avoidable/noticable ntr is happening beneath an mcs nose, and you as a player can't do anything about it. That's not the case in GF tapes, they let you confront and evolve. I think if your mc is intellgent, and isn't just some massive cuck, he should eventually gain the option to do something about the ntr.
 

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I have to disagree on your point on GF tapes. In fact, I think it sort of proves my point in a way. From what I see, the game rn has three routes. Cuck route, confront route, best friend route. Confront route is essentially the anti-ntr route, (even though you still get ntr'd), and I think the game would've much worse if they didn't have it. My entire point is it's kinda annoying when easily avoidable/noticable ntr is happening beneath an mcs nose, and you as a player can't do anything about it. That's not the case in GF tapes, they let you confront and evolve. I think if your mc is intellgent, and isn't just some massive cuck, he should eventually gain the option to do something about the ntr.
Yes. And I agree with your point about MC should have a say in the situation.

If the MC doesn't wanna improve the relationship with the heroine then the game is netorase imo.

In low-quality NTR games with crappy game design, the only options to see ntr scenes are always intentionally neglecting the heroin/don't give her x amount of gifts/don't spend time with her,... at that point, I myself can't see the point of NTR anymore, shouldn't it's fine if the heroin can just start a relationship with "bad" guy(s) and cast aside the "good" guy that doesn't give her love anymore?
 

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Yes. And I agree with your point about MC should have a say in the situation.

If the MC doesn't wanna improve the relationship with the heroine then the game is netorase imo.

In low-quality NTR games with crappy game design, the only options to see ntr scenes are always intentionally neglecting the heroin/don't give her x amount of gifts/don't spend time with her,... at that point, I myself can't see the point of NTR anymore, shouldn't it's fine if the heroin can just start a relationship with "bad" guy(s) and cast aside the "good" guy that doesn't give her love anymore?
Agree. To be honest, such games remind me of those female protagonist games, where you have to lose a fight on purpose to see the sex content. Well, those who really love rape are probably fine with it, but let's say I have a gamer mentality. So when I play a game, I want to win it and be rewarded for it. So I would prefer to get the pleasure in the process. That said, this does not at all contradict the very idea that it is possible to have this very pleasure while playing. I've seen at least a few games where sex during combat was done well without you having to intentionally give in and lose. Succubus Connect, Magical Girl Celesphonia are good ones (They are not NTR). And the last NTR game SAO trap of breath, but here it only applies to the combat mechanics, the game itself doesn't give you a choice. And overall, I didn't like this game too much, it just has good sexy mechanics and good graphic.

I think it's more than possible to make a game where both parties can be happy with. Exceptions are probably the hardcore fans of vanilla or NTR, who just want the pure thing without shades.
 
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Few things,

1. I don't disagree with your point. There are a lot of crappy (usually jrpg) ntr games out there, and I also happen to play them. My opinion may also be biased off the fact I'm not a fan of hard cucking, like the mc knowing his girl is cheating and loving it. I much prefer him not knowing/slowly finding out. I also much prefer having a say in the ntr side of the story. I don't think most ntr games would benefit from a non-ntr route, but I still think a lot would.

2. Thanks for the game mention. I tried it, and GF tapes was fun.

3. I have to disagree on your point on GF tapes. In fact, I think it sort of proves my point in a way. From what I see, the game rn has three routes. Cuck route, confront route, best friend route. Confront route is essentially the anti-ntr route, (even though you still get ntr'd), and I think the game would've much worse if they didn't have it. My entire point is it's kinda annoying when easily avoidable/noticable ntr is happening beneath an mcs nose, and you as a player can't do anything about it. That's not the case in GF tapes, they let you confront and evolve. I think if your mc is intellgent, and isn't just some massive cuck, he should eventually gain the option to do something about the ntr.
we could point out that there is a standard for the perfect NTR, but even so, this would be relative in the view of other people since it depends on personal taste, that is, there are NTR in which it can be much more pleasant to play knowing that the MC looks a bit idiot to what is right in front of you and this entails the fact that the author will make the NTR and especially the sex scenes to be prolonged in the game, this would be the kind of light NTR to play because it does not have a complex story and is oriented more for the pleasure side of the player (take into account that despite this not necessarily the MC needs to be an idiot, but the situation can seem idiotic), a light NTR game but extremely good is SAO NTR and games from the same developer. On the other hand, let's have people who will prefer NTR more serious and with a heavier feel to the story, where the MC can probably look like an idiot in this kind of story too, which you might think and that taking the MC as an idiot would being a standard recipe for an NTR story, as if the person who is betrayed is necessarily naive enough to be betrayed and it doesn't change even in a heavy NTR or a light one. In the same way that we won't have 100 releases of 100% quality in any genre, we won't see the same in NTR content (actually it's more negative), that is, you really have to dig a lot to find an NTR that is really good or relatively good adhering to your ideas for that genre or not.
 
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we could point out that there is a standard for the perfect NTR, but even so, this would be relative in the view of other people since it depends on personal taste, that is, there are NTR in which it can be much more pleasant to play knowing that the MC looks a bit idiot to what is right in front of you and this entails the fact that the author will make the NTR and especially the sex scenes to be prolonged in the game, this would be the kind of light NTR to play because it does not have a complex story and is oriented more for the pleasure side of the player (take into account that despite this not necessarily the MC needs to be an idiot, but the situation can seem idiotic), a light NTR game but extremely good is SAO NTR and games from the same developer. On the other hand, let's have people who will prefer NTR more serious and with a heavier feel to the story, where the MC can probably look like an idiot in this kind of story too, which you might think and that taking the MC as an idiot would being a standard recipe for an NTR story, as if the person who is betrayed is necessarily naive enough to be betrayed and it doesn't change even in a heavy NTR or a light one. In the same way that we won't have 100 releases of 100% quality in any genre, we won't see the same in NTR content (actually it's more negative), that is, you really have to dig a lot to find an NTR that is really good or relatively good adhering to your ideas for that genre or not.
and still dealing with this idea, the MC being naive really seems like a prerequisite to be an MC of an NTR story, because people in general can see the cuckold as that individual who was naively betrayed/cheated, slovenly enough to being deceived by your partner and this must be the thought of the authors of NTR. Also, don't misunderstand the term naive MC in NTR as it doesn't mean he is a small penis loser like we see in most NTR, there are NTR games that the MC can be a great successful warrior and have a penis normal, but still this naivety will be present in him so that he can be conducive to being cuckolded by some factor. It's hard for you to buy the idea that a strong, beautiful and not naive MC can be the MC of an NTR story, because usually these guys are the Netori in the story, what you might end up seeing is an MC like that in a story with NTR avoidable, but this avoidable NTR gives a sense of NETORASE either by the MC or by the player himself, I've seen it in that game "Deliverance" in which the detective who is an incredible guy can be a cuckold in the game, but by his own will.
 
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we could point out that there is a standard for the perfect NTR, but even so, this would be relative in the view of other people since it depends on personal taste, that is, there are NTR in which it can be much more pleasant to play knowing that the MC looks a bit idiot to what is right in front of you and this entails the fact that the author will make the NTR and especially the sex scenes to be prolonged in the game, this would be the kind of light NTR to play because it does not have a complex story and is oriented more for the pleasure side of the player (take into account that despite this not necessarily the MC needs to be an idiot, but the situation can seem idiotic), a light NTR game but extremely good is SAO NTR and games from the same developer. On the other hand, let's have people who will prefer NTR more serious and with a heavier feel to the story, where the MC can probably look like an idiot in this kind of story too, which you might think and that taking the MC as an idiot would being a standard recipe for an NTR story, as if the person who is betrayed is necessarily naive enough to be betrayed and it doesn't change even in a heavy NTR or a light one. In the same way that we won't have 100 releases of 100% quality in any genre, we won't see the same in NTR content (actually it's more negative), that is, you really have to dig a lot to find an NTR that is really good or relatively good adhering to your ideas for that genre or not.
Wow dude, the way you structure your sentences reminds me a text generated by AI more than any ChatGPT response I've ever seen. Kudos for that. Very hard to understand what you mean though, makes me feel stupid when I reread it multiple times and still am lost D:
 

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Don't worry, dude. They just want less Netorare, and they type in a very robotic and soulless manner. As expected of hypocrits.
 
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Wow dude, the way you structure your sentences reminds me a text generated by AI more than any ChatGPT response I've ever seen. Kudos for that. Very hard to understand what you mean though, makes me feel stupid when I reread it multiple times and still am lost D:
I don't speak English fluently so I write in my language and pass it to Google translator, unfortunately it seems that the translator is screwing up my words.
 

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I don't speak English fluently so I write in my language and pass it to Google translator, unfortunately it seems that the translator is screwing up my words.
:O Didn't occur to me.. Do you also translate whole forum from english with that "translate page" function?
 
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Man its been real quiet lately huh? Whats people up to in the meantime now that there isn't anything really worth playing? Ive gone through doom wads/retrofps lately and having a blast lol. I missed out on doom 1 and 2 back in the day so i got tons of mods/wads to play in the coming days. On a sidenote if any got some recommendations on some best ones feel free to reply. Biggest two favorites i played and would recommend if you haven't had the chance is Ashe2063 and wolfenstein blade of agony. Again sorry for not keeping thread on topic but hasn't been anything lately.
 
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Man its been real quiet lately huh? Whats people up to in the meantime now that there isn't anything really worth playing? Ive gone through doom wads/retrofps lately and having a blast lol. I missed out on doom 1 and 2 back in the day so i got tons of mods/wads to play in the coming days. On a sidenote if any got some recommendations on some best ones feel free to reply. Biggest two favorites i played and would recommend if you haven't had the chance is Ashe2063 and wolfenstein blade of agony. Again sorry for not keeping thread on topic but hasn't been anything lately.
Hexen beyond heretic. That stuff was quite ahead of its time actually. I replayed it recently and it is very atmospheric even by todays standards.. Still enjoyable, even vanilla one (without brutal mod).
 

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Man its been real quiet lately huh? Whats people up to in the meantime now that there isn't anything really worth playing? Ive gone through doom wads/retrofps lately and having a blast lol. I missed out on doom 1 and 2 back in the day so i got tons of mods/wads to play in the coming days. On a sidenote if any got some recommendations on some best ones feel free to reply. Biggest two favorites i played and would recommend if you haven't had the chance is Ashe2063 and wolfenstein blade of agony. Again sorry for not keeping thread on topic but hasn't been anything lately.
I started playing Nier Automata, it's been a while since the last good adult game released.
 
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