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[skyblueaster]

So this thread is now evolving from discussions of NTR games to digital artist getting NTR'ed.

Pragmatic approach for most people would be:
If AI art is easy, just switch to it, make banks on "the job" and continue your passion of drawing non AI art, isn't that what most regular people do? working (for the money) is mostly not about passion or fun. It's sad sure, but reality is like that.

Also jobs get killed every now and then, people upskills all the time, not that your years of drawing is going to waste (but it does feel kinda bad (when you invest 'time' on the wrong thing)), cut your losses, people need to learn and adjust to what the free market really wants. The velocity of that mentioned dev is amazing even if it's AI slop.

Some doomer might argue that it kills x,y,z and the art of making it itself, well... that happens multiple times already throughout history, and will happen again. I dont think art of x is going away in today's age, it will be there if needed, archived in The Internet.

About stolen things:
A human learns the same way as AI learns, stealing knowledge, patterns and imprinting it on our neurons.

Bottom line: Champions adjust to ride the tide of change. No crying in the free market, lest you became those miserable bitter just stop oil.

skyblueaster

Well… digital artists getting NTR’ed certainly fits with the theme, hehe.

Despite the major drawback displacing artists, I’m actually quite excited to see what AI can do, especially when it comes to animation and making immersive VR worlds. Since we are a niche medium, hentai anime will probably never rise to its early 2000s heyday. Right now, the animation side is not promising, especially with the major AI tech censoring adult themes, but hopefully we will have an uncensored, refined model in the future.

There is essentially, no open-world VR NTR, so if AI could emulate those kinds of worlds in the future, we are in for a world of… amazing cuckoldry.

I believe the shift to majority-AI usage is inevitable, so I don’t criticize devs for using it. However, I do prefer the tangibility of hand-drawn art, so I have opted to use it in my novel.

One gripe I have is that the "AI NTR" being released right now is actually detrimental to my NTR browsing because it's literally… not NTR lol. I can’t find any good Oshi no Ko or Dress-up Doll NTR because these guys are literally spamming Marin with BBC and calling that “NTR.” The ones with text can be pretty decent, but sadly many are just textless and really low-effort (no post-editing and girl doesn't even resemble Marin).

I need a little more backstory to consider something NTR, but something tells me the guy making a hundred images a day probably doesn’t care about that distinction haha.

 

[cowardleech]

There is essentially, no open-world VR NTR, so if AI could emulate those kinds of worlds in the future, we are in for a world of… amazing cuckoldry.

I promise you the NTR worlds AI will create in the foreseeable future will be no better than the slop AtlierSakura has been putting out lately.

 

[crnisl]

I can’t find any good Dress-up Doll NTR because these guys are literally spamming Marin with BBC and calling that “NTR.”

Rannero, the creator of The Curse of Pleasure (fmc-sisntr), uses to make ai-art of Marin (he is regularly posting in his discord) and even promised to make a solid ntr comics about her eventually.
There're some examples of his works. Imho, much better than most of Marin ai-art in

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. Well, Rannero is an artist himself, he's using ai with some taste.

 

[kotfpp]

So this thread is now evolving from discussions of NTR games to digital artist getting NTR'ed.

Pragmatic approach for most people would be:
If AI art is easy, just switch to it, make banks on "the job" and continue your passion of drawing non AI art, isn't that what most regular people do? working (for the money) is mostly not about passion or fun. It's sad sure, but reality is like that.

Also jobs get killed every now and then, people upskills all the time, not that your years of drawing is going to waste (but it does feel kinda bad (when you invest 'time' on the wrong thing)), cut your losses, people need to learn and adjust to what the free market really wants. The velocity of that mentioned dev is amazing even if it's AI slop.

Some doomer might argue that it kills x,y,z and the art of making it itself, well... that happens multiple times already throughout history, and will happen again. I dont think art of x is going away in today's age, it will be there if needed, archived in The Internet.

About stolen things:
A human learns the same way as AI learns, stealing knowledge, patterns and imprinting it on our neurons.

Bottom line: Champions adjust to ride the tide of change. No crying in the free market, lest you became those miserable bitter just stop oil.

skyblueaster

This is a lot of words to say that you don't really have an opinion. A few other people have made similar posts already but leaving things to "survival of the fittest" isn't a real stance. Whatever becomes dominant in any given environment is pretty arbitrary and not always desirable. It's why people kill weeds and invasive species.

AI is only advancing as much as it is within 2d art because it's been a dead industry for decades. The only people around to care are basically hobbyists who have no weight to throw around. There will be a lot of people with a lot of money and power "crying" in the "free market" when it encroaches as much as it has in other areas like music, 3d, or voice acting.

 

[SlidingSubject]

This is a lot of words to say that you don't really have an opinion. A few other people have made similar posts already but leaving things to "survival of the fittest" isn't a real stance. Whatever becomes dominant in any given environment is pretty arbitrary and not always desirable. It's why people kill weeds and invasive species.

AI is only advancing as much as it is within 2d art because it's been a dead industry for decades. The only people around to care are basically hobbyists who have no weight to throw around. There will be a lot of people with a lot of money and power "crying" in the "free market" when it encroaches as much as it has in other areas like music, 3d, or voice acting.

This reminds me of a discussion I saw once on an image of an artist complaining that his actual art pieces sold for pennies, but when the furry fetish people commissioned pieces, he could charge 100 times, and even more, for it and they paid upfront. He had to live, but he felt like he was selling his soul to the devil.

Some people think AI is evil and just slop. Others will enjoy it. Best thing to do, if you don't like it, is to just accept it's something that exists and move on, instead of trying to trying to crusade against it. Maybe just tagging it.

 

[dean_athallah]

This is a lot of words to say that you don't really have an opinion. A few other people have made similar posts already but leaving things to "survival of the fittest" isn't a real stance. Whatever becomes dominant in any given environment is pretty arbitrary and not always desirable. It's why people kill weeds and invasive species.

AI is only advancing as much as it is within 2d art because it's been a dead industry for decades. The only people around to care are basically hobbyists who have no weight to throw around. There will be a lot of people with a lot of money and power "crying" in the "free market" when it encroaches as much as it has in other areas like music, 3d, or voice acting.

Wasnt really writing if against or for ai art. It's pragmatism.

The free market isnt really about weed or invasive creature that thrive because there's free money. Rain and minerals in the ground isn't conscious, people are conscious agents, choosing which one they would like to support.

And yes, in it for the money = survival of the fittest.

 

[skyblueaster]

Rannero, the creator of The Curse of Pleasure (fmc-sisntr), uses to make ai-art of Marin (he is regularly posting in his discord) and even promised to make a solid ntr comics about her eventually.
There're some examples of his works. Imho, much better than most of Marin ai-art in

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. Well, Rannero is an artist himself, he's using ai with some taste.
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Ayoo, I don’t wanna procrastinate, but I will be very busy tonight.

And yeah, Rannero is an NTR OG. I remember playing his Curse of Pleasure game a few years ago. Gotta replay it sometime, see if he added new content.

 

[crnisl]

Ayoo, I don’t wanna procrastinate, but I will be very busy tonight.

And yeah, Rannero is an NTR OG. I remember playing his Curse of Pleasure game a few years ago. Gotta replay it sometime, see if he added new content.

And meanwhile, there's a guy in Rannero's discord, Malazzi, he is quite dedicated to producing ai-fanart with Yuuki, the heroine of the Curse of Pleasure.

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Some examples:

 

[dean_athallah]

And meanwhile, there's a guy in Rannero's discord, Malazzi, he is quite dedicated to producing ai-fanart with Yuuki, the heroine of the Curse of Pleasure.

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Some examples:
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This looks super great... much better than most art, the inconsistencies can be in-painted. Sigh, people should just be pragmatic in life IMO .

It should always have been: you provide me great things and I give you good sum of money. Adjusting to changing tides is a greater good than policing what people should like or buy, in that gives you bureaucracy and a subpar products at a slower throughput. You're selling a product here and the consumer exchanges his reserve of hardwork called money for it.

 

[kotfpp]

Wasnt really writing if against or for ai art. It's pragmatism.

The free market isnt really about weed or invasive creature that thrive because there's free money. Rain and minerals in the ground isn't conscious, people are conscious agents, choosing which one they would like to support.

And yes, in it for the money = survival of the fittest.

You either didn't read or understand what I've said. Antitrust laws would probably be a more direct and explicit analogy if you need to be a pedant. The concept of survival of the fittest and letting things sort themselves out is explicitly not pragmatic because it's not how people work.

 

[toxicduo]

I think Ai art is fine in some cases but the more people become better with it will start to become problematic, most Ai art games are slop now but eventually we will get to a point where its just massed produced mid ai art games. Kinda like how there are thousands are isekai managas now, all damn near being the same thing just a different title, different power, etc. It'll get to a point where all these games start to feel the same since using Ai inherently takes away from any uniqueness you can have as a developer in the art department(Yes you can edit them a little or give them different features but i have already seen other characters form different ai art games in other games just with a something slightly different). Also people will definitely start using others programs and ai art styles when they see them having some success since it will be easy to do, some people are already trying to do it with the amount of slop phone ntr games i've seen lately, and like someone said people will still pay for some of this slop because "it looks good thats all that matters" which in turn will make more people probably start using ai thus the mass production of mid ai art games begins. Hell there a few games on this site that switched to ai art after originally drawing it or getting an artist to draw it for them.

 

[monsterartisan]

I agree that AI will eventually produce a lot of shovelware. Uninspired, poor quality, with non-sensical designs, en masse. Which will be a nightmare to sort through on other places where you can't filter them.

But can we please return to talking more about the main topic of this thread? Maybe create another thread solely for AI stuff or something. For a couple of days now, there isn't much proper talk here.

 

[Shigeru Miyamoto]

Any Chinese or Korean NTR games? Preferably with the below art style.

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I know DLsite has language filters that let you look up non-JP games but I'd imagine most Chinese/Korean devs have their own platforms.

 

[dtta]

I made a post about 1 creator in the SAO game
https://f95zone.to/threads/sword-ar...agic-part-2-v0-75-fujino.154352/post-15405195
then there are these:

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- follow his videos about Izumi, they havea long narrative of mystery NTR and corruption.

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not MMD but 3D

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has NTR but focused on corruption still Blendy is the best 3D that i have seen.

those are the ones that I currently remember for NTR



as another quote replied you, in sugoiVn there is a file you have to download and just replace the file of your game with it. I recommend keeping the old file in case a bug happens you can use that to pass the line creating the bug and then return to the translation. also the translations are machine translated so they are not good according to people that like better translations. I personally don care.


you know that Is something I would actually want to see, it is a creative way to make AI art, and it is something a human would have trouble replicating. New Toy story Requiem! the game

Thanks mate, already thought nobody answers me which would be fine. I'll take a look at them all! And 3D is fine too, if its the anime style? dont like the "normal" 3D style.... and as i can see you know some creators, if by any chance you can recommand any mmd creators or the other style that got like nipslips into more revealing outfits in time. If its just a solo MMD from a character i dont like straight into nudity and prefer teasing or ignoring part of slight nudity like nipples/underboobs.

 

[crnisl]

Any Chinese or Korean NTR games? Preferably with the below art style.

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I know DLsite has language filters that let you look up non-JP games but I'd imagine most Chinese/Korean devs have their own platforms.

Well, I once posted about eastern 3dcg ntr comics

• Cuckold x Cosplay: Maki vn-fication of the first chapter of one of them

As for 2dcg, there's a couple of supposedly fine Chinese rpgm

• Xianxinglu of the Scarlet Moon fmc corrupt
• Adventuring with Belfast in Another World ntr

And a couple of VNs.

• Happiness Double Room there's an optional ntr ending, iirc
• A Sinful Camp by Taiwanese BananaKing

As for Korean gamedev, you might find the artstyle of Kidmo (Momentum Games) interesting, but I don't recall any proper ntr from him.

 

[skyblueaster]

Any Chinese or Korean NTR games? Preferably with the below art style.

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I know DLsite has language filters that let you look up non-JP games but I'd imagine most Chinese/Korean devs have their own platforms.

You have awoken something in me...

 

[crnisl]

It'll get to a point where all these games start to feel the same since using Ai inherently takes away from any uniqueness you can have as a developer in the art department(Yes you can edit them a little or give them different features but i have already seen other characters form different ai art games in other games just with a something slightly different).

I think, that's just the laziness and lack of imagination of the creators. Look, for example about the realistic style - I just generated the image with the fresh flux-pro-ultra, and then animated it with kling-pro

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And same with a fantasy illustration - I tried to make the sinister fox-demon-goddess from my favorite

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[Shigeru Miyamoto]

Well, I once posted about eastern 3dcg ntr comics

• Cuckold x Cosplay: Maki vn-fication of the first chapter of one of them

As for 2dcg, there's a couple of supposedly fine Chinese rpgm

• Xianxinglu of the Scarlet Moon fmc corrupt
• Adventuring with Belfast in Another World ntr

And a couple of VNs.

• Happiness Double Room there's an optional ntr ending, iirc
• A Sinful Camp by Taiwanese BananaKing

As for Korean gamedev, you might find the artstyle of Kidmo (Momentum Games) interesting, but I don't recall any proper ntr from him.

 

[Kulman]

Chinese fantasy is so underused in porn games. I guess sorta makes sense since this is banned in china but man, I wish more people from the west tried to set their games there. Its all too japan pilled.

Xianxia (chinese fantasy) is imo an extremely good setting for an ntr game. You literally have concepts like dual cultivation (leveling up through sex basically).

 

[Shirafune]

Well seeing as there's so much talk about AI CGs, I consider them shite mostly, they all look like the same type of art