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Legit question:

Why is everyone so excited about Rain Monster? I played Me, My Girlfriend and Sparklers (this developer's other game) and I thought it had a cool concept (For being similar to Scars of Summer) but the animations and models were absolutely awful. Admittedly, I haven't played Rain Monster's demo. Have the models and animations gotten significantly better? I gotta admit the female MC in Rain Monster's looks way better at least, but idk. I'm not judging or saying you shouldn't be excited, I just want to be excited too lmao
Usually the first games tend to be average/weak, it's totally understandable, Shinachiku's first game was also weak and the design wasn't that great and look what it's become today! Nikusike has had considerable evolution that you can notice, besides that in the demo there's a lot to do and it has a cool story.
 

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anyone seen this one? it is tagged as NTR rated 4.8 (200)


I like robots so I am interested.

Here is the google translation:



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soungs interesting for sure.
just dont set your expectations too high, its a small game and as the author says, just 3 scenes on the NTR path (vs. 7 on the love route)
 

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Is this right? I thought it might be a waste of time, the dlsite notes are not good.
when he released the game which you purchased the game which you purchased was exactly the same as the demo which was free. afterwards he "updated" the game which was simply releasing the exact same demo but as 32bit and arm64 .exe so the game came with the same demo but with triple the file size since it had 64bit, 32bit, and arm64 exe in the zip. when he released this new update it was terribly bugged so you couldn't progress to the end unless you glitched it and then you missed the best scene and there was issues with the ui switching to chinese even if you had selected japanese/english.

the game is actually good but the developer is spilling his spaghetti everywhere and tripping over his own feet.
 
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when he released the game which you purchased the game which you purchased was exactly the same as the demo which was free. afterwards he "updated" the game which was simply releasing the exact same demo but as 32bit and arm64 .exe so the game came with the same demo but with triple the file size since it had 64bit, 32bit, and arm64 exe in the zip. when he released this new update it was terribly bugged so you couldn't progress to the end unless you glitched it and then you missed the best scene and there was issues with the ui switching to chinese even if you had selected japanese/english.

the game is actually good but the developer is spilling his spaghetti everywhere and tripping over his own feet.
How much content does this have, is it better to play now or wait?
 

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The longer I want the game, the more painful it is to wait.
And the author wrote that the game might be released in July.
He has so much content that he's not going to use and yet he's postponed the project, I'm curious to know where the problem lies, maybe programming?
New blog about the new game ''Rain Monster'', the game was postponed and will be released in June/July, but the blog says that there will be anal in Bob's route, the cool thing is that there is karaoke, boxing, amusement park in the test version, and I'm really curious about the final version (there are three other routes).

It has everything to be the best NTR of the year.

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It's a shame that ci-en's subscription form is garbage, I really wanted to see the exclusive content for the other months, Bob's route seems to be the hottest.
Legit question:

Why is everyone so excited about Rain Monster? I played Me, My Girlfriend and Sparklers (this developer's other game) and I thought it had a cool concept (For being similar to Scars of Summer) but the animations and models were absolutely awful. Admittedly, I haven't played Rain Monster's demo. Have the models and animations gotten significantly better? I gotta admit the female MC in Rain Monster's looks way better at least, but idk. I'm not judging or saying you shouldn't be excited, I just want to be excited too lmao
His evolution, the demo is VERY GOOD, he's improved a lot in everything, and the game promises to have more content than SoS, and just having mom NTR automatically wins my loyalty.

About HC, I didn't really understand the discussion, but I wanted to become a patron because of HMHF, is it worth it, or should I wait for Aya to finish?
 

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How much content does this have, is it better to play now or wait?
i think the version which taishi32 uploaded has the latest fix so it's fine to play it. not completely sure though cause i haven't downloaded it but i don't notice anybody mentioning the door bug so it's probably fixed.

as for whether it's worth it or not. i liked it the content really fits my taste. this has solgante stuff going on where your wife is having an orgasm so she feeds you wrong information on accident causing you to almost die so i like it. it's like 25-40 minutes of content so far
 

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I must be doing something wrong because when I translate it with translator++ it get stuck during prologue with heroine spawning at wrong place and freeze.
well to be fair i erased the translation of all the red marked squares from the first square until map 7. then i gave up but it worked nicely
 

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Gotta ask - Is Our Red String worth playing for wholesome NTR purposes?


Game has very good review score and the Netorare tag, but both female and male protagonist.. so I have to cheat on myself and pretend to be shocked afterwards? :unsure:
In my opinion, yes... But it doesn't have a lot of that content... And I think it's more of "cheating" than netorare. Since the beginning, it builds up the relationship between the two MC's and we can see the POV of the two of them as the time passes... At one moment we can choose to put them into a relationship... And then, as we control the woman, we can choose to do naughty things with the best friend of the MC (now our boyfriend) and also with other men in the game... Cheating on our BF this way. I am really not sure if the MC sees something of this or knows about it
Other thing that happens is that, when controlling the MC, there will be a woman that is interested in us, but if we take wrong decisions we will see how she fucks out best friend instead, I kind of felt that as NTR when I saw it and was hot, but I really prefer what happens between the MC and the FMC... That they become a couple and the FMC can cheat on him with some guys
 
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As you like reasoning, I think it makes sense to share with you this quote from (1908) by G.K. Chesterton.

We have grown to associate morality in a book with a kind of optimism and prettiness; according to us, a moral book is a book about moral people. But the old idea was almost exactly the opposite; a moral book was a book about immoral people. A moral book was full of pictures like Hogarth’s “Gin Lane” or “Stages of Cruelty,” or it recorded, like the popular broadsheet, “God’s dreadful judgment” against some blasphemer or murderer. There is a philosophical reason for this change. The homeless scepticism of our time has reached a subconscious feeling that morality is somehow merely a matter of human taste—an accident of psychology. And if goodness only exists in certain human minds, a man wishing to praise goodness will naturally exaggerate the amount of it that there is in human minds or the number of human minds in which it is supreme. Every confession that man is vicious is a confession that virtue is visionary. Every book which admits that evil is real is felt in some vague way to be admitting that good is unreal. The modern instinct is that if the heart of man is evil, there is nothing that remains good. But the older feeling was that if the heart of man was ever so evil, there was something that remained good—goodness remained good. An actual avenging virtue existed outside the human race; to that men rose, or from that men fell away. Therefore, of course, this law itself was as much demonstrated in the breach as in the observance. If Tom Jones violated morality, so much the worse for Tom Jones. Fielding did not feel, as a melancholy modern would have done, that every sin of Tom Jones was in some way breaking the spell, or we may even say destroying the fiction of morality. Men spoke of the sinner breaking the law; but it was rather the law that broke him. And what modern people call the foulness and freedom of Fielding is generally the severity and moral stringency of Fielding. He would not have thought that he was serving morality at all if he had written a book all about nice people. Fielding would have considered Mr. Ian Maclaren extremely immoral; and there is something to be said for that view. Telling the truth about the terrible struggle of the human soul is surely a very elementary part of the ethics of honesty. If the characters are not wicked, the book is.
This older and firmer conception of right as existing outside human weakness and without reference to human error can be felt in the very lightest and loosest of the works of old English literature. It is commonly unmeaning enough to call Shakspere a great moralist; but in this particular way Shakspere is a very typical moralist. Whenever he alludes to right and wrong it is always with this old implication. Right is right, even if nobody does it. Wrong is wrong, even if everybody is wrong about it.
I'm not sure if i understand every bit of the extract, so i cannot comment on many of its parts. All i can say is that my set of beliefs are in agreement to what the last sentences conveyed:

Right is right, even if nobody does it. Wrong is wrong, even if everybody is wrong about it.
But it may or may not be "agreeing" in a way that gratifies others' sensibilities. And i will leave it at that. I don't think this is an appropriate place to escalate beyond what i broached. I delivered a relevant snippet of my worldview only for the purpose of seeking recommendations, since it seems that my "niche" is not as straightforwardly communicable.

Appreciate the thoughtful gesture nonetheless.

Hopefully now that the train is back on track, i'd like to ask the connoisseurs here another question. But in a separate post.
 

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Hi, I was hoping someone could help me out. I'm sure it's not that obscure. I'dve made a new post but this thread seems to fit.

I played a game from here, NTR, and I just can't remember the name of it (my old PC is toast). And so I'm asking you if you know the name of it.

Pretty simple story, guy is in love with his wife, she's in love with him. The characters are Japanese (or at least Asian). He's struggling a bit financially and I think he takes a job tutoring a college student. The student is not a stud, he's a fat and shy guy. Hubby starts fantasizing about his wife with the guy. He shares the thoughts with his wife and, loving him, she's entirely willing to play along with it. In the last chapter made (at least that I saw), since the college guy had complained about needing to exercise so he could get girls, the wife suggested she go exercise with him, so she put on some spandex shorts and a tight crop top and spent the day encouraging him to exercise, occasionally sending pics of them both to her hubby to give him ideas.
 

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Hi, I was hoping someone could help me out. I'm sure it's not that obscure. I'dve made a new post but this thread seems to fit.

I played a game from here, NTR, and I just can't remember the name of it (my old PC is toast). And so I'm asking you if you know the name of it.

Pretty simple story, guy is in love with his wife, she's in love with him. The characters are Japanese (or at least Asian). He's struggling a bit financially and I think he takes a job tutoring a college student. The student is not a stud, he's a fat and shy guy. Hubby starts fantasizing about his wife with the guy. He shares the thoughts with his wife and, loving him, she's entirely willing to play along with it. In the last chapter made (at least that I saw), since the college guy had complained about needing to exercise so he could get girls, the wife suggested she go exercise with him, so she put on some spandex shorts and a tight crop top and spent the day encouraging him to exercise, occasionally sending pics of them both to her hubby to give him ideas.
https://f95zone.to/threads/my-netorase-obsession-v0-65-drusasnts.219172/ this?
From the description it looks more like this
 
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So i'm quite curious:

According to your views, why aren't we seeing more female Love Interest in Netorare works act and carry themselves just like the adulterous female MC in western-style VNs/games?

For example, why aren't we seeing a (for lack of better term) "sexually-carefree" girl like Anna from Anna's Exciting Affection become the cheating love interest in a Netorare game?

This is a purposively broad and vague question, as i'd like to know how users here distinguish between Netorare and Cheating. I myself suspect that, despite not being made crystal clear; Netorare (at least traditionally) is actually alluding to the portrayal of a specific form of cheating, in which a distinguished intruding male antagonist must be the primary and prominent corrupting agent (i.e. the entity that coaxes the Love Interest to go behind the Male MC's back).

Whereas in the real world, at least from how i understand it, this form of cheating does not make up all incidents of cheating. Sometimes the primary instigator (a kind of corruptive agent) is the Love Interest's female peers, or peer pressure more generally (like in hen parties). Some other time, the instigator is interal factors which drive the girl to seek out cheating herself (as opposed to being coaxed into it). And of course the most exciting one, the combinations of all of them. But rarely do i see this being explored, except for it just being a tiny and insignificant aspect of the storyline. And for the most part, the dime a dozen story is just an obsessed dude doing the absolute most to get inside the taken girl's pants...

*let's be clear that here we are strictly discussing within the confines of stories/artistic works from the perspective of a Male MC/Protagonist.

I've asked this before here, but engagement thereof was pretty low :confused:. So pardon me for doing a repeat.

EDIT: i want to point out that despite being old, i feel like NTRPG 2's story itself does not fall within the dime a dozen formulaic trope of Netorare. I feel like it's a great example to demonstrate the suggestion that Netorare genre somewhat is stagnating, and that the old NTR writers are (at least in my view) seemingly more innovative & pioneering that recent ones.
 
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So i'm quite curious:

According to your views, why aren't we seeing more female Love Interest in Netorare works act and carry themselves just like the adulterous female MC in western-style VNs/games?

For example, why aren't we seeing a (for lack of better term) "sexually-carefree" girl like Anna from Anna's Exciting Affection become the cheating love interest in a Netorare game?

This is a purposively broad and vague question, as i'd like to know how users here distinguish between Netorare and Cheating. I myself suspect that, despite not being made crystal clear; Netorare (at least traditionally) is actually alluding to the portrayal of a specific form of cheating, in which a distinguished intruding male antagonist must be the primary and prominent corrupting agent (i.e. the entity that coaxes the Love Interest to go behind the Male MC's back).

Whereas in the real world, at least from how i understand it, this form of cheating does not make up all incidents of cheating. Sometimes the primary instigator (a kind of corruptive agent) is the Love Interest's female peers, or peer pressure more generally (like in hen parties). Some other time, the instigator is interal factors which drive the girl to seek out cheating herself (as opposed to being coaxed into it). And of course the most exciting one, the combinations of all of them. But rarely do i see this being explored, except for it just being a tiny and insignificant aspect of the storyline. And for the most part, the dime a dozen story is just an obsessed dude doing the absolute most to get inside the taken girl's pants...

*let's be clear that here we are strictly discussing within the confines of stories/artistic works from the perspective of a Male MC/Protagonist.

I've asked this before here, but engagement thereof was pretty low :confused:. So pardon me for doing a repeat.
There's nothing hot about peer pressure, if your woman can be peer pressured, she's not frickin worth it lol. Which is a must in NTR, amplifying feeling of a loss.
 
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Whereas in the real world, at least from how i understand it, this form of cheating does not make up all incidents of cheating.
There's nothing hot about peer pressure, if your woman can be peer pressured, she's not frickin worth it lol. Which is a must in NTR, amplifying feeling of a loss.
The Rule of Contrast (Juxtaposition) in Fiction

By placing opposites side by side - light/dark, virtue/vice, hope/despair, love/betrayal - a story sharpens meaning and emotion. This clash highlights themes, deepens character complexity, and creates tension that mirrors how humans process conflict and change.

Reality lacks narrative intent; events unfold randomly, ambiguously. Fiction, however, curates contrast to distill life’s chaos into purposeful drama. Without it, stakes blur, characters feel flat, and themes dissolve into mundanity. Even as a cliche, juxtaposition works because it mimics our instinct to compare and assign meaning - turning raw experience into resonant story.

In cuckolding narratives, the male bully isn’t just a villain - he’s contrast weaponized. By externalizing corruption (bully’s aggression vs. heroine’s loyalty), the story forces a visceral us-vs-them tension. If she falls solo (boredom, environment pressure), the betrayal feels diffuse, self-inflicted - diluting the gut-punch of violation.

The bully sharpens the theft: he’s a hostile invader, not her natural failure. This amps stakes (lovers vs. predator), twists emotional stakes (helplessness, rage), and makes the loss unfair - not just sad, but unjust. Fiction needs a devil to burn brighter.
 

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The Rule of Contrast (Juxtaposition) in Fiction

By placing opposites side by side - light/dark, virtue/vice, hope/despair, love/betrayal - a story sharpens meaning and emotion. This clash highlights themes, deepens character complexity, and creates tension that mirrors how humans process conflict and change.

Reality lacks narrative intent; events unfold randomly, ambiguously. Fiction, however, curates contrast to distill life’s chaos into purposeful drama. Without it, stakes blur, characters feel flat, and themes dissolve into mundanity. Even as a cliche, juxtaposition works because it mimics our instinct to compare and assign meaning - turning raw experience into resonant story.

In cuckolding narratives, the male bully isn’t just a villain - he’s contrast weaponized. By externalizing corruption (bully’s aggression vs. heroine’s loyalty), the story forces a visceral us-vs-them tension. If she falls solo (boredom, environment pressure), the betrayal feels diffuse, self-inflicted - diluting the gut-punch of violation.

The bully sharpens the theft: he’s a hostile invader, not her natural failure. This amps stakes (lovers vs. predator), twists emotional stakes (helplessness, rage), and makes the loss unfair - not just sad, but unjust. Fiction needs a devil to burn brighter.
Here's the interesting part: i'm not saying that the story shouldn't have a "devil". I'm just saying that the devil should be less obvious, much like in real life. When i say "the girfriend changes on her own", it is only meant to refer to what is visible from the male MC's limited POV. Behind it are a complex array of factors which drive the Love Interest to cheat, which in aggregate makes up the "devil".

A good story is supposed to bring excitement by keeping the readers guessing. How am i to feel excited when i can foretell how the narrative unfolds? This is why in my post a while back, i suggested Netorare authors to somewhat "overload" the story with expansive worldbuilding and a plethora of corrupting agents, of which many may serve as red herrings. It brings more dimension to the story, as opposed to just seeing one singular dude doing fuck all to breed Romeo's Juliet...

EDIT: i joked about wanting the storyline of this site's most populare college life sim to veer towards Netorare. But i genuinely have a reason for why that may be viable; it is precisely because the worldbuilding is very well done, and that there are a lot of equally prominent male characters to discreetly conceal affair plotlines. Similar to The Edge Of (by HangoverCat), where he tried to hide the bull in plain sight.
 
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