And her sprite’s eyes look so weird right now. Looks like she’s wearing eyeliner all around her eyes. It’s still in development so these feedbacks are valid. She can be less chonkier too imo
Unity Ntraholic [v3.3.3u] [Tiramisu]
Careful now. If enough people are not satisfied then the next progress report will be:
"We have listen to the feedback from the fans. We will be redesigning Chiho based everyone's tastes. Look forward to the re-redesign of Ntraholic DX ready for release for the original's 10 year anniversary."
Bro what had you done, now i keep thinking about this
I prefer Chiho's old design but tbf with the new design, the example sprite that they used for Chiho standing makes her look very bad, if you check the same sprite and design in the other examples (sex positions etc) she looks great, so ill let them cook but man just stop delaying it i've been blue balled ever since onsen was unfinished and they hinted more scenes on their ci-en lmao
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Holy shit! Her new design just went from meh to bad (at least for me). And for the upcoming delay (probably) they'll just make her straight up obese to satisfy these so-called "western standards".
I genuinely feel bad for Tiramisu, it feels like he lost control and is no longer in charge of his own project anymore.
I genuinely feel bad for Tiramisu, it feels like he lost control and is no longer in charge of his own project anymore.
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It does feel quite scummy from the publisher towards the dev, basically like; we think the game is neat, buuuuuut, it's not "western" enough for our audience (which is nonsense that means fuck all, it's literally a Japanese game, what did Bliss expect
), so we will practically recreate the entire game (even using a different engine?) with your game only as a throwaway foundation and just use what you built for marketing's sake... I still don't get it.I mean, it's nothing new when it comes to western publishers, though it feels more and more questionable as you dive into it. I still don't understand the purpose of it and it doesn't help with the blue balling... I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt and wait to see how things turn out holding judgment then, but I said it constantly, this whole situation is so weird.
P.S, on an unrelated note, nice Han Sooyoung pfp, I just finished re-reading the ORV novel recently and it gets me sad looking at her
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While I do like the new design, I don't think its a good fit cause that looks like a woman that's had a kid or two not a newlywed.
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yea man. western publisher always have so much money to throw out, but they usually never know what to do with the projects they are buying.. they literally have near perfect stuff but they always are able to fk up everything. its a disaster...It does feel quite scummy from the publisher towards the dev, basically like; we think the game is neat, buuuuuut, it's not "western" enough for our audience (which is nonsense that means fuck all, it's literally a Japanese game, what did Bliss expect
I mean, it's nothing new when it comes to western publishers, though it feels more and more questionable as you dive into it. I still don't understand the purpose of it and it doesn't help with the blue balling... I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt and wait to see how things turn out holding judgment then, but I said it constantly, this whole situation is so weird.
P.S, on an unrelated note, nice Han Sooyoung pfp, I just finished re-reading the ORV novel recently and it gets me sad looking at her
btw, thank you very much. im so happy to find so many fellow ORV enjoyers here in f95zone. ORV is peak story telling and the 2nd half of the novel always breaks my heart.. q.q
i really hope they will nail the official english releases, because im def planning on buying them all *pained expression*
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I just saw the update and smhh. Aside from the fact that they almost made her BBW, her face doesn't look attractive either. They made a terrible choice, I wish they had done something like a survey before going down this path.
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Absolutely, and it's no wonder even with the larger part of the gaming industry that self-published indie games in recent years had equal to if not even more success than the massive publishers and AAA studios. This meddling and frankly unnecessary decisions most make is coming back to usually bite... In some cases I can understand the need for quality control, but at a certain point like this one when the meddling gets so bad they practically hijack the game, is it even the same game anymore?... Well, it is left to be seen. I just hope it doesn't turn out to be complete bs.
Also same and HELL YEAH FAM, I love ORV. I was introduced to it through the webtoon/manhwa, it got me really hooked early on and it was still during the COVID days anyway so I decided to binge the entire novel... I was not ready, that last third of the novel fucked me up for an entire month and a certain scene reveal after the wall got me tearing up a little. The themes of the story hit a little too close home ngl. It is definitly peak storytelling, I mean it literally won Munpia's Daesang award three editions in a row, god damn lol. Hopefully the webtoon continues doing it justice step by step, it will be very cool to see the later parts illustrated in the future
.let's be happy that (Sweet Baby Inc.) doesn't have anything with this type of games because oooooo boy, it's going to be a disaster from no coming back.
Art just keeps getting worse with each update they have completely fucked up chiho design and even removed the skirt because it would be "too difficult to animate" what a joke
Edit: Also tiramisu no longer giving the updates i guess they finally told him to fuck off sigh...
Edit: Also tiramisu no longer giving the updates i guess they finally told him to fuck off sigh...
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This is more of a reboot than a remake, so yes, you are right. They should have come clean about their true intentions instead of sugarcoating it.
Guys, I just played and the save in first slot goes to the ending, which is fine. But I played a 2nd slot and I am already past day 90 all onsen done and shota is cuckolded, yet I cannot see the ending as the 1st slot. Is it bugged?
Also I recall that at some point the succubus has a talk with MC and it has a story where at the end MC defeats her (first CG once you unlock succubus) but in my entire play I didn't see that 'talk', did I just unlock 6th ability and skipped that talk?
Also I recall that at some point the succubus has a talk with MC and it has a story where at the end MC defeats her (first CG once you unlock succubus) but in my entire play I didn't see that 'talk', did I just unlock 6th ability and skipped that talk?
Chiyo kind of reminds me of "La Grande Odalisque" by Ingres, maybe because of her posture while resting on the table ? I feel a deep eroticism emaning from her posture ; the way in how space is used to completely show off her body, but still hiding enough so that not anything is fully revealed, thus forcing the brain to make up for what can't be seen.
To be honest, I'm not a big fan of the way she looks now, I liked the first direction that the artstyle was taking, and a feminine body with decently exaggerated proportions really felt right for a young and newlywed couple.
People said earlier that she looks fatter, and I agree on this : the legs and the behind of the female really feel off, maybe even too much. It may be because the game is going to be much bigger than before ; you guys saw the map, we are going to play in a full-on appartment complex, so even if you see the characters from afar, you have to be able to distinguish them via unique traits (A muscular man for Ryosuke, a skinny salary man for the husband, and a really meaty woman for Chiyo.).
As the map became bigger, so did the characters, because they had to adapt to their new environment.
Finally, my main complaint would be the removal of her long skirt, I think that was one of the main elements that made Chiyo who she was. She's newlywed, young, and loves her husband : for decency, she had to wear something that would cover the entirety of her legs, not wanting everyone to see the feminine parts of her body. The cleavage is here for an obvious reason : it's a porn game ! But one may argue that the skirt is a symbol of modesty and cool tempered attitude, while the cleavage is mostly here to attract men and induce eroticism, making her "hotter", thus balancing it out with the dress.
With this outfit, Chiyo was oscillating between 2 states : the prostitute and the nun. The goal of the player, like a Satyr, was to transform this prude priestess into a love addicted nymph.
Now what can we see with her new pair of jeans ? Everything and nothing at once, the sensibilty that one may have found in the cleavage of the old Chiyo is gone, and we now have to see an awful, pyjama-esque top paired with a way too tight pair of pants, reminiscent of those, dare I say it, God-striken morbidly obese creatures that roam the streets in our everyday society.
I really wished they would have kept the thinner Chiyo, but alas ! I have confidence that Critical Bliss will put their all into this game, because it really has potential, and it looks like they're willing to use it to his maximum.
In conclusion, I'll still play the NTRAholic DX version, because man often finds comfort in his own trials.
To be honest, I'm not a big fan of the way she looks now, I liked the first direction that the artstyle was taking, and a feminine body with decently exaggerated proportions really felt right for a young and newlywed couple.
People said earlier that she looks fatter, and I agree on this : the legs and the behind of the female really feel off, maybe even too much. It may be because the game is going to be much bigger than before ; you guys saw the map, we are going to play in a full-on appartment complex, so even if you see the characters from afar, you have to be able to distinguish them via unique traits (A muscular man for Ryosuke, a skinny salary man for the husband, and a really meaty woman for Chiyo.).
As the map became bigger, so did the characters, because they had to adapt to their new environment.
Finally, my main complaint would be the removal of her long skirt, I think that was one of the main elements that made Chiyo who she was. She's newlywed, young, and loves her husband : for decency, she had to wear something that would cover the entirety of her legs, not wanting everyone to see the feminine parts of her body. The cleavage is here for an obvious reason : it's a porn game ! But one may argue that the skirt is a symbol of modesty and cool tempered attitude, while the cleavage is mostly here to attract men and induce eroticism, making her "hotter", thus balancing it out with the dress.
With this outfit, Chiyo was oscillating between 2 states : the prostitute and the nun. The goal of the player, like a Satyr, was to transform this prude priestess into a love addicted nymph.
Now what can we see with her new pair of jeans ? Everything and nothing at once, the sensibilty that one may have found in the cleavage of the old Chiyo is gone, and we now have to see an awful, pyjama-esque top paired with a way too tight pair of pants, reminiscent of those, dare I say it, God-striken morbidly obese creatures that roam the streets in our everyday society.
I really wished they would have kept the thinner Chiyo, but alas ! I have confidence that Critical Bliss will put their all into this game, because it really has potential, and it looks like they're willing to use it to his maximum.
In conclusion, I'll still play the NTRAholic DX version, because man often finds comfort in his own trials.
I think you are thinking too deeply on the art meaning. I am not a art major so maybe my uncultured mind can't see the art in porn but all the poses I seen are pretty common in hiding/cheating genre of games. Maybe in Netori games you are always playing the Satyr but nothing about this game seem that special or deep meaning.
As for Chiho's new look. It is honesty so different from what we know it is off-putting but my main issue is only with Chiho's standing picture because it reminds so much of this:
The images of her sex poses are fine. Maybe the original's Chiho's ass to thigh ratio was so unrealistic now the new artist wants a more realistic thigh ratio to match Chiho's big ass?
For the dress I actually like the tight jeans look. It gives her a more modern woman look instead of the traditional housewife. But if you like the long skirt then don't worry the earlier progress report said Chiho will have multiple outfits.
Chiho's new look is just a personal preference. I personally don't care too much because Tiramisu will give us the original game he promised. I don't care if he is okay with Critical Bless remaking his game into something that does not resemble the original. If you don't like her new look there is completed original game included with DX. Or since Critical Bless said they may support the game with other addons after release, if everyone hates new Chiho they can just add a DLC to switch to Chiho's old model in DX. Wow I think I figured out their sale strategy! Make the character look controversial on release so they can sell a DLC later to restore the old look! Those devious bastards!
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only problem i have is that she just looks way to slutty in each outfit, i think some of the charm of chiho was with her innocent outside appearance, and then turning her into a total slut over time