VN Ren'Py NTR'ed by My Friend [v0.4.2] [NTR.ai]

[elbro]

The VN is interesting to me so far. I don't know how many updates it has, but looking through the folders, the game doesn't have many renders.

I think that's why the transitions between scenes are noticeably fast. A little more detail between scenes, especially the bathroom scene, would be better for the player. Being too direct isn't so good for telling a story.

Another thing: Blake is the antagonist, and as such, he's fine, but so far, his personality seems like a joke. Perhaps a little more character development would help his image.

I hope the game's creator continues with this project and has fun making it; it'll improve along the way.

 

[NTR.ai]

The VN is interesting to me so far. I don't know how many updates it has, but looking through the folders, the game doesn't have many renders.

I think that's why the transitions between scenes are noticeably fast. A little more detail between scenes, especially the bathroom scene, would be better for the player. Being too direct isn't so good for telling a story.

Another thing: Blake is the antagonist, and as such, he's fine, but so far, his personality seems like a joke. Perhaps a little more character development would help his image.

I hope the game's creator continues with this project and has fun making it; it'll improve along the way.

Sorry, but the transitions scenes are about the one suggested by another member?

Now, pertaining to the animation: You absolutely don't have to sync reading speed and animations, but merely specific lines and animations. What I intended with my suggestion was essentially the following: Every animation so far loops endlessly. However, as soon as the line "She shifts instinctively, trying to pull away again [...]" comes up, you could end the endless loop and transition into a small animation where she attempts to more slowly lift her hips (to show the struggle) only to fall right back, only that his one does NOT loop. This means that it's quite literally a clip of a few seconds that ends after it has been played once. This then allows you to continue with still frames rather than animations without making the transition as abrupt as it is now (or continue with another animation for the thrusts; both are valid options). Furthermore, it more closely connects the text with the visuals. No need to anticipate reading speeds or anything futile like that.

If possible, could you elaborate a bit more on why you feel Blake's personality comes across as a joke? I’d love to understand your perspective better. Also, is there anything specific you’d like to see more of in terms of his character development?

Thanks for taking the time to share your feedback!

 

[damdadwa]

I know some people want to get into the action right away and I understand that. But this was too fast for me IMO. Could have played more of the mystery part with slower build up. It was going the right direction until that bathroom scene. Im loving the story so far but if it was meant to be short then i get it but I dont see where you can go from here they basically fucked already unless this was some type of dream.

If I were writing this game, I would delete that scene and keep it for a future scene. Instead they could do a massage part 2 where Male MC comes back and catches them massaging but she has her top off or something. Slower build up to make a longer game unless you want this to be short.

They went from almost touching her pussy through her shorts to penetration...

Playing this for free so appreciate any content anyways. Keep up the good work.

 

[elbro]

If possible, could you elaborate a bit more on why you feel Blake's personality comes across as a joke? I’d love to understand your perspective better. Also, is there anything specific you’d like to see more of in terms of his character development?

Thanks for taking the time to share your feedback!

He has a more stoner face that no one would take seriously, he seems very mocking.

It reminds me of the boy from Scary Movie


Blake as an antagonist, that's fine. Even if the idea is for him to be stoner and carefree, even immoral, Blake should have some notable trait that makes the protagonist feel insecure.

For example, a good contrast would be for the protagonist to work hard to earn money, but his friend works little but earns the same or more. Inviting them to dinner would be a good idea, and if you want to include a post-celebration scene, like the protagonist drinking a lot and passing out (NTR moment).

Another scenario is for him to bring different girls home, which could lead to Cristina seeing him having sex and sparking her curiosity.

You could have Blake have hobbies that catch Cristina's attention, like being a Big Brother. Although he's very laid-back, he'd like to be a father at some point. She's a teacher, so taking care of others could be something she enjoys.

 

[pr0dukt]

I know some people want to get into the action right away and I understand that. But this was too fast for me IMO. Could have played more of the mystery part with slower build up. It was going the right direction until that bathroom scene. Im loving the story so far but if it was meant to be short then i get it but I dont see where you can go from here they basically fucked already unless this was some type of dream.

If I were writing this game, I would delete that scene and keep it for a future scene. Instead they could do a massage part 2 where Male MC comes back and catches them massaging but she has her top off or something. Slower build up to make a longer game unless you want this to be short.

They went from almost touching her pussy through her shorts to penetration...

Playing this for free so appreciate any content anyways. Keep up the good work.

The first fuck doesn't always have to be the finish line. In fact, its usually just where shit starts to ramp up in some of the best NTR works to date.... I'm a fan of the slow burn in particular hard Netori or Netorare cases where it makes sense to ease in from a starting point relationship,.. but given they have some history already, and given the characterization of Blake in general... this pacing works just fine I think. I think dragging it out would only prove to frustrate the reader and throw the characters off... they can only do the 'treading the edge' so many times and so often in such close proximity to Alan, without him intuitively know whats going on, then it becomes a completely different kind of narrative.. So is probably fine tbh.

 

[jarngaffel]

I imagine "pulling out the NFA" is a metaphor I'm not familiar with, but I can roughly guess what you mean. Me referencing that some aspects go against conventional narrative practices technically supports your position, and I'll agree, as I believe I have already, that the scene is controversial and bound to make a subset of people here turn away from the product.

I'll also agree that he shouldn't fight overwhelmingly negative feedback, but from what I can tell, this scene is, at this point, merely divisive in its entirety. Let the man cook and if it's a dish you dislike, you don't have to eat it. Only if it's something essentially noone likes is it bad, arguably.

Well im a paying sub, I think its a blip on an otherwise solid art/animation. My point is that its going to get an eyebrow raised anytime someone that isn't a full coomer goes through the story and the same comment on the same scene will come up (I called that out right at the start). No matter how you try to over explain the premise it beggars belief, can only put up the popcorn and watch I suppose.

 

[NTR.ai]

Well im a paying sub, I think its a blip on an otherwise solid art/animation. My point is that its going to get an eyebrow raised anytime someone that isn't a full coomer goes through the story and the same comment on the same scene will come up (I called that out right at the start). No matter how you try to over explain the premise it beggars belief, can only put up the popcorn and watch I suppose.

I truly appreciate your support and for being one of the patrons. I was genuinely glad to explain the setup and some of the intentions behind it. But I want to make it clear—I wasn’t trying to convince you. I simply shared my motivations and creative reasoning so you’d know that I did hear your thoughts, and here was mine in return.

As for him and me, we didn’t “over explain” the premise. What I saw was someone who didn’t fully agree with the scene, but still respected my setup and helped revise it as long as the scene stayed. That, to me, is real respect—not like the others who just jump in saying what you should do, or questioning your choices, or preaching that NTR needs to be a “serious” genre. Who decided that?

Some people just spouted nonsense and couldn’t back up a single point. As for me, I really don’t get where I supposedly “over explained” anything. I didn’t say “Hey, this is how it works because of X, Y, and Z.” I just gave three simple reasons for why the scene exists: the “keep light off” personal behavior, the character relationship building, and the inspiration from typical porn stuck scenarios. That’s it.

And the funniest thing is, no one can clearly explain the difference between this and a stuck scene. If someone can, great—I’m open to hearing it. But if they can’t, then it’s not about the logic behind the scene—it’s just personal taste. They don’t like this type of setup. And that’s fine. But that doesn’t make it a joke or invalid. This type of setup is popular for a reason and clearly has its audience.

If I wanted to be just as subjective, I’d say taking NTR or any porn genre “seriously” is the actual joke. You can take documentaries, biographies, and history seriously—but porn? Are you writing a thesis now? That’s the kind of attitude they have: full of criticism, entirely subjective, claiming to “embrace diversity” while refusing to accept any perspective that doesn’t match their own. Hypocrites.

 

[NTR.ai]

I know some people want to get into the action right away and I understand that. But this was too fast for me IMO. Could have played more of the mystery part with slower build up. It was going the right direction until that bathroom scene. Im loving the story so far but if it was meant to be short then i get it but I dont see where you can go from here they basically fucked already unless this was some type of dream.

If I were writing this game, I would delete that scene and keep it for a future scene. Instead they could do a massage part 2 where Male MC comes back and catches them massaging but she has her top off or something. Slower build up to make a longer game unless you want this to be short.

They went from almost touching her pussy through her shorts to penetration...

Playing this for free so appreciate any content anyways. Keep up the good work.

Yeah, this game won’t be long. I stated on my Patreon that there will be only ten chapters.

And thank you for the feedback—especially considering that you’re not a fan of the scene yourself. I really appreciate that. It’s totally fair to point out what you think could be better, and I respect that a lot. What I value most is that you’re not like some others who come in acting like they’re absolutely right and have some kind of “professional” authority over what this genre should be.

 

[NTR.ai]

He has a more stoner face that no one would take seriously, he seems very mocking.
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It reminds me of the boy from Scary Movie
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Blake as an antagonist, that's fine. Even if the idea is for him to be stoner and carefree, even immoral, Blake should have some notable trait that makes the protagonist feel insecure.

For example, a good contrast would be for the protagonist to work hard to earn money, but his friend works little but earns the same or more. Inviting them to dinner would be a good idea, and if you want to include a post-celebration scene, like the protagonist drinking a lot and passing out (NTR moment).

Another scenario is for him to bring different girls home, which could lead to Cristina seeing him having sex and sparking her curiosity.

You could have Blake have hobbies that catch Cristina's attention, like being a Big Brother. Although he's very laid-back, he'd like to be a father at some point. She's a teacher, so taking care of others could be something she enjoys.

To be honest, the way you feel about him is exactly what I wanted to capture—he is a funny guy, but not like some people around here. He’s funny in a good way… except for the part where he’s trying to fuck his friend’s girlfriend.

But I totally get your point. I actually added some flashbacks of him and Alan in v0.5.1, just to start hinting at their past. That said, it’s still pretty minimal—mostly because up to now, his role has been just the friend, so the way he acts is pretty much the same.

Starting from v0.6.0, though, his position shifts—he begins transitioning into both predator and lover. So I’ll definitely be expanding on his personality from there, showing different layers beyond just the laid-back buddy vibe.

 

[jarngaffel]

I truly appreciate your support and for being one of the patrons. I was genuinely glad to explain the setup and some of the intentions behind it. But I want to make it clear—I wasn’t trying to convince you. I simply shared my motivations and creative reasoning so you’d know that I did hear your thoughts, and here was mine in return.

As for him and me, we didn’t “over explain” the premise. What I saw was someone who didn’t fully agree with the scene, but still respected my setup and helped revise it as long as the scene stayed. That, to me, is real respect—not like the others who just jump in saying what you should do, or questioning your choices, or preaching that NTR needs to be a “serious” genre. Who decided that?

Some people just spouted nonsense and couldn’t back up a single point. As for me, I really don’t get where I supposedly “over explained” anything. I didn’t say “Hey, this is how it works because of X, Y, and Z.” I just gave three simple reasons for why the scene exists: the “keep light off” personal behavior, the character relationship building, and the inspiration from typical porn stuck scenarios. That’s it.

And the funniest thing is, no one can clearly explain the difference between this and a stuck scene. If someone can, great—I’m open to hearing it. But if they can’t, then it’s not about the logic behind the scene—it’s just personal taste. They don’t like this type of setup. And that’s fine. But that doesn’t make it a joke or invalid. This type of setup is popular for a reason and clearly has its audience.

If I wanted to be just as subjective, I’d say taking NTR or any porn genre “seriously” is the actual joke. You can take documentaries, biographies, and history seriously—but porn? Are you writing a thesis now? That’s the kind of attitude they have: full of criticism, entirely subjective, claiming to “embrace diversity” while refusing to accept any perspective that doesn’t match their own. Hypocrites.

Ngl i think those arguments are silly, getting philosophical and think theres a rule to ntr writing is kinda eh considering there's so much crap out there but I guess people like what you did and got really emotional over it cause he did give a good rating before it.

For me im a simple man, I just don't think you can accidentally sit on a dick unless she knew he was there before and did it on purpose. At least if you're stuck no matter how silly it is, the initiation is by the other party with intent - whether it's more teasing or penetrative. At least people can imagine that scenario playing out if it was consensually ok to do so, I think that's where the difference is.

 

[NTR.ai]

Ngl i think those arguments are silly, getting philosophical and think theres a rule to ntr writing is kinda eh considering there's so much crap out there but I guess people like what you did and got really emotional over it cause he did give a good rating before it.

For me im a simple man, I just don't think you can accidentally sit on a dick unless she knew he was there before and did it on purpose. At least if you're stuck no matter how silly it is, the initiation is by the other party with intent - whether it's more teasing or penetrative. At least people can imagine that scenario playing out if it was consensually ok to do so, I think that's where the difference is.

I appreciate you pointing out the difference, it’s a fair observation. That said, stuck scenes typically start as accidents, not intentional situations. Sure, they escalate deliberately later, but the setup almost always involves the woman being stuck somewhere, and a man seeing it and taking advantage of the opportunity.

So yes, I agree that one side being actively predatory can be the key difference. But the people arguing against my scene were talking about “realism.” And honestly, although there is a difference between stuck scenes and mine in terms of escalation, the initialization is the same level of unrealistic. Who gets stuck with half their body on one side and the other half on the opposite side of a washing machine, a wall hole, or a garbage can?

And if the beginning is already that unrealistic, I don’t think adding realism to the escalation helps at all. Let’s just take one random example someone else brought up—someone who clearly thought he was being clever. If a woman steps on a banana peel and somehow gets stuck with the banana, and then some man sees that and decides to fuck her, does that make it more acceptable?

Once again, I prefer that agreement or disagreement be based on personal taste—there’s no superiority or inferiority in that. And personal taste has nothing to do with logical reasoning or anything like that. It’s just like how some people enjoy fantasy, while others prefer more “realistic” genres.

 

[Fitharia]

Animation wise pretty well done, AI wise, not interesting characters, story wise pretty bad, come on you don't tell me she just fell on his cock and it shoved right in as if that even possible and then say she didn't knew he was in the bathroom. I love the animations, but there it stops. Wanted to try it one more time but this is sadly one of those worse NTR games with no real story in it and just stupid mistakes to turn it into NTR.