VN Ren'Py OnlyFriends [Day 3 Part 1] [VIGOR]

[NakkiMuki]

"Between consanguineous relatives - no"

• That is, part of the charm left the game right away.

"Yes, I agree with you. It is impossible to sit on two chairs at the same time."

• Wrong. You can sit on ten chairs at the same time, as long as you put each fetish behind the avoidable button. In this case, the player decides what he wants to see and what he doesn't, which is a damn good thing if this is done. Then you bow in every direction and everyone is happy. But if you leave everything to be seen, then you get to say goodbye to a large part of the audience. Especially if the matter revolves a little between NTR and other men and women. That's when you need those avoidable buttons. Because if a surprise NTR comes into the game, the whole hater side will walk out of the game. And they never come back.
  
  If you decide to sit in all the chairs at the same time, you can still write the story almost as you want. The only thing is that the haters don't see anything they don't want to see, but they don't walk out of the game. But those scenes have to be avoidable from the very beginning and not skippable because the crap still happens in the background.

FOR ALL
I understand that there are a lot of NTR fans and also a lot of haters, but I think that I should not care)))

"I, first of all, should think about a good story, so I will tell you about my vision of this game."

• Wrong. The story doesn't matter a damn if crap comes on screen in the form of fetishes. You should read the previous paragraph. No NTR hater or other hard fetish hater will watch a "good story" if that crap comes on the screen. Then that whole crowd walks out of the game. It is then a wasted story if it has not been set as avoidable.

"But I want to make a story that I like, I want to make it for myself)) And in this case, the value of the tags is not very large. Of course, I understand that people want to know in advance what they will see, for this, as the game develops, I will add tags that appear there"

• You will learn that here, if somewhere, tags play a hell of a role. Many people don't even start playing if they can't see the upcoming tags. There's only one reason. The players have received too much surprise crap. Example now that NTR. If it's not mentioned, there will be a fucking war here.
  
  If you make a game for yourself, you will find that you will surely play it alone soon if you don't listen to this community and that group will become your supporters who might pay you something. So a reason to bow to the players.

"I will do them directly during the release of updates, so you will be warned from seeing what you don't want."

• It may be too late at that point and some have already left the game, especially when you can smell the bad smell from the pictures, i.e. NTR. The previous point is also suitable for this. That is, write those tags up in advance or you can answer those who ask them a million times.

EDIT: Oh, one little reminder, the NTR group can play all the games, but the NTR haters can't play anything where that crap is made unavoidable.

 

[goulet1995]

well looks like il be skipping this one for now usually when a dev doesn't want to answer it usually means it will be there. also saying you will add tags as they apear in updates sucks for people who might support a game that they wouldnt have otherwise sounds like you plan to add ntr but want to milk the non ntr crowd until its added because once its added and if unavoidable you can bet on a war in here

 

[ImperialD]

More than one man in a screenshot, won't be long before someone mentions those 3 letters...

what 3 letters

 

[DrakoGhoul]

It looks decent so I'll try this out.

 

[Fazed]

FOR ALL
I am very grateful to everyone that you responded and more than intelligibly explained to me the difference between NTR and natori, and other genres. But I would like to avoid further argument and philosophical discussion about "NTR and stuff" in this thread. I understand that there are a lot of NTR fans and also a lot of haters, but I think that I should not care))) I, first of all, should think about a good story, so I will tell you about my vision of this game.
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OK, so here is my take on this.

You are well within your right as the creator to make the story you want, and that is to be respected. If you want to make a story that you yourself like, then go for it...but realize you are also making erotic content that people other than yourself will consume. Everyone has their likes and dislikes and for lack of a better way to put it one bad scene is all it takes to kill a boner and all interest in the rest of the game.

So with that in mind just as you as the creator, are to be respected with your creative direction, you must also hold some respect for the people who will be playing your game. Nobody wants to get invested in a story(especially if its one with divisive themes, fetishes etc, ) sit and wait and even support it only to find out that it will take a turn in a direction that they do not like and were not warned about before.

That's quite simply a waste of time and emotion and we have seen this happen time and time again. That is why so many people are asking what is to come in the form of tags. It only makes sense given the pattern. i.e. a dev shows up and is vague/non-descriptive about the content and then boom, drops an unpleasant surprise that sets half the player base off and it goes downhill from there.

Being clear from the start can only help you. You don't need to spoil plot. Just knowing what content(tags) tells us nothing of how it will be portrayed and developed in your game so I find that defense on your part to be weak.

There is no negative outcome to doing this. People who like what is to come will stay and those that don't have a clear heads up as to what to expect. It's far less trouble for everyone that way. If you are clear from the start, no one can blame you, but if you keep being vague and things go sideways it will be too late to reason with folks after that. And this is for every fetish btw, not just NTR, it just happens to be the biggest one.

Anyway that's just what I think but I will say I am probably not the only one here that has been on this site for a while and have seen this to be proven true. Do with this information what you will.

Best wishes.

 

[Chris2041]

Look-see
Thanks for the clarification)
I'm not trying to throw a wide net, I just want to make the story that I planned.
We do not plan to introduce the ability to change the name of the character at the moment, maybe we will do it later.

Chris2041
Thank you too for the clarification)

Gudil

Thank you! I think in the same way that first of all I should make my own story that I myself want to see)

incest lover m/s
Between consanguineous relatives - no

AlfredBundy4


Thank you! Totally agree with you! This story is just beginning, we just released the prologue to introduce everyone to the characters. I think people need to let this story develop on its own, instead of being crushed by their desires.

porndude1977
Yes, I agree with you. It is impossible to sit on two chairs at the same time. - If there are people who are madly in love with something, then there will definitely be people who hate it (it's like with olives). And I don't want to bend to either side, I want to make a story that I have planned in advance and that I LOVE and I will hope that many more people will like it.

FOR ALL
I am very grateful to everyone that you responded and more than intelligibly explained to me the difference between NTR and natori, and other genres. But I would like to avoid further argument and philosophical discussion about "NTR and stuff" in this thread. I understand that there are a lot of NTR fans and also a lot of haters, but I think that I should not care))) I, first of all, should think about a good story, so I will tell you about my vision of this game.

This story is not the case when everything is written and invented on the spot. I have been thinking about this story for a long time and I already know what will happen in many, many, many releases))) For the next 3-4 updates, I have a very clear plot, of course, all the dialogues have not yet been written, but I know exactly what events will happen , on what topics and what the characters will talk about, what actions they will perform. And I do not plan to change it all in order to please someone. Of course, the temptation to please the audience and do what they like is very huge. But I want to make a story that I like, I want to make it for myself)) And in this case, the value of the tags is not very large. Of course, I understand that people want to know in advance what they will see, for this, as the game develops, I will add tags that appear there, I will do them directly during the release of updates, so you will be warned from seeing what you don't want. I already anpsial that Natori might be one of the tags of this game, at least Natori is a lot closer to this story than NTR. And I believe I may unnecessarily spoiler the plot of the story with more tags now. You will get to know them as the game progresses. Now I can say what will definitely not happen in history - Gay, bestiality, necrophilia, coprophilia, sex with pregnant women, Futa / Trans, incest between blood relatives, tentacles and other, in my opinion, severe forms of fetishes.

Also, this story will not be very fast, it is suitable for those who like to "burn slowly". Therefore, you should not expect that all the characters will start to fuck each other in the second or third part))) I want to create a story (and this is very important to me) so that there is chemistry between the characters. So that in the sexual connection of someone there is a context, some kind of prehistory of at least one of the participants. so that we can see and understand his motivation, why and for what he does it: For the sake of some benefit? Or out of fear? Or because it has feelings for a partner?
I want to recreate the good, realistic relationship between the characters before they start doing something sexual.
I've never really liked games and stories where everything happens quickly and without any sense, something like: "Hello, Pretty Boy! You have such cool shoes! I'll tell you a secret - leather shoes really turn me on ... Maybe you do you want me to suck you?"- sorry, but this is not for me))) There are many games with this approach, for example "Tamara's Exposure" (in no way do I offend the author, he's done well) - quick sex out of the blue... It certainly looks sexy and your The dick may well become hard because of this, but for me personally, it is missing something incredibly important. I prefer the good old "Project SAGE" - the game because of which I fell in love with erotic VNs, there is fire in such stories.
I want all the main characters to have their own story, their own problems and desires, so that we understand the reason and motivation for their actions in this or that situation - this is what I want to try to create.

I also want to be able to make this story love and romantic or vice versa full of lust and debauchery, depending on the choice of the players. Therefore, please, let's not escalate the atmosphere with tags and the "eternal dispute" about NTR now. Let's just let this story develop and see what happens next))) I came up with a lot of interesting things for this story, I planned it for a very long time and I'm sure that there will definitely be people who will like it as much as I like it.))

Well I already tell you, better tell beforehand than later people are gonna get angry and I don't think I try the game until you are clear whit what you want only I say if this game is gonna have NTR tell now
Well is your decision good luck you are gonna need it

 

[Resteda]

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[Look-see]

the real crime is not being able to change MC's name.

 

[BlasKyau]

After reading the future tags, I guess it's best to wait and see how the project progresses. I hope the NTR is avoidable.

Will the group sex be the MC with several LIs? Or will it include other guys besides or without the MC? If the latter, is it avoidable?

Also, since it doesn't have the harem tag, I'm going to assume the game only allows one standalone ending with each LI. If so, and after completely ruling out the girl showing her ass to the guys in the office as a possible LI, how many LIs does the game have? If not harem, can you avoid all relationships, sexual or romantic, with all but one LI? can you only have MC sex scenes with the LI you want to have the ending with and avoid all sex scenes with the other LIs?

the real crime is not being able to change MC's name.

Me, in the last games in which I have been forced to choose the MC's name, I have called the MC "asdf" and when they asked for his last name I have put "ñlkj" (don't ask me how to pronounce it).

EDIT: I include the message translated by the Dev and delete the one in Russian.

Chris2041
Fazed
goulet1995
NakkiMuki

I thought about it, analyzed the future plot, consulted with experts and came to the conclusion that Netori and NTR will still be in the plot in some scenes. Therefore, the NTR tag is added to future tags so that this does not bother anyone in the future and this does not turn out to be an unpleasant surprise for anyone. I think the topic can be closed. To your health

Does that mean it's (NTR) unavoidable or can it be avoided if you follow a different path?

 

[VIGOR GAMES]

Chris2041
Fazed
goulet1995
NakkiMuki

I thought about it, analyzed the future plot, consulted with experts and came to the conclusion that Netori and NTR will still be in the plot in some scenes. Therefore, the NTR tag is added to future tags so that this does not bother anyone in the future and this does not turn out to be an unpleasant surprise for anyone. I think the topic can be closed. To your health

 

[NakkiMuki]

Chris2041
Fazed
goulet1995
NakkiMuki

I thought about it, analyzed the future plot, consulted with experts and came to the conclusion that Netori and NTR will still be in the plot in some scenes. Therefore, the NTR tag is added to future tags so that this does not bother anyone in the future and this does not turn out to be an unpleasant surprise for anyone. I think the topic can be closed. To your health

So NTR is not avoidable?

Ok guys let's get out of here, nothing to see here.

 

[goulet1995]

Chris2041
Fazed
goulet1995
NakkiMuki

I thought about it, analyzed the future plot, consulted with experts and came to the conclusion that Netori and NTR will still be in the plot in some scenes. Therefore, the NTR tag is added to future tags so that this does not bother anyone in the future and this does not turn out to be an unpleasant surprise for anyone. I think the topic can be closed. To your health

i apreciate you clarifying whether it will or wont only other question i have is if its avoidable by choices made in game if it not good luck with your game and i think that being clear about the ntr tag will help you in the long run its better to lose some people now who wont be into it then have the game review bombed and shit on by angry people who would be suprised by it

 

[Dippy2]

My interest is peaked, art style isn't particularly to my taste but if the story and writing hold up will be keeping tabs on this one.

 

[BlasKyau]

After reading the future tags, I guess it's best to wait and see how the project progresses. I hope the NTR is avoidable.

Will the group sex be the MC with several LIs? Or will it include other guys besides or without the MC? If the latter, is it avoidable?

Also, since it doesn't have the harem tag, I'm going to assume the game only allows one standalone ending with each LI. If so, and after completely ruling out the girl showing her ass to the guys in the office as a possible LI, how many LIs does the game have? If not harem, can you avoid all relationships, sexual or romantic, with all but one LI? can you only have MC sex scenes with the LI you want to have the ending with and avoid all sex scenes with the other LIs?



Me, in the last games in which I have been forced to choose the MC's name, I have called the MC "asdf" and when they asked for his last name I have put "ñlkj" (don't ask me how to pronounce it).

EDIT: I include the message translated by the Dev and delete the one in Russian.



Does that mean it's (NTR) unavoidable or can it be avoided if you follow a different path?

Chris2041
Fazed
goulet1995
NakkiMuki

I thought about it, analyzed the future plot, consulted with experts and came to the conclusion that Netori and NTR will still be in the plot in some scenes. Therefore, the NTR tag is added to future tags so that this does not bother anyone in the future and this does not turn out to be an unpleasant surprise for anyone. I think the topic can be closed. To your health

In the absence of an answer, I'll assume the NTR is unavoidable.

I guess then it's best to wish the Dev luck and go looking for a game that might interest me.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

I don't like the graphics, it reminds me of when I played artifical girl 2 on pc.

 

[Andonthatday]

10/10 title name

 

[Puma1978]

Looks really interesting...i ll keep an eye on it. Especially since it should also support the main game of the DEV.

 

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[baka]

I answered in the other thread.
but same here. for this game I hope u continue doing what u are doing. I like it so far.
so I dont want it to be a vanilla game where only the MC gets all girls. I enjoy it if there some sharing and other kinky stuff. light stuff but still corruption. and romance as well. combination of all.

 

[VIGOR GAMES]

I answered in the other thread.
but same here. for this game I hope u continue doing what u are doing. I like it so far.
so I dont want it to be a vanilla game where only the MC gets all girls. I enjoy it if there some sharing and other kinky stuff. light stuff but still corruption. and romance as well. combination of all.

Oh, there will be plenty of corruption in this game!) as well as exchanges and romance =)
I remember you from when I first settled on this forum and followed Project SAGE, you posted there often. I am sure that if you liked Project SAGE, then you will like this game)