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Good that you clarified that the girls will be sluts along the line regardless of what the MC's influence is.

Initial thoughts and impressions:
It's already pretty much a given that Valerie is an exhibitionist and likely a whore-to-the-core persona based on how she initially questions if the opther assistants were sleeping with the director for their large salaries/bonuses, but she then seemed to accept it as fine as long as she got paid just a few comments later in the conversation. Add this to her suggestive poses on the beach and it's expected that she'll very soon be filled in all holes by any dick that is available, regardless of what money she may or may not earn as a bonus at work. I especially expect this as her current BF calls her "cat behavior" and apparently is ok being a cuck as long as he doesn't know about it, just so long as she doesn't leave him. Add in him not pursuing anything beyond running the family factory and she's pretty much got 'justification' for any whore/slut activities she feels are a result of that decision.

Bella strikes as the supposedly "nice girl" but her actions on the beach where she flaunted the kiss with one leg up and then both legs raised to wrap around Ryan, as well as her flashing her (barely) covered snatch at Dylan and Misha a little later shows that she's much like Valerie in her mentality, she's just not reached the point of not caring like Valerie has. Bella is more the "secret slut" where she wants the attention and sex, just is still concerned with the impression others have of her (at least for now). It didn't seem as "on-purpose" when she initially raised one foot on the bench in the park so the guys could look at her ass, but that was also (expected) to be her wanting the attention. I'd also expect her to likely be having sex with the dude she and her mom are staying with as payment to not kick them out, or at minimum if that happens very soon in the story (since you know, it has to happen in all NTR stories.)

So bottom line is both women are expected to eventually be sluts, maybe one sooner than later, and at least one will likely be a whore (as true defininition by being paid for sex). So the assumption is that the MC would want a slut as a GF? Why? I know it's not in the story, but some dudes do have values or at least the self-worth to not want to tie a board to their ass, so they didnn't fall into the gaping used snatch of some slut, you have to take a number to get "personal time" with.

This isn't an anti-NTR rant, just kinda curious if the story purpose is to cater to that crowd and the "women are all sluts to be used" mentality that inevitably follows it. I could be wrong in my initial impressions of the girls and where the story is headed, but based on the perceptions so far and backed up by this post, it would be difficult (for me at least as personally I don't really lean to have any 'relationshiop' with a slut with dozens/hundreds of guys in their pussy over time) to actually get involved in the story/game. So far this only seems like "just another fuck fest with whore/slutty women" anytime a female character is even close to a MC that's the same tired story for dozens of games already on the site.

Not expecting you to cater to me as a response, but if the initial impresion is wrong, be happy to hear any thoughts otherwise just for more clarity on expected story (without giving things away of course as the writers perogative)
How nice it is for me to read such messages, something at least someone is trying to delve into the plot and discuss it:)

In the situation with Valery, everything seems to be on the surface and is visible to the naked eye. Then she likes the attention of strangers whoever it is and she tries to attract him in any way. Probably in this way she feeds her pride and increases her self-esteem, thereby increasing her significance for herself. But will it be possible to call her a whore in the classical sense (when sexual intercourse occurs solely for money or the acquisition of some benefit)? But what if she does it solely for the sake of obtaining her own pleasure and satisfaction of her sexual desires? Can you call her a whore then? Or is she more of a nymphomaniac? I am sure that Valerie will still open herself from unexpected sides. Now she is trying to figure out who she is. She feels a stormy sexual energy in herself, which she cannot always contain and the fact that she is very attracted to the attention of the opposite sex (and she fucking loves it), but she has not yet decided what to do with all this. She knows for sure that she can use it for her career goals and to achieve something, but will she do it? Moreover, Valery is from a prosperous, wealthy family and she is not terribly obsessed with money and she does not have a need for them. Yes, she is looking for a job, but she needs a job more to cover her current, personal expenses: cosmetics, gadgets, clothes, etc. And she doesn't have to worry about that at all. that she will eat tomorrow or where she will spend the night tomorrow - they will always feed her at home and cover her with a blanket. In the near future, the story will tell about how Valerie tests herself and will try to understand how far she can go for pleasure and what she will still choose if life puts her in front of a difficult choice ...

With Bella, the situation is much more complicated and we can say that it is the opposite.
Bella is a shy, modest girl and, unlike Valery, the attention of other men scares her rather than attracts her. And I think that it will not be a secret that they used to have some kind of history with Dylan ... but Dylan then left and it is not yet clear how she took it. Is it possible that her inept attempts to get attention are directed solely at Dylan? And she doesn't want everyone else's attention, and she just wants to make Dylan regret what he lost and purposely demonstrate how happy they are now with his best friend to cause jealousy?
At the same time, Bella also understands that she is quite attractive and sexy. She may not be as bright and spectacular as Valerie, but she knows for sure that she is definitely beautiful. And perhaps she also wants to show that she is also worth something, but against the background of the bright Valery, she is lost and shy. In other words, Valerie is putting her down and Bella doesn't like it very much. Maybe it's jealousy...? And I am sure that Bella will try to get out from under Valerie's shadow and show that she is also an attractive girl, perhaps even better than this wild doll.
At the same time, Bella has a completely opposite situation in the family. She lives with her mother in the house of her mother’s man, while her mother is disabled and there is a catastrophic lack of money in their house, in addition, her mother’s man can kick them out of the house at any second ... and what will she be like when she is on the street with her mother disabled? It gnaws at her every minute and never gives her peace. In this context, the shy Bella can become a whore much faster than the depraved Valerie. But that's not all the circumstances that you know about Bella. In the next two in-game days, you will get to know Bella much better and will be able to better understand her character and motives that will move her throughout this story.
In general, I admit that Bella is definitely the central character in this whole story. This story will be more about her and her changes, but told from Dylan's point of view.

Regarding Dylan's future possible girlfriend: There will definitely be more female characters in the story. And it is not at all necessary that Valery or Bella become his permanent girlfriend. Perhaps it will be someone from those who have not yet entered this story;)
 

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How nice it is for me to read such messages, something at least someone is trying to delve into the plot and discuss it:)

In the situation with Valery, everything seems to be on the surface and is visible to the naked eye. Then she likes the attention of strangers whoever it is and she tries to attract him in any way. Probably in this way she feeds her pride and increases her self-esteem, thereby increasing her significance for herself. But will it be possible to call her a whore in the classical sense (when sexual intercourse occurs solely for money or the acquisition of some benefit)? But what if she does it solely for the sake of obtaining her own pleasure and satisfaction of her sexual desires? Can you call her a whore then? Or is she more of a nymphomaniac? I am sure that Valerie will still open herself from unexpected sides. Now she is trying to figure out who she is. She feels a stormy sexual energy in herself, which she cannot always contain and the fact that she is very attracted to the attention of the opposite sex (and she fucking loves it), but she has not yet decided what to do with all this. She knows for sure that she can use it for her career goals and to achieve something, but will she do it? Moreover, Valery is from a prosperous, wealthy family and she is not terribly obsessed with money and she does not have a need for them. Yes, she is looking for a job, but she needs a job more to cover her current, personal expenses: cosmetics, gadgets, clothes, etc. And she doesn't have to worry about that at all. that she will eat tomorrow or where she will spend the night tomorrow - they will always feed her at home and cover her with a blanket. In the near future, the story will tell about how Valerie tests herself and will try to understand how far she can go for pleasure and what she will still choose if life puts her in front of a difficult choice ...

With Bella, the situation is much more complicated and we can say that it is the opposite.
Bella is a shy, modest girl and, unlike Valery, the attention of other men scares her rather than attracts her. And I think that it will not be a secret that they used to have some kind of history with Dylan ... but Dylan then left and it is not yet clear how she took it. Is it possible that her inept attempts to get attention are directed solely at Dylan? And she doesn't want everyone else's attention, and she just wants to make Dylan regret what he lost and purposely demonstrate how happy they are now with his best friend to cause jealousy?
At the same time, Bella also understands that she is quite attractive and sexy. She may not be as bright and spectacular as Valerie, but she knows for sure that she is definitely beautiful. And perhaps she also wants to show that she is also worth something, but against the background of the bright Valery, she is lost and shy. In other words, Valerie is putting her down and Bella doesn't like it very much. Maybe it's jealousy...? And I am sure that Bella will try to get out from under Valerie's shadow and show that she is also an attractive girl, perhaps even better than this wild doll.
At the same time, Bella has a completely opposite situation in the family. She lives with her mother in the house of her mother’s man, while her mother is disabled and there is a catastrophic lack of money in their house, in addition, her mother’s man can kick them out of the house at any second ... and what will she be like when she is on the street with her mother disabled? It gnaws at her every minute and never gives her peace. In this context, the shy Bella can become a whore much faster than the depraved Valerie. But that's not all the circumstances that you know about Bella. In the next two in-game days, you will get to know Bella much better and will be able to better understand her character and motives that will move her throughout this story.
In general, I admit that Bella is definitely the central character in this whole story. This story will be more about her and her changes, but told from Dylan's point of view.

Regarding Dylan's future possible girlfriend: There will definitely be more female characters in the story. And it is not at all necessary that Valery or Bella become his permanent girlfriend. Perhaps it will be someone from those who have not yet entered this story;)
Nice response, appreciate the time and thoughts. :)

So to boil down what you said.. Yes, if Valerie takes money, or some other favor in return for sex, yep she's literally a whore. It doesn't matter if she likes sex, or would have done the same actions without some form of compensation, she legit is a whore if there is anything else earned or gained from that.

For the rest, eh, it's all justification for Valerie to have loose sex with as many swinging dicks (or hard dicks) as she can along the way. She's already the established wild child so the expectation is for her to early and often spread her lips (both upper and lower) for as many sexual situations as she can. Sure, you can try to wrap it up in some 'conflicting emotions' on her part, but ultimately, we can probably all predict that any second-guesses or reservations will be overlooked and not stop her sexual activities. Even if she DID somehow resist what you're calling "temptation", I am sure someone will coerce or otherwise 'force' her to have sex and when she does, she'll magically then lose any reservations and become a dick-slave. That's how these stories usually go, if they follow the tropes and standard progression.

Hmm, regarding Bella, it's obvious she's filling in the "shy but will engage in sex and come to love it, poor girl" trope as well. I get the part of how she felt when Dylan left, being a influencer on her behavior, which was also suggested in the story, when she mentioned him leaving things that he loved behind (if you chose her to stay behind in the initial conversation). There's also the situation of trying too hard, and her going beyond what Dylan would find acceptable in her behavior, but then again maybe he wants a slut? From his conversations, both internal and external he seems to want a whore/slut more than anything else at the moment.

For the Valerie vs. Bella thing, that's al related to self-confidence and could easily be grown and improve her self worth without turning to seeing who can be the biggest slut with the most gaping cunt available, if the story was written that way. But let's face it, it's a porn story so of course the only way she could see to compete with Valerie is to become a bigger slut than she Val is, or at least perceived to be, regardless of how Bella is 'supposed to feel' or the self excuses she makes to justify it. It's likely and expected that some justification will be made so it's 'ok' for her to go down that path with less and less reservations along the way.

Agreed on the potential for Bella becoming a whore very quickly, either on the street (and I am sure Dylan and Mischa would DP her like the achievement predicts) or selling herself so she and her mom aren't kicked out of the house. The first hadn't come to mind (street whore), but second option definitely did (house whore), if it hasn't already been happening and the player just doesn't know it yet.

If Bella is the main female character then it looks like you're definitely going as fast as possible down the "women are sluts/whores/to be used and abused" trope for the typical female MC game with the caveat of Dylan being the narrator instead of the female slut herself. If she's the female MC then it's expected we'll see her shoved down a corruption route as fast as possible in the story (we'd exect) because in NTR focused games, which this story has obvious plans to become, must have the weak, easily manipulated women in them to be successful. This isn't a bash on NTR, it's just that female type chatacter is a trope for that genre for a reason, just like the "magic horse dick" for the 'unsavory' guy that makes all women fall in love instantly and the "i got raped until I loved it" mentality/trope for the women.

If Dylan's future GF comes from a yet to be introduced character, why bother? I don't mean that in a negative way, but if Bella is the main female MC, and the story will (we presume) be about her 'downfall' and corruption, why even bother adding some other woman to the story? At best they would be just a side deal/mini-story while this saga/drama unfolds with Val and Bella and waiting when, not if, they both become cocksleeves in accordance with the "poor girl, she was so nice, then was corrupted through no fault of her own and it's too bad she's a $1/suck or known as the neighboor cumsleeve" eventual paths that women in these games travel. :ROFLMAO:
 
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Also, just wanted to say that if done right, Bella could be one of the most interesting parts of the story with her situation and apparent personality and looks. This is without becomong a cumslut or whore, but creative writing.

With the responses in the thread so far she'll really not be worth getting interested in, other than to see what corruption she'll hit and if she gives in instantly, fakes rejection of the situation a little and then caves, or is forced into things. Basically, when will she get stretched by as many cocks as possible, and how quick it occurs.

A good character to fap to maybe, but definitely not one to really invest anything in, unless someone really likes coruption games and stereotypical female characters. Too bad, she had promise, but not so much now, other than to wait for her sex animations that are sure to come very soon.
 

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This is pretty interesting. It's not a story that is bound by tags. It takes courage to stick with the story you want to tell instead of molding the plot to fit neatly into the boxes dictated by tags. There are NTRish situations, but they are not truly NTR for the NTR fans, at least not yet. It's still NTRish enough to drive off most hardcore harem fans, though. I think the real direction of the story will be netori based more so than NTR, but it's also not a simple netori story. The characters have some depth, surprisingly.

I like the thought behind dialogues and characterizations, but oh man... it's really verbose. It's so wordy. For example, the conversation with that black friend when Bella doesn't join you on the walk is quite interesting. How the friend dynamics were portrayed was well done. But we're reading like full paragraphs after paragraphs in that scene. Still, considering the dev is probably Russian, the English is quite decent.
 

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Dude why is it taking five minutes of hitting the space bar to pass the photoshoot scene? Waay too much time dedicated to this scene that we cannot skip on first try. Please change that option. Some people like a story and some don't, just give us a choice.
 

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bruh turn on skip unseen text please im gonna get carpal from this shit
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Dude why is it taking five minutes of hitting the space bar to pass the photoshoot scene? Waay too much time dedicated to this scene that we cannot skip on first try. Please change that option. Some people like a story and some don't, just give us a choice.
I will fix it in the next update

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Did you give us a two-star review for removing the ability to skip scenes? Really???:oops: :)
 
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Did you give us a two-star review for removing the ability to skip scenes? Really???:oops: :)
I didn't even realize that was possible. All the RenPy games I've played thus far don't have that enabled, seems stupid to expect it to be enabled by default in this game.

Love the models so far dev (and the skimpy outfits!!!), I hope your plans aren't to make it another run of the mill anime kinetic VN. Honey Select based games always turn out like this and turn me right off.

Also hopefully your plans for NTR are either optional or not included, but its your game so you do you!
 
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Not involving the police because "there is no law against jerking of in public places" is this story taking place in an alternate Dimension?
Yes. I propose to consider that this story takes place in an alternative universe that is very, very similar to ours. At a minimum, we already have fictional locations - Paradise Bay, Vigor City, DreamTown, which are not in our world. And I specifically did not indicate in the plot the country where the events take place. In my mind, this is a fictional country with a large coastal zone, something like our Argentina)) But the most important thing is that the game will not be able to completely recreate all the customs, traditions and laws of our world. It must be remembered that this is primarily a work of art and it has the right to some deviations from reality.


Scandal means something else than author thinks, maybe he meant "cause a scene"?
Unfortunately, I don't understand what you are talking about here. What specific point are you referring to?
 
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I really like how you analyze history and try to figure it out)
It is a pity that, unfortunately, very few people can immerse themselves in history so much. It seems to me that most players simply skip all the dialogues just to look at the pictures)

As for that "why do you need another girl?" There are several reasons: The most obvious - the more girls the more interesting) But for the structure of the story itself, this is no less valuable - how can the appearance of a romantic relationship with Dylan affect Bella? Will she be jealous and try to retaliate on her part? Or will she accept her as a new member of the team?) The appearance of such a character will serve as an excellent trigger for Bella and for the course of the story as a whole)

About the fact that "Bella will be a whore very soon" ...
Here I would argue) Initially, thinking through this story, I laid the fact that all the transformations with Bella would occur gradually and I would not rush with her before sending her to a feast for the vultures)) I myself love games with "slow burning" and in In the case of Bella, I want to enjoy it very, very slowly...
 
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