- Nov 24, 2019
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Ok let me rename Daisy then,I also want at least half the scenes from Daisy's pov. I also want Daisy's internal monologue.
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Ok let me rename Daisy then,I also want at least half the scenes from Daisy's pov. I also want Daisy's internal monologue.
- Aug 13, 2021
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I think most of us can agree that this is not needed.
- Nov 29, 2019
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That was my point. It's not NTR in my eyes at least it's not close enough to cause me to dislike her for that part. Her predatory ways and likely disturbing upbringing is what may cause me to not like her. The jury is still out on that one.
- Sep 8, 2020
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I agree Daisy's behavior can be problematic but considering she is also considered a protagonist, this story is just as much about her and her past & future as it is the MC's. While she does seem to overstep by her actions, her inner dialogue/PoV makes her sympathetic to me beyond the usual porn logic.
The fact that she sees how estranged her fiancé is from his family, she immediately perceives the issue having to do with a lack of honesty (for their possible inner feelings of mutual attraction) and intimacy. The latter of which she goes off of her own experience, in which she was raised in a loving, physical/sexual relationship with her own mother and sisters where there was no judgement or shame over the way they choose to express their sexual needs, curiosity, desire as well as the strengthened emotional familial connection/bond they share.
In this regard, whether appropriate or not, she believes she is working essentially as a family therapist in bridging the gap the MC and his family currently find themselves when we start off this VN. Sure, because she is so secure in who she is as a person and how she relates to her own family, along with her own obvious bisexuality, helps her to reach future mother and sister-in-law into being honest with themselves and to help destroy the walls that separated them from being a loving, more honest and emotionally secure family.
Since Daisy's motivations are more selfless and not selfish, she obviously intends to share her own family love with her fiancé and his family. The fact she encourages the MC to be more intimate with not only his sister, but his mother as well as her own eventually leads me to believe in this case the ends justify the means. Particularly since there has been no negative fallout....yet.
- Jul 21, 2020
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I somewhat agree but she's also being very manipulative (kinda grooming but not since the sister is adult but naive) and the fact that her family very obviously groomed Daisy and her sisters into thinking that sexual relations within the family is normal. It feels stupid to discuss when it's an incest game and I play plenty of them but I think this is the first time a game has kinda hit that weird uncanny valley kind of thing when it comes to "corruption". It's pretty realistic and the fact that she was "groomed" and does it to others is also realistic. Because at the end of the day no sane person would think that a parent having sexual relations with their young kid (Daisy back in the day) hasn't been groomed.
Don't take this the wrong way either, in no way am I ripping on the dev for this, it would actually make for a pretty good story if it all started coming apart (the relationships and how Daisy starts realizing she and her sisters could be victims). Granted that kind of story development is usually beyond the scope of most writers on here. But I think it's probably a cool little accident that this porn game could potentially have such a profound story or perhaps it's been the devs intention all along... but probably not!
- Nov 24, 2019
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Go look at the tags on Rise of the Crime lord. Then get back with me
- Sep 8, 2020
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I mean sure, if we're talking about irl, there would be so many red flags going here, but considering this is just an AVN set in a modern time period with a heavy incest and family sharing theme, I choose to believe Daisy's mom opted to raise her daughters to be open-minded and without shame when it came to expressing themselves, their bodies, and their sexuality. As long as its always been consensual (we don't know at what age things got sexual with Daisy and her mother), I'd like to hold off on the actual grooming portion as that implies intent. I'm much more comfortable that certain erotic feelings of attraction and love developed organically and over the course of freely answering any questions about love, sex and emotions...and as porn logic often takes it from here...one thing lead to another and before they knew it, they found themselves embracing, kissing, etc.
I'd like to believe Daisy's mom isn't a predator and will share her and her daughter's history with the MC in an attempt to be transparent and open about their family relationship dynamic. As for how manipulative Daisy is with the MC's sister, I imagine while she has an ulterior motive, she also sees a part of her in her future sister-in-law. Taking her own mother's role of being a more experienced guide and source of information, she is just sharing and answering the young girl's questions and making her feel secure exploring her own sexuality. Remember, when we start off, the MC's little sister, while 18, couldn't be more innocent and ignorant when it comes to sex, love, and her own sexual awakening. She likes and trusts Daisy immediately but soon finds herself flooded with all these new feelings and desires and Daisy just happens to be the person she goes to for advice and information.
- Jan 6, 2021
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I can't see this game going in a serious direction like that. Its very lighthearted and just "wholesome" incest. People are taking this too seriously.
Daisy could probably bang the sister but I think what she really wants is some family sex (like the MC, daisy, sister, mother)..that will probably be the ending
- Jul 5, 2019
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A man who gets it
- Jan 10, 2019
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This is truly a delightful game and Daisy is the icing on the cake. Other games have probably done it, but I love how Daisy is the match that lights the fire to alot of enjoyable corruption! In my opinion congrats on a hidden gem.
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I think Lauren looked better with the hair in the flashback.
Also, a few times in chapter 8 I noticed that the face in the bottom left corner didn't match the character speaking. It's something I've seen in other games that use the little avatars at the bottom of the screen. It wasn't a huge problem, so I didn't bother taking screen shots.
However, the follow times when the MC was called Andy and not my player input name were very immersion breaking. Not sure if anyone else had these issues but I thought I'd point them out.
They all came after the date with Lisa.
Oddly before this next one Lauren used the correct name at one point and then used Andy again after that.
Also, there was a missing image after Lauren and Lisa fall asleep.
Also, a few times in chapter 8 I noticed that the face in the bottom left corner didn't match the character speaking. It's something I've seen in other games that use the little avatars at the bottom of the screen. It wasn't a huge problem, so I didn't bother taking screen shots.
However, the follow times when the MC was called Andy and not my player input name were very immersion breaking. Not sure if anyone else had these issues but I thought I'd point them out.
They all came after the date with Lisa.
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Also, there was a missing image after Lauren and Lisa fall asleep.
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