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JonTommy

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Just finished the update, not sure why people are upset about the Zara thing the MC encouraged it and besides the two handmaidens she was pleasured by are obviously part of the harem but that was in the last update anyway so on to my thoughts on this one.

The tone shift in this update is pretty fucking wild and disappointing ngl. First scene with Pip? Tentacle rape. Noel? Aside from the MC acting like a creep (the dialogue was over the top) the scene is good if you choose to cuddle with her otherwise you have the option to jerk off on her or piss on her face and I don't recall watersports ever being brought up between either of them. The scene with Sybil? Come on. The MC was acting like a sleazebag rapist I specifically made choices that I thought would lead to a more romantic scene but nope doesn't matter apparently the MC is just going to turn her into a fucktoy anyway. What in the fuck was this update? Did you bring on another writer? It's nutty in the scene with Noel the MC acts like an absolute simp (until you choose to piss on her face of course) and with Sybil he's like the sexual predator boss from any generic avn.

I've been following this since it got posted here and this is the only update that really made me question the direction the game is going. So I'll just ask now: Is this the direction that the game will continue with where apparently the MC is cool with rape and acting like an absolute cunt toward Sybil or what? If so I'll go ahead and unfollow and bounce since it ain't for me anymore.
 

JonTommy

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I get people seem to think it's a tone shift, but I will refer you back to TD's post and the Cap being cool with Doc's plan from the beginning, for example. This just isn't a radical departure, really. It's more an evolution of character.
The scene with Sybil isn't an evolution of character, it's out of left field. There has been a tone shift whether people want to admit it or not. While I'm willing to overlook the whole tentacle rape thing especially since I'm given a choice (I'm just disappointed the first lewd scene with Pip doesn't directly involve the MC since ya know, he's the MC) but the none choices in the scene with Sybil and the way it ends is just gross.
 

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The scene with Sybil isn't an evolution of character, it's out of left field. There has been a tone shift whether people want to admit it or not.
It is heavily implied, literally in the prologue of the game, that Sybil enjoys being in relationships with a more dominant personality, as she was with Yoo-Ri. The Captain never abuses her in any way, but clearly engages with her in that same type of relationship. Not liking the direction something is going is not the same is it not making sense.
 
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Most good stories have something called a 'hero's journey' even if the hero is an anti-hero or whatever... to very loosely paraphrase: where they begin the story one way, answer a call to action, confront adversity, and change and evolve etc.

The fact that in many AVNs the character starts out as chad thundercock, is chad thundercock in the middle, and finishes as chad thundercock...is a deficiency in their writing, not a plus. If you want a good example of character evolution try OIALT or ORS or a variety of games.
 

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It is heavily implied, literally in the prologue of the game, that Sybil enjoys being in relationships with a more dominant personality, as she was with Yoo-Ri. The Captain never abuses her in any way, but clearly engages with her in that same type of relationship. Not liking the direction something is going is not the same is it not making sense.
I'm not talking about Sybil herself I'm talking about the MC he's never acted like that in the game and suddenly he's pissing on faces and forcing a girl to suck his cock clean even when she pulls back because she doesn't like the taste of his cum and then telling her she's his fucktoy? Brother if that ain't outta left field I dunno what is.
 

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I don't know what to tell you, I can cite tons of games where water sports weren't introduced first thing in the game play, but were later on in it, from Grandma's House, to Defending Lydia Collier, and on down the line. If you see it as an inconsistency in the way you are roleplaying the character...then don't choose to do it. It didn't stand out to me. As far as Sybil, I guess I just viewed it as him engaging in the type of relationship she was looking for, so again, didn't bother me. I respect that everybody can have a separate opinion though.
 
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Jumping ship to a game where your totally male best friend Jamie is constantly hanging out with all your LI's, I got bad news for you bud.
If it is somehow not immediately obvious to anyone reading this, this is a joke

On-topic though, while this update wasn't really for me, I'll patently wait for more actual Nyx scenes.
 

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Jumping ship to a game where your totally male best friend Jamie is constantly hanging out with all your LI's, I got bad news for you bud.
If it is somehow not immediately obvious to anyone reading this, this is a joke

On-topic though, while this update wasn't really for me, I'll patently wait for more actual Nyx scenes.
Anon wouldn't do that to us... WOULD HE???

OH GOD, OUT OF TOUCH ISN'T SAFE ANYMORE!
 

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how many AVNs you've played out of curiosity?
5?or less?
cause this Chad Thundercock .. is leaning towards a myth...
most AVN MCs are retarded creepos...that evolve in ... less than retarded creepos...
well over 350.
If you would like my take on them, here:
 
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The Captain has been drugged, tied up and diddled with magic, has impregnated multiple lizards, the ship's Doctor is a sexual mad scientist who gassed the crew with aphrodisiacs, your teacher is a porn star, and then not to mention the whole domination dynamic with Nyx which has gotten progressively more spicy as the updates have piled on...

I don't think some tentacles from a space witch with Green Lantern Powers seems all that out of left field as some people are making it out to be. It's like the very first thing I thought of when I saw Nyx's magic for the first time. Of course she's going to use them to make tentacles at some junction. I mean, what's the point of a sci-fi setting in a porn game if you don't go a little exotic with it sometimes?

That aside, the Zara complaint is just insane. Zara, hopped up on pregnancy hormones, used a couple of her hand maidens to get a little relief while on a call with the protagonist who is light years (?) away. I think you really need to re-examine what you get out of these type of games if that sort of scenario distresses you. Plus, she's a queen. If anything, the captain is part of her harem. :KEK:
Tentacles have little to do with it.
A Captain of a military vessel watches a crew-mate rape a prisoner. It's a career ending crime.
It not only degrades Nyx's character but the M.C.s as well.
 

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Tentacles have little to do with it.
A Captain of a military vessel watches a crew-mate rape a prisoner. It's a career ending crime.
It not only degrades Nyx's character but the M.C.s as well.
Really? Cuz in the Roman empire they used to do this thing called decimation in which one out of every 10 men in a cohort was executed by his fellow cohort. But you're clearly up on the military policies of the USF and Solar Alliance in this completely fictional universe that is part of a porn game...so you're probably right.
 

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Hey, your joking, but that would legit solve the massive tonal dissonance.
I could buy that shit from a Romulan Space Captain, but nothing in the story has hinted at totalitarianism, I was looking at this more like the Federation.
Framing is everything.
 
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Hey, your joking, but that would legit solve the massive tonal dissonance.
I could buy that shit from a Romulan Space Captain, but nothing in the story has hinted at totalitarianism, I was looking at this more like the Federation.
I'm actually not joking all that much. Look at Admiral Kali, and all the totalitarian propaganda in the museum in the prologue. Sure, the Captain often seems like a decent guy, or at least like he wants people to think of him as one...but look at his motivations re: his parents, or the way he treats his 'best friend' Lym. It's also quite clear in updates previous the military lied to him about his real mission. It has been hinted at everywhere, but I completely understand why most people engaging with a AVN are more concerned about the erotic content. Often I am too. Trust me, though, if you don't self insert as the Cap and think of yourself as the good guy...all the clues are there. It's unfortunate that it's taking people by surprise.

Not to mention the fact that the doctor is allowed to spread an aphrodisiac gas throughout the ship without anybody batting an eyelash about it!
 

Halbyn

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I'm actually not joking all that much. Look at Admiral Kali, and all the totalitarian propaganda in the museum in the prologue. Sure, the Captain often seems like a decent guy, or at least like he wants people to think of him as one...but look at his motivations re: his parents, or the way he treats his 'best friend' Lym. It's also quite clear in updates previous the military lied to him about his real mission. It has been hinted at everywhere, but I completely understand why most people engaging with a AVN are more concerned about the erotic content. Often I am too. Trust me, though, if you don't self insert as the Cap and think of yourself as the good guy...all the clues are there. It's unfortunate that it's taking people by surprise.

Not to mention the fact that the doctor is allowed to spread an aphrodisiac gas throughout the ship without anybody batting an eyelash about it!
Like I said framing is everything.
I'm still not cool with the rape of a prisoner, though.
Even Nyxs femdom route has been pretty sweet and vanilla with the M.C.
Now the M.C.s pissing on passed out women, spouting cringy Cumdump talk and watching his crew rape people. It's like a 14 year olds idea of Maledom.
It's so fucking sad to see a game you're invested in going this direction, cause its been so good up until now.
Big Sad.
 
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Well hey, that's your opinion, and I certainly won't argue with it. Everybody is entitled. This happens to be my favorite update of OO, and many folks on Discord have expressed the same. It's the tough part about being a dev, you can't please everybody.
 
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