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Hi again, everyone. This month, I worked through a bunch of events with a ton writing, renders and some juicy animations. One event that was completed was one of my most ambitious projects. It was a lot of work, but turned out great.
  • 100 new renders
  • 2 new animations
  • lots of writing. so many words.
  • 2 events completed
I started the month working on the big event, and once that was done, I spent days writing. Covered a lot of important events and tense moments, before moving on to a spicy scene.

What's next? The writing is pushed pretty far ahead, so I'm going to be catching up on renders and animations. I'm reaching a point where I will have to choose whether to release a November update or push through and extend the release window for a beefier update that finishes the current events. Let me know your opinion in the comments!
 

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Hi again, everyone. This month, I worked through a bunch of events with a ton writing, renders and some juicy animations. One event that was completed was one of my most ambitious projects. It was a lot of work, but turned out great.
  • 100 new renders
  • 2 new animations
  • lots of writing. so many words.
  • 2 events completed
I started the month working on the big event, and once that was done, I spent days writing. Covered a lot of important events and tense moments, before moving on to a spicy scene.

What's next? The writing is pushed pretty far ahead, so I'm going to be catching up on renders and animations. I'm reaching a point where I will have to choose whether to release a November update or push through and extend the release window for a beefier update that finishes the current events. Let me know your opinion in the comments!
Does this image mean there's more Nyx content coming soon?
 

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Hi again, everyone. This month, I worked through a bunch of events with a ton writing, renders and some juicy animations. One event that was completed was one of my most ambitious projects. It was a lot of work, but turned out great.
  • 100 new renders
  • 2 new animations
  • lots of writing. so many words.
  • 2 events completed
I started the month working on the big event, and once that was done, I spent days writing. Covered a lot of important events and tense moments, before moving on to a spicy scene.

What's next? The writing is pushed pretty far ahead, so I'm going to be catching up on renders and animations. I'm reaching a point where I will have to choose whether to release a November update or push through and extend the release window for a beefier update that finishes the current events. Let me know your opinion in the comments!
Ncsuu thx for the dev log update! Also a bit of concern about the Nyx sub route, especially what happened on the last update. I'm no against on g/g (as long has an option, so anyone can enjoy the game) but Nyx seems like a Dom on that event, even tho I am in the Sub route (like she in charge and just do anything she wants w/ the purple girl, I forgot her name haha).
 

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i dont get how but i finished the current update and using universal renpy modes code viewer ( every new frame counts at 1) im at 24000 / 52000 so basically ive only seen half the frames in the game but i already finished up to current update. there cant be that many side choises in the game to count for half the data. i thought i still had along time to play this then it was like thats the end out of nowhere lol.
 

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Does the Gallery crash for anyone else only on Nyx? Using android had the same issue on the previous update as well. Not sure how to fix
 

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Hi again, everyone. This month, I worked through a bunch of events with a ton writing, renders and some juicy animations. One event that was completed was one of my most ambitious projects. It was a lot of work, but turned out great.
  • 100 new renders
  • 2 new animations
  • lots of writing. so many words.
  • 2 events completed
I started the month working on the big event, and once that was done, I spent days writing. Covered a lot of important events and tense moments, before moving on to a spicy scene.

What's next? The writing is pushed pretty far ahead, so I'm going to be catching up on renders and animations. I'm reaching a point where I will have to choose whether to release a November update or push through and extend the release window for a beefier update that finishes the current events. Let me know your opinion in the comments!
We waited this long so might as well push it and make it big for a new year's release
 

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I think the fundamental issue was that Lym was pretty hardcore loyal to the authorities even after it became clear they were bad guys. Like, she was keeping loyalty for the people hunting you... great trait for an XO.
I agree with you that she could literally get our people killed by not recognizing the danger that poses.
Bit of an essay here so sorry in advance but I got to rant a bit lol

I never got the impression even once that Lym would betray the MC or choose the authorities over him while playing. Its been a while since I played but I remember even Nyx straight up told the MC to be honest with her. Now if the MC was afraid Lym would betray him and if the game is not going to give us agency, then show Lym being suspicious. I dont know if this was an issue with how the information was presented to me but the MC felt like such a massive asshole.

I have no issues when it comes to playing an asshole. But when the game tries to paint the MC being a good guy despite him acting as a complete asshole, the hypocrisy of it all makes it incredibly frustrating for me to play. Especially given that player agency here is taken away - him being an asshole is a choice that is forced upon us rather than giving us the ability to choose how the MC handles the situation.

I have read plenty of stories (mostly in books not porn games) with character arcs like this. MC does something -> he gets bitten in the ass -> suffers the consequence -> becomes a better person for it. And this is satisfying to read but this is not a novel with well defined character arcs. Nor is it a heavily choice driven VN where the player has agency when it comes to the choices the MC is making. It is an adult harem game where choices are forced upon you so the MC is not going to be punished for being a dick if that is being forced on the player. What you will get instead is the heroine getting hurt the MC's actions, MC saying an extremely forgettable sorry and 5 seconds later they get to fucking. There is no character development to speak of. It is just you being forced to play as a dick while the game constantly glorifies the MC's actions.

The way the situation with Lym was handled is literally the only problem I have with this game. Pretty much everything else this game does I liked.
 
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I love me a good wall of text. I just view a few things differently.
I never got the impression even once that Lym would betray the MC or choose the authorities over him while playing. Its been a while since I played but I remember even Nyx straight up told the MC to be honest with her. Now if the MC was afraid Lym would betray him and if the game is not going to give us agency, then show Lym being suspicious. I dont know if this was an issue with how the information was presented to me but the MC felt like such a massive asshole.
It's not necessarily about outright betrayal. But even a simple misjudgement of danger or not considering a certain action, even simple hesitation could get someone/everyone killed. Her bias makes her unfit for the position in my own personal opinion. Could this have been shown better with some possibly suspicious behavior, or maybe a misjudgement (barring her stance towards the authorities itself)? Yeah, maybe. You're not the only one that thought so. It's just to that for me personally this was quite clear. It just shows how some people think alike and others don't I guess.

I have no issues when it comes to playing an asshole. But when the game tries to paint the MC being a good guy despite him acting as a complete asshole, the hypocrisy of it all makes it incredibly frustrating for me to play. Especially given that player agency here is taken away - him being an asshole is a choice that is forced upon us rather than giving us the ability to choose how the MC handles the situation.
My views above kind of lead to my views here. Considering how I think about the demotion/replacement thing as a whole, I don't see this as a dick move at all. I would be disappointed in the resolution if it was "sorry->5sec->fucking" though...
There is potential in challenging Lym's view on their former superiors by slowly unraveling their machinations or discovering something. There could be a more interesting arc of Lym taking the position back by actually becoming the superior choice again. Or not, idk, but currently her as XO would require some explaining.

I also see no hypocrisy, was it not a valid point that Lym was still too loyal to the wrong people? The situation is not really forced on us, as it is a story point, not a decision. Why would we get agency over that? This game never went that strongly into branching stories, the effort for that would be humongous. I get how some people want something like this to be up to them. But it's still a story we are reading, not everything is going as planned or as we want. That's just a part of it. i even dare say it was meant to feel bad for us. A story may do so.

Edit: Now that I think on it. The whole situation feels really bad for us because of how MC was painted so far. That's actually a good way of making this a more impactful and jarring decision for MC and us as readers :unsure:
I can see how this is again something that people might jump to disliking because it goes against their own headcanon but I personally love twists like this, provided the resolution is not something flimsy.
 
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I also see no hypocrisy, was it not a valid point that Lym was still too loyal to the wrong people? The situation is not really forced on us, as it is a story point, not a decision. Why would we get agency over that? This game never went that strongly into branching stories, the effort for that would be humongous. I get how some people want something like this to be up to them. But it's still a story we are reading, not everything is going as planned or as we want. That's just a part of it. i even dare say it was meant to feel bad for us. A story may do so.
You misunderstand - perhaps I did not explain myself very well. What I meant was I dont mind playing an asshole if:

1. I am the one making the asshole choices and the asshole choices - they are not being made for me by the story OR
2. If it is a plot point, game acknowledges that the player is being an asshole and does not try to paint it as a good thing OR
3. When the plot point is close to its conclusion, the MC has to face the consequences of his actions which results in character growth.

What makes this situation frustrating to me is that the game you to watch the MC being an asshole but it does not portray that as a negative thing. The protagonist's actions felt like they were being glorified, him being a total dick is dismissed and when the consequences finally catch up to the MC, well there are no consequences (unless you count more fucking as a consequence lol).

I dont think being forced to play an asshole is a bad thing. And in some cases it can make the story a lot better. I just wish it had been presented in a different way in this game where it was built up to be a character growth arc for the player character as opposed to just the MC being a dick and nothing more.
 
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You misunderstand - perhaps I did not explain myself very well. What I meant was I dont mind playing an asshole if:

1. I am the one making the asshole choices and the asshole choices - they are not being made for me by the story OR
2. If it is a plot point, game acknowledges that the player is being an asshole and does not try to paint it as a good thing OR
3. When the plot point is close to its conclusion, the MC has to face the consequences of his actions which results in character growth.

What makes this situation frustrating to me is that the game you to watch the MC being an asshole but it does not portray that as a negative thing. The protagonist's actions felt like they were being glorified, him being a total dick is dismissed and when the consequences finally catch up to the MC, well there are no consequences (unless you count more fucking as a consequence lol).

I dont think being forced to play an asshole is a bad thing. And in some cases it can make the story a lot better. I just wish it had been presented in a different way in this game where it was built up to be a character growth arc for the player character as opposed to just the MC being a dick and nothing more.
You are kind of pushing your opinion of the mc being an asshole because of Lim as a fact, if it was true the rest of the crew would have had vastly different reactions. Sure, they did feel guilty for not supporting her, but they agreed that Nyx was a better fit for the position. I do think btw that the mc is being a total dick/asshole by going for a harem without telling the girls, just not the Lim situation because as a captain he couldn't really play around trying to not hurt her feelings when she was in the wrong.
 

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Hi again, everyone. This month, I worked through a bunch of events with a ton writing, renders and some juicy animations. One event that was completed was one of my most ambitious projects. It was a lot of work, but turned out great.
  • 100 new renders
  • 2 new animations
  • lots of writing. so many words.
  • 2 events completed
I started the month working on the big event, and once that was done, I spent days writing. Covered a lot of important events and tense moments, before moving on to a spicy scene.

What's next? The writing is pushed pretty far ahead, so I'm going to be catching up on renders and animations. I'm reaching a point where I will have to choose whether to release a November update or push through and extend the release window for a beefier update that finishes the current events. Let me know your opinion in the comments!
November is NNN, we can wait.
 

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You are kind of pushing your opinion of the mc being an asshole because of Lim as a fact, if it was true the rest of the crew would have had vastly different reactions. Sure, they did feel guilty for not supporting her, but they agreed that Nyx was a better fit for the position. I do think btw that the mc is being a total dick/asshole by going for a harem without telling the girls, just not the Lim situation because as a captain he couldn't really play around trying to not hurt her feelings when she was in the wrong.
I agree that Nyx was a better opinion. I just think the way the MC handled the situation made him be an asshole. It felt like drama just for the sake of it. My problem is not with her being replaced but with the constant distrust the MC displayed which I did not think was warranted.

Let's say that the MC was honest with Lym from the very beginning. Would that have been a problem? to me the answer is an easy no. The problem is that Lym gave me the player no reason to distrust her. So when you see the MC constantly lie and betray her trust, and the game makes it out to be no big deal it just feels... irrational I guess. If I am stuck playing a character who I think makes asshole choices but is not written to be a bad guy, I find it frustrating. The game did not do a good job of allowing me to empathize with the MCs actions. If Lym had given me the player and not just the MC reason to distrust her, I would have felt very differently about the whole situation. But based on how it was presented, I genuinely did not enjoy playing the game in those scenes.

I would have liked it a lot more if we had skipped all the paranoia and lies and the MC promoted Nyx just because she was the more competent person. Sure Lym would be hurt there as well but I wouldnt think the MC was being a jerk for doing that. That would be a rational decision and one I can understand.

> the rest of the crew would have had vastly different reactions

I dont see how this addresses my issues. We are discussing the writing of the game and those reactions are part of the problem that I have. The opinion of you and others in the forum that disagree with me is far more relevant to this discussion. I have read the dialogue in the game already and I did not like it. Reading the dialogue again is not going to change that opinion. However having this discussion with other players that interpreted the MC's actions differently from me make me rethink my initial opinion which is why I am having this conversation.

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But anyway despite my long essays this is no big deal. Its just a game after all and I liked everything else that the game did. This was basically the only thing about the game I did not like.
 
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Edit: Now that I think on it. The whole situation feels really bad for us because of how MC was painted so far. That's actually a good way of making this a more impactful and jarring decision for MC and us as readers :unsure:
I can see how this is again something that people might jump to disliking because it goes against their own headcanon but I personally love twists like this, provided the resolution is not something flimsy.
What makes this situation frustrating to me is that the game you to watch the MC being an asshole but it does not portray that as a negative thing. The protagonist's actions felt like they were being glorified, him being a total dick is dismissed and when the consequences finally catch up to the MC, well there are no consequences (unless you count more fucking as a consequence lol).

I dont think being forced to play an asshole is a bad thing. And in some cases it can make the story a lot better. I just wish it had been presented in a different way in this game where it was built up to be a character growth arc for the player character as opposed to just the MC being a dick and nothing more.
You are kind of pushing your opinion of the mc being an asshole because of Lim as a fact, if it was true the rest of the crew would have had vastly different reactions.
I just think the way the MC handled the situation made him be an asshole. It felt like drama just for the sake of it. My problem is not with her being replaced but with the constant distrust the MC displayed which I did not think was warranted.

Everyone has a point and is right to a certain degree. I wouldn't blend out the circumstance of nearly all the characters being pretty young adults and would also justify MC's behaviour as not fully mature in that aspect. I always try to remind myself that not long ago he was suddenly declared captain and what was meant to be a simple exploration mission turns out to be a 'save the galaxy' voyage.

You don't simply become a good captain by attending the academy but rather grow into the role. It's not like MC is taking that decision lightly either. He wouldn't engage in some of the later dialogues with lym in order to assuade and rebuild trust between them otherwise. Nyx does her fair share of trying to mend things as well by pushing the MC to reconnect on one hand and baiting Lym into the rivalry on the other hand. (The last bit is based on my assumption that Nyx is not a sociopath)

Lastly, Nyx being older (iirc) can capitalise on those dynamics better than MC and the rest of the crew. I imagine if the doctor was present she would have either reprimanded that decision in how it was made or taken Lym aside and maybe give her a more mature/optimistic perspective.

Edit: I could even see the doc antagonising Nyx in some areas in order to have a more harmonious crew.
 
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Damn got hooked on this game, Space is my jam and it was quite well made.
I noticed a little gap in the last update tho', more bug in sandbox mode than before and some part of the story that is....clearly rushed ?

Like there is no path to go to the botany wings or the lizard mommy room so you have to click their icon to go to it, a shame.

Speaking of Lizard mommy, she is on the ship beside not calling for in the urgency ? I don't mind but that's a stretch. The whole Lym situation is weird. Lym saw a tone of foreshadowing from the Military doing shady stuff, that + her sister situation should more than ring a bell but she get overly defensive of it when the MC come back a freakin bloody hole MADE by the fleet admiral + Nyx being a mess ? Having doubt should be the MINIMUM, nah ?

And i feel like stuff after didn't connect as well as event did before, some thing feel rushed. Couldn't you just talk with her, man ? And couldn't she ask ? The whole situation is messed up but oh well.

At least we got a big bro in the ship now !
 
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