VN Ren'Py Origin Story [v0.5.0] [JDOR]

[Jericho85]

Kinda confused about the current conversation so mastubation means not a virgin. Than if that's the case I haven't been a virgin since 9. So confused.

Next they're going to demand a "rape" tag for Origin Story because if Evelyn masturbated with a dildo or even broke her hymen with her fingers as a minor (which apparently counts as penetrative sex instead of masturbation according to some geniuses) then that means she may have committed statutory rape against herself. </sarcasm>

 

[HornyyPussy]

Avaron1974

What's your take on this masturbation/still virgin debate?

I thought you'd have some nice insights to share on the subject

 

[natehale1971]

Avaron1974

What's your take on this masturbation/still virgin debate?

I thought you'd have some nice insights to share on the subject

Yes please, let's get yet another opinion to keep beating a dead horse so that us evil meanie-heads who disagree can look bad... let's see some more intolerance & name calling get thrown around. After all, your thin-skinned God-Emperor Jericho85 needs to have his opinion reinforced over and over again. It's getting obvious that never can an opinion that's not approved can be posted here or anywhere else.

 

[natehale1971]

Next they're going to demand a "rape" tag for Origin Story because if Evelyn masturbated with a dildo or even broke her hymen with her fingers as a minor (which apparently counts as penetrative sex instead of masturbation according to some geniuses) then that means she may have committed statutory rape against herself. </sarcasm>

yes of course, your intolerance & thin-skin is so on display that someone disagrees with you... So yes, let's close down comments for everyone except for Jericho85 to be the only one allowed to post since his opinion is the only one that matters on anything & everything.

 

[Snugglepuff]

Yes please, let's get yet another opinion to keep beating a dead horse so that us evil meanie-heads who disagree can look bad... let's see some more intolerance & name calling get thrown around. After all, your thin-skinned God-Emperor Jericho85 needs to have his opinion reinforced over and over again. It's getting obvious that never can an opinion that's not approved can be posted here or anywhere else.

yes of course, your intolerance & thin-skin is so on display that someone disagrees with you... So yes, let's close down comments for everyone except for Jericho85 to be the only one allowed to post since his opinion is the only one that matters on anything & everything.

Stop spamming the thread.
Go and chill out for a while, calm down and toss out the victim complex too.

 

[HornyyPussy]

Yes please, let's get yet another opinion to keep beating a dead horse so that us evil meanie-heads who disagree can look bad... let's see some more intolerance & name calling get thrown around. After all, your thin-skinned God-Emperor Jericho85 needs to have his opinion reinforced over and over again. It's getting obvious that never can an opinion that's not approved can be posted here or anywhere else.

Yes, of course it's everybody else that's are thin skinned.

Since Ava is a woman and not exactly afraid to say what's what I thought it would be nice to hear it from the horses queens mouth.

 

[natehale1971]

Stop spamming the thread.
Go and chill out for a while, calm down and toss out the victim complex too.

victim complex? Ha. funny. If someone says something you don't like you say that. That's cool. Yet calling in someone else to comment is not a problem and not beating a dead horse. And it's seen as 'spamming' a thread to call out intolerance for someone's opinion. Good to know. Yeah, let's close down comments here and just let Jericho85 & company post the approved opinions on this subject. Since defending someone's opinion just is not allowed. I would say, "have fun with your echo chamber." but last i knew this was a place we all get to state our opinions when we give constructive criticism about the AVN we're suppose to be reading & hopefully enjoying. But that's not allowed here it seems.

So, thanks for letting me know that.

 

[natehale1971]

Yes, of course it's everybody else that's are thin skinned.

Since Ava is a woman and not exactly afraid to say what's what I thought it would be nice to hear it from the horses queens mouth.

Let's see... you calling in someone to defend your opinion isn't thin-skinned, but me calling out bad behaviour & intolerance for someone else's opinion that i saw without being called into the discussion is thin-skinned & just so very wrong. I posted a simple statement that i've heard over the past fifty years that was made by more women than i had ever heard it from men. I get attacked & insulted for things I NEVER said. Someone said that they got pulled out of the narrative because of something. That's a VALID statement & opinion because IT HAPPENED TO THEM.

You don't like that, that's fine... but don't lie about what they are saying or put words in their mouths for it. Tolerance is a two-way street, but when someone doesn't tolerate the existence of an opinion they don't agree with is not okay. Especially when you have to resort to lying about what they have said or what they even think. I'm not belittling someone for their opinions, i'm calling out their personal insults & intolerance for differing opinions.

So call in your reinforcements & prove your intolerance & thin-skinned natures. I really don't care.

I am enjoying an AVN, even with this hiccup. Though i do hope that the dev sees that some people are having trouble with that ONE SCENE and fix it in future updates. Because if there are some people who are being pulled out of the narrative of the story, thus their enjoyment of their works are being negatively affected. This means less people who would spend money to buy their products in the future. Constructive Criticism is a good thing, it makes products better for future consumers.

But hey, you be you. I'm not attacking the opposing opinion here... i want all opinions to be heard. Because that's the only way we learn new things & can make progress in making things better.

 

[HornyyPussy]

Let's see... you calling in someone to defend your opinion isn't thin-skinned, but me calling out bad behaviour & intolerance for someone else's opinion that i saw without being called into the discussion is thin-skinned & just so very wrong. I posted a simple statement that i've heard over the past fifty years that was made by more women than i had ever heard it from men. I get attacked & insulted for things I NEVER said. Someone said that they got pulled out of the narrative because of something. That's a VALID statement & opinion because IT HAPPENED TO THEM.

You don't like that, that's fine... but don't lie about what they are saying or put words in their mouths for it. Tolerance is a two-way street, but when someone doesn't tolerate the existence of an opinion they don't agree with is not okay. Especially when you have to resort to lying about what they have said or what they even think. I'm not belittling someone for their opinions, i'm calling out their personal insults & intolerance for differing opinions.

So call in your reinforcements & prove your intolerance & thin-skinned natures. I really don't care.

I am enjoying an AVN, even with this hiccup. Though i do hope that the dev sees that some people are having trouble with that ONE SCENE and fix it in future updates. Because if there are some people who are being pulled out of the narrative of the story, thus their enjoyment of their works are being negatively affected. This means less people who would spend money to buy their products in the future. Constructive Criticism is a good thing, it makes products better for future consumers.

But hey, you be you. I'm not attacking the opposing opinion here... i want all opinions to be heard. Because that's the only way we learn new things & can make progress in making things better.

Holy delusions Batman, this Joker wannabe goes to.....The List™

 

[natehale1971]

Holy delusions Batman, this Joker wanna be goes to.....The List™

You keep being you, since you just keep proving my point. So have fun with your hate & loathing. I could really care less, i still have a real life & self-respect. And yet an opinion that others also share that's still a very valid one, even if you don't like it.

 

[Avaron1974]

Avaron1974

What's your take on this masturbation/still virgin debate?

I thought you'd have some nice insights to share on the subject

If I may speak bluntly for a second.

I do believe that anyone who thinks masturbation equals sex and loses ones virginity is clearly an idiot.

I think it's safe to say that most of us experimented with masturbation as soon as we realised what our nether regions could do. With that said, these muppets aim to tell us that kids of all ages lost their virginity to their right/left hand or a finger flick?

I repeat, idiots.

 

[HornyyPussy]

If I may speak bluntly for a second.

I do believe that anyone who thinks masturbation equals sex and loses ones virginity is clearly an idiot.

I think it's safe to say that most of us experimented with masturbation as soon as we realised what our nether regions could do. With that said, these muppets aim to tell us that kids of all ages lost their virginity to their right/left hand or a finger flick?

I repeat, idiots.

Thank you for that clear and concise answer! You are indeed wise!!

 

[Snugglepuff]

victim complex? Ha. funny. If someone says something you don't like you say that.

No, you acting like you're being specifically targetted by a multitude of people, no matter how hyperbolic you may or may not have been/are being, is why I say that.

Instead of addressing multiple posts through multi-quotes, you're making individual posts in quick succession - Spamming posts.
Each one, you've been making a mountain out of a mole hill, because you're projecting so hard about people being thin-skinned over people not sharing their opinion, whilst cry-bullying.

So again, I strongly recommend you go and chill out and try not to come back until you're able to approach things in a more level-headed manner.

 

[natehale1971]

No, you acting like you're being specifically targetted by a multitude of people, no matter how hyperbolic you may or may not have been/are being, is why I say that.

Instead of addressing multiple posts through multi-quotes, you're making individual posts in quick succession - Spamming posts.
Each one, you've been making a mountain out of a mole hill, because you're projecting so hard about people being thin-skinned over people not sharing their opinion, whilst cry-bullying.

So again, I strongly recommend you go and chill out and try not to come back until you're able to approach things in a more level-headed manner.

Yeah. right. calling out someone who keeps putting words in your mouth that you never said is acting as a cry-bully, then when someone calls in others to fight their battles with using that same tactic of saying that you've stated something that you never said... yeah, that's not an act of cry-bullying. So go on and keep proving me right. you, your little buddies and your blatant hypocrisy means you're now ignored.

 

[natehale1971]

If I may speak bluntly for a second.

I do believe that anyone who thinks masturbation equals sex and loses ones virginity is clearly an idiot.

I think it's safe to say that most of us experimented with masturbation as soon as we realised what our nether regions could do. With that said, these muppets aim to tell us that kids of all ages lost their virginity to their right/left hand or a finger flick?

I repeat, idiots.

This discussion came from me quoting the statement that Penetration is not Masterbation that i have heard repeatedly for over fifty years from many women. No one said that means that someone is not a virgin if they broke their hymen through use of dildos or fingers. So thanks for beating an already dead horse that came from putting words in someone's mouth that they never said just because they can't handle the fact that someone had a different opinion than them. So please have a nice day for joining in on this commentary that you'd never have heard of if not called in to pile on someone defending another's opinion that they got pulled out of the narrative thanks to repeated statements that had been made in what was suppose to be a tender moment between two characters loosing their virginity with each other.

 

[Snugglepuff]

Yeah. right. calling out someone who keeps putting words in your mouth that you never said is acting as a cry-bully, then when someone calls in others to fight their battles with using that same tactic of saying that you've stated something that you never said...

Post a screenshot of someone "putting words in your mouth", of people gaslighting you. For that past two pages, literally nobody has written that you've said something you haven't.
Nobody has called anyone in to contest what you haven't said about correlation between penetrative masturbation breaking the hymen and loss of virginity.

that's not an act of cry-bullying. So go on and keep proving me right. you, your little buddies and your blatant hypocrisy means you're now ignored.

This, this right here is you still playing victim.
You're the one who's gone off half-cock at people who've supposedly been ganging up on you, which nobody has. The first one you replied to doing so, was Jericho85's post which I've screenshot and put in the spoiler box below.

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There's your double-post responding to two of his posts, the second of which is where you start going off the rails.

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Where is he referring to you?
Remember, you hadn't said anything about anyone losing their virginity via masturbation, so it's clearly not about you.
Seeing as he saw and responded to your posts after he'd written that, it's not you who was on ignore. Again, that can't be you he's talking about.

Are you a purity obsessed incel?
That's the only part that can even be construed as an insult about anyone, so why would you think he was referring to you at all?
The answer is, like above, he's not talking about or referring to you. Get over yourself.

This discussion came from me quoting the statement that Penetration is not Masterbation that i have heard repeatedly for over fifty years from many women.

You sure about that?



That looks more like you were making a statement, that you were stating something as fact.

Given how verbose you've been in literally everything else you've written since then, especially at painting yourself as the victim in all this, you are clearly capable of having written something that would have been infinitely clearer that it was an old opinion that you'd heard over time, and shared yourself.
Instead, you opted to attack others who had not addressed you or referred to you specifically, then "valiantly" come across as the victim somehow.

No one said that means that someone is not a virgin if they broke their hymen through use of dildos or fingers.

Oh really?

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Oh and here too.

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They're both after your initial "offering" above in the screenshot, and before you decided that somebody not replying to you or mentioning you meant they were addressing you.
Before you try it, not seeing them is in no way an excuse to act the way you have been.

So thanks for beating an already dead horse that came from putting words in someone's mouth that they never said just because they can't handle the fact that someone had a different opinion than them.

You committed a heinous act of necromancy first, bringing that horse back to be beaten, then followed up with deciding that something not directed at you as a person was an attack on you...

So please have a nice day for joining in on this commentary that you'd never have heard of if not called in to pile on someone defending another's opinion that they got pulled out of the narrative thanks to repeated statements that had been made in what was suppose to be a tender moment between two characters loosing their virginity with each other.

She was asked her opinion on something, in a thread she's subscribed to for a game that she's interested in, and she gave it.

If it's not the same as yours, given how you've been wailing and moaning about "being attacked" for having a different opinion, then you shouldn't be such a raging hypocrite.

Oh, and drop the faux victimhood. Nobody's buying it.

 

[Elhemeer]

Post a screenshot of someone "putting words in your mouth", of people gaslighting you. For that past two pages, literally nobody has written that you've said something you haven't.
Nobody has called anyone in to contest what you haven't said about correlation between penetrative masturbation breaking the hymen and loss of virginity.



This, this right here is you still playing victim.
You're the one who's gone off half-cock at people who've supposedly been ganging up on you, which nobody has. The first one you replied to doing so, was Jericho85's post which I've screenshot and put in the spoiler box below.

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There's your double-post responding to two of his posts, the second of which is where you start going off the rails.

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Where is he referring to you?
Remember, you hadn't said anything about anyone losing their virginity via masturbation, so it's clearly not about you.
Seeing as he saw and responded to your posts after he'd written that, it's not you who was on ignore. Again, that can't be you he's talking about.

Are you a purity obsessed incel?
That's the only part that can even be construed as an insult about anyone, so why would you think he was referring to you at all?
The answer is, like above, he's not talking about or referring to you. Get over yourself.



You sure about that?

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That looks more like you were making a statement, that you were stating something as fact.

Given how verbose you've been in literally everything else you've written since then, especially at painting yourself as the victim in all this, you are clearly capable of having written something that would have been infinitely clearer that it was an old opinion that you'd heard over time, and shared yourself.
Instead, you opted to attack others who had not addressed you or referred to you specifically, then "valiantly" come across as the victim somehow.



Oh really?

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Oh and here too.

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They're both after your initial "offering" above in the screenshot, and before you decided that somebody not replying to you or mentioning you meant they were addressing you.
Before you try it, not seeing them is in no way an excuse to act the way you have been.



You committed a heinous act of necromancy first, bringing that horse back to be beaten, then followed up with deciding that something not directed at you as a person was an attack on you...



She was asked her opinion on something, in a thread she's subscribed to for a game that she's interested in, and she gave it.

If it's not the same as yours, given how you've been wailing and moaning about "being attacked" for having a different opinion, then you shouldn't be such a raging hypocrite.

Oh, and drop the faux victimhood. Nobody's buying it.

Paying it forward ...

 

[HornyyPussy]

Post a screenshot of someone "putting words in your mouth", of people gaslighting you. For that past two pages, literally nobody has written that you've said something you haven't.
Nobody has called anyone in to contest what you haven't said about correlation between penetrative masturbation breaking the hymen and loss of virginity.



This, this right here is you still playing victim.
You're the one who's gone off half-cock at people who've supposedly been ganging up on you, which nobody has. The first one you replied to doing so, was Jericho85's post which I've screenshot and put in the spoiler box below.

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There's your double-post responding to two of his posts, the second of which is where you start going off the rails.

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Where is he referring to you?
Remember, you hadn't said anything about anyone losing their virginity via masturbation, so it's clearly not about you.
Seeing as he saw and responded to your posts after he'd written that, it's not you who was on ignore. Again, that can't be you he's talking about.

Are you a purity obsessed incel?
That's the only part that can even be construed as an insult about anyone, so why would you think he was referring to you at all?
The answer is, like above, he's not talking about or referring to you. Get over yourself.



You sure about that?

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That looks more like you were making a statement, that you were stating something as fact.

Given how verbose you've been in literally everything else you've written since then, especially at painting yourself as the victim in all this, you are clearly capable of having written something that would have been infinitely clearer that it was an old opinion that you'd heard over time, and shared yourself.
Instead, you opted to attack others who had not addressed you or referred to you specifically, then "valiantly" come across as the victim somehow.



Oh really?

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Oh and here too.

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They're both after your initial "offering" above in the screenshot, and before you decided that somebody not replying to you or mentioning you meant they were addressing you.
Before you try it, not seeing them is in no way an excuse to act the way you have been.



You committed a heinous act of necromancy first, bringing that horse back to be beaten, then followed up with deciding that something not directed at you as a person was an attack on you...



She was asked her opinion on something, in a thread she's subscribed to for a game that she's interested in, and she gave it.

If it's not the same as yours, given how you've been wailing and moaning about "being attacked" for having a different opinion, then you shouldn't be such a raging hypocrite.

Oh, and drop the faux victimhood. Nobody's buying it.

Damn man! Can we make this post in to a template for dealing with dingbats?

 

[QaliberDK]

If I may speak bluntly for a second.

I do believe that anyone who thinks masturbation equals sex and loses ones virginity is clearly an idiot.

I think it's safe to say that most of us experimented with masturbation as soon as we realised what our nether regions could do. With that said, these muppets aim to tell us that kids of all ages lost their virginity to their right/left hand or a finger flick?

I repeat, idiots.

Virginity is an odd concept, though. I'm bored, so i looked it up.


noun

1. the state of never having had sexual intercourse.


That's the Oxford Dictionary definition. Their definition of intercourse is as follows :

noun

1. sexual contact between individuals involving penetration, especially the insertion of a man's erect penis into a woman's vagina, typically culminating in orgasm and the ejaculation of semen.

I noted the "especially the insertion of a man's erect penis", implying that penetration with a penis isn't the only way but the most typical way. But that only really covers sex in regards to heterosexual intercourse. I think most people would define
losing their virginity as penile penetration of the vagina but since the definition of virginity is as stated below, there seems to be no clear definition, really. I mean, if two gay guys have anal sex, i'd definitely count that as losing your virginity. As for lesbians and virginity, i really have no idea.


According to the National Institutes of Health :

'Virginity' has no medical or scientific definition. It is a social, cultural and religious construct, which refers to the absence of former engagement in sexual intercourse.

Sorry for the rant reply, btw

To sum it up, what i've learned is that virginity is a term with no clear and concise definition. The hymen has no real relation to virginity, as virginity is a construct and the hymen is leftover tissue with no actual purpose, that can even rip or tear in non-sexual situations. The hymenal opening widens with time, it doesn't always rip or tear during penetration and a small percentage of unlucky individuals are born with imperforate hymens (completely obstructed vaginal canal).
All in all, a short but interesting research.

And i completely agree. Masturbation, with or without toys shaped like male and female genitalia, does not count as losing your virginity. People who believe that, are either dummies or very desperate to lose it.
That's kinda like hitting a sandbag and counting it as a boxing match.

 

[Jericho85]

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