AlexMpog

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I returned to this thread and I can see this whole Parker/Evelyn (mostly Parker) debate goes on for a 3rd day already (even after Mods nuked few pages).
I stayed out it from the very 1st update (not a single complaint), but now I see that some people here started twisting facts (both sides)...

So, I want also to share how I see this Parker&Evelyn situations.

Also I had a rough night, so I might be a bit gross, try not to take personally, thank you.

1) I will be quick with Evelyn, this topic was discussed sooo many times.
Even before all these discussions I never considered Evelyn using her powers as cheating, common.
But for those who still are struggling - here is another Jericho85's post that might help you to understand how her powers work.

And for those who still thinks that she is cheating on you or those who were upset that she masturbated before having sex with MC (yeah, this particular complaint still doesn't let me go, sorry) - go outside and touch the grass.

Personally I think Evelyn is a great GF, loving and caring. And she is an ideal GF for a harem game, well, you know, all this cuck quinn stuff.

2) Case with Parker is a bit complicated.
I read both sides (also I want to clarify - I don't consider "oh no - it's a cuck content" comments as a side, this is bulshit).

First of all, I noticed that some players here started twisting this restaurant scene into their favour, using arguments like "misogyny", "what if it was a man..." and jada jada.
Some dude even compared Parker's quicky/munching with taking a pee)))
Man, honestly I think you are just having fun with Parker haters, buuut, if you are really serious about it... hmm... well, whatever you are taking - I want it:KEK:

Now seriously. I don't have children yet, but I have a nephew and a niece, also two younger sisters. I guess, I was never the best uncle or a brother. But despite everything - I can can tell you what I would never do. I wouldn't take my sister or nephew or niece to the restaurant on their birthday and ditch them for a quicky in a bath. Not happening sir, despite how horny I am.
We all have been horny, we all have been there, fuck, there were some situations where I thought I am gonna fuck a fucking tree))))) And you know what? - I restrained myself. Why? - Because I am not an animal, I can control my urges and actions.

Next example might be a bit gross, but I ll try to make it funny at least.

So, I think everybody who has ever had a dog is familiar with this situation:

You're having a great day, the sun is shining, birds are singing, and then... suddenly, your dog starts fucking your leg.
"Oh noooooo, why is it happening?" - you think. Well, it's simple, the dog is horny and wants to fuck smth, he/she can't control it, it's an instinct. Soo, why not your leg?)))
And as a good owner (as I hope you are) - you don't hit her or scold her badly, you just push the dog away with smth like "bad dog, stop it"))) You got used to it, so no hards feelings.

Anyways, this is how I see restaurant scene, Parker sees the opportunity and just goes for it.
The only difference is that she is not a dog, if she really wanted to - she could restrain herself, but for whatever reason she didn't, maybe she didn't care enough, or maybe she thought: "MC's got used to it, he will be fine..."

BTW, yeah, somebody mentioned that MC is used to it and is fine with it, hmmm, ok, and? Does it make Parker a nicer person? In my opinion - no. Does it make this whole situation better - no.
This only means that this is not the first time she does this stuff, maybe she did it on his previous birthday as well, maybe she uses MC's birthdays for finding new young/juicy lovers:p
Nevertheless, all this gestalt makes Parker look as a not very nice person in my eyes. But hey, that's only me and my "misogyny":D

But... do I hate her? - nope. We all have flaws, we are not saints, sooo, as a character I don't hate Parker nor I like her - I tolerate her. As of right now - I am not into her romantically, maybe she will grow on me during the game, maybe she won't.
The truth is that it's totally normal - not liking some LIs in a game, I can't remember any single game where I was into all the LIs, there were always somebody I didn't like because of the look, or her personality in general, or her introduction, actually that's why I am not a great fan of harems (1 of the reasons), especially kinetic ones where all LIs are forced on you.
There were a few games where LIs I didn't like were forced on me - I just dropped those games without a single complaint.

So, where I am going with this?
For those who keeps complaining about her - if you don't like Parker - ok, fine, just DO NOT TAKE HER PATH when ooportunity arrives, but if even her very existence in a game as a character bothers you that much - then don't play the game.
And for those people who keep playing the game anyways and keep complaining about it over and over again after every fucking update - I can suggest you the same as with Evelyn - go outside and touch some grass. It gets really annoying.

Phew, well, that's all. Have a good day all;)
 
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PPeters98

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So, where I am going with this?
For those who keeps complaining about her - if you don't like Parker - ok, fine, just DO NOT TAKE HER PATH when ooportunity arrives, but if even her very existence in a game as a character bothers you that much - then don't play the game.
And for those people who keep playing the game anyways and keep complaining about it over and over again after every fucking update - I can suggest you the same as with Evelyn - go outside and touch some grass. It gets really annoying.

Phew, well, that's all. Have a good day all;)
Exactly, so many other games, go complain somewhere else, if you don't like this game. I think we got the option to take her path or not, that should be enough.

Same if some girl starts to grow a penis, if it's an optional thing, nobody can and should complain.

I personally don't see the problem with Parker, but then, if there is enough build up, to make them a real person, I think it's fine. And I think this game is delivering that, enough background, to not make every girl just a fuck, without knowing their names or backgrounds...
 

SerHawkes

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I'm more into wanting to lay pipe in our stepish sis of sort than the mom really. Mainly because mommy dearest is certainly sus as hell. Really don't care about her being a literal man eater.
 
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I returned to this thread and Шcan see this whole Parker/Evelyn (mostly Parker) debate goes on for a 3rd day already (even after Mods nuked few pages).
I stayed out it from the very 1st update (not a single complaint), but now I see that some people here started twisting facts (both sides)...

So, I want also to share how I see this Parker&Evelyn situations.

Also I had a rough night, so I might be a bit gross, try not to take personally, thank you.

1) I will be quick with Evelyn, this topic was discussed sooo many times.
Even before all these discussions I never considered Evelyn using her powers as cheating, common.
But for those who still are struggling - here is another Jericho85's post that might help you to understand how her powers work.

And for those who still thinks that she is cheating on you or those who were upset that she masturbated before having sex with MC (yeah, this particular complaint still doesn't let me go, sorry) - go outside and touch the grass.

Personally I think Evelyn is a great GF, loving and caring. And she is an ideal GF for a harem game, well, you know, all this cuck quinn stuff.

2) Case with Parker is a bit complicated.
I read both sides (also I want to clarify - I don't consider "oh no - it's a cuck content" comments as a side, this is bulshit).

First of all, I noticed that some players here started twisting this restaurant scene into their favour, using arguments like "misogyny", "what if it was a man..." and jada jada.
Some dude even compared Parker's quicky/munching with taking a pee)))
Man, honestly I think you are just having fun with Parker haters, buuut, if you are really serious about it... hmm... well, whatever you are taking - I want it:KEK:

Now seriously. I don't have children yet, but I have a nephew and a niece, also two younger sisters. I guess, I was never the best uncle or a brother. But despite everything - I can can tell you what I would never do. I wouldn't take my sister or nephew or niece to the restaurant on their birthday and ditch them for a quicky in a bath. Not happening sir, despite how horny I am.
We all have been horny, we all have been there, fuck, there were some situations where I thought I am gonna fuck a fucking tree))))) And you know what? - I restrained myself. Why? - Because I am not an animal, I can control my urges and actions.

Next example might be a bit gross, but I ll try to make it funny at least.

So, I think everybody who has ever had a dog is familiar with this situation:

You're having a great day, the sun is shining, birds are singing, and then... suddenly, your dog starts fucking your leg.
"Oh noooooo, why is it happening?" - you think. Well, it's simple, the dog is horny and wants to fuck smth, he/she can't control it, it's an instinct. Soo, why not your leg?)))
And as a good owner (as I hope you are) - you don't hit her or scold her badly, you just push the dog away with smth like "bad dog, stop it"))) You got used to it, so no hards feelings.

Anyways, this is how I see restaurant scene, Parker sees the opportunity and just goes for it.
The only difference is that she is not a dog, if she really wanted to - she could restrain herself, but for whatever reason she didn't, maybe she didn't care enough, or maybe she thought: "MC's got used to it, he will be fine..."

BTW, yeah, somebody mentioned that MC is used to it and is fine with it, hmmm, ok, and? Does it make Parker a nicer person? In my opinion - no. Does it make this whole situation better - no.
This only means that this is not the first time she does this stuff, maybe she did it on his previous birthday as well, maybe she uses MC's birthdays for finding new young/juicy lovers:p
Nevertheless, all this gestalt makes Parker look as a not very nice person in my eyes. But hey, that's only me and my "misogyny":D

But... do I hate her? - nope. We all have flaws, we are not saints, sooo, as a character I don't hate Parker nor I like her - I tolerate her. As of right now - I am not into her romantically, maybe she will grow on me during the game, maybe she won't.
The truth is that it's totally normal - not liking some LIs in a game, I can't remember any single game where I was into all the LIs, there were always somebody I didn't like because of the look, or her personality in general, or her introduction, actually that's why I am not a great fan of harems, especially kinetic ones where all LIs are forced on you.
There were a few games where LIs I didn't like were forced on me - I just dropped those games without a single complaint.

So, where I am going with this?
For those who keeps complaining about her - if you don't like Parker - ok, fine, just DO NOT TAKE HER PATH when ooportunity arrives, but if even her very existence in a game as a character bothers you that much - then don't play the game.
And for those people who keep playing the game anyways and keep complaining about it over and over again after every fucking update - I can suggest you the same as with Evelyn - go outside and touch some grass. It gets really annoying., or that they are a product of Public schooling

Phew, well, that's all. Have a good day all;)
Hey it's not my fault that some of there individuals have a myopic look on life, or that they are a product of Public Education.
 

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AlterdStates7

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Look at that! Another entirely reasonable and logical NTR debate I'm not gonna read. Aaaanyway does anyone know if there is gonna be a bugfix, or is this release good to go?
 

Havik79

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Oh come on after that ending of course we will be able to help Amber, would be pointless to have written what happened and then have her be sent off to France.
 

Havik79

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Whatever, the point was clearly given how it was written we will be able to help her, even more so with what happened when she kissed us.
 

Rehwyn

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Whatever, the point was clearly given how it was written we will be able to help her, even more so with what happened when she kissed us.
Hypothesis: Amber's invisibility power only partially manifested or something and she needs to experience another positive emotionally-charged event (*cough*sex*cough*) for them to fully awaken and start learning control.
 
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Agent_Sloth

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Whatever, the point was clearly given how it was written we will be able to help her, even more so with what happened when she kissed us.
Actually given that Amber is of personal interest to the MC, it's a fairly easy plot point to have the "good guys" want to send her to Osaka, and the "bad guys" to offer us an alternative to help her, since the game has been heavily hinting at the lines of good and evil are really blurry, and this would lead us down the villain route that is hinted it.
 

e6mill

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Hypothesis: Amber's invisibility power only partially manifested or something and she needs to experience another positive emotionally-charged event (*cough*sex*cough*) for them to fully awaken and start learning control.
This would explain why she was partly visible when kissing the MC.
 

Tyrranus

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Hypothesis: Amber's invisibility power only partially manifested or something and she needs to experience another positive emotionally-charged event (*cough*sex*cough*) for them to fully awaken and start learning control.
I was thinking in a less extreme but similar direction, since she got her power she's been in an emotional spiral, what if she just needs to balance out or remember joy, like the kiss.
 

satirious

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This would explain why she was partly visible when kissing the MC.
Alternate possibility is that Amber's invisibility is not her manifested ability. Remember the briefing at sisterhood HQ about Tigerstripe and known associates.

Invisinosky-
Ability:Turning others invisible permanently. Known victims were sixteen teenage girls.

A rather strange bread crumb to include in that briefing if it didn't or wasn't going to apply to anyone in the story. We'll probably know for sure once Georgia has a chance to look at Amber. The brief flicker could be her gaining more control because of emotional high of that moment or something about her or him causing Invisinovsky's to momentarily be affected.

Just a hunch
 

Tyrranus

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Alternate possibility is that Amber's invisibility is not her manifested ability. Remember the briefing at sisterhood HQ about Tigerstripe and known associates.

Invisinosky-
Ability:Turning others invisible permanently. Known victims were sixteen teenage girls.

A rather strange bread crumb to include in that briefing if it didn't or wasn't going to apply to anyone in the story. We'll probably know for sure once Georgia has a chance to look at Amber. The brief flicker could be her gaining more control because of emotional high of that moment or something about her or him causing Invisinovsky's to momentarily be affected.

Just a hunch
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Jericho85

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Hypothesis: Amber's invisibility power only partially manifested or something and she needs to experience another positive emotionally-charged event (*cough*sex*cough*) for them to fully awaken and start learning control.
I think that's exactly how it's going to go down. I think her severe depression is a mental block. The moment she gets over that, then thats when she'll be able to control her invisibility.

Actually given that Amber is of personal interest to the MC, it's a fairly easy plot point to have the "good guys" want to send her to Osaka, and the "bad guys" to offer us an alternative to help her, since the game has been heavily hinting at the lines of good and evil are really blurry, and this would lead us down the villain route that is hinted it.
Nah, I think it's the other way around. As the MC is right now, I think it would be extremely out of character for him to not help heal Amber and send her to Osaka instead. That would literally kill her, and it would permanently ruin his relationships with his friends far worse than the "Cursed Dense Jerkwad route" (Forgetting/Ignoring the pact with Evelyn. Yes that's the official name for it. Trust me bro). The MC is naive to a fault, but he's not evil. Opposite in fact, given several characters have mentioned seeing heroic qualities in him.

I have a hard time seeing a "villian route" being a thing because that would be a massive branch. It would force the dev to effectively write two different games and increase the development time tremendously. So I don't think that's going to be a thing. Not impossible I suppose, but unlikely IMO.
 
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