Ren'Py Abandoned Our Bright Days [v0.1.3] [keyclap]

[Adoringfan]

This game probably has the best UI of any game I've seen on the site. The fact that you can add your own playlist and take pictures and add them to a gallery is neat too. I also like how there is a LORE reason for the grammatical errors and stuff, that is pure genius.

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All in all it seems like a pretty solid game. So long as it doesn't go completely off the rails I think it could become something pretty decent.

 

[kuine]

why listen to one person.if its avoidible no problem.develop your game as you want not some 5 minute newbie dictating to you.

I can not confirm this.
Reading through the comments, there is more than one person complaining.

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Great game otherwise. Keep it up

 

[Ukulelele]

Well, guys. I agree that the scene doesn't fit the game.
And honestly, I didn't want to make it look like “rape” intentionally. The whole idea was about making it super interactive, so I could practice animating, liquid simulating and so on. I thought it was a good idea because that way I could show everything I've learned for the past year.

Please, don't make hasty conclusions. It's really heartbreaking to see that all the effort that I put into the game are broken only because of one scene.

Thanks to the guys who cheered me up. You really saved this important day for me. And I'll keep working on the game for you.

 

[ghosthog]

Although I agree with your opinion of the scene, it seems to me that you are exaggerating a lot, yes, the scene is bad but it is completely avoidable, the problem would come here if it were something forced on the player but it is not. Also, in your review you lie (on purpose or not) you say that the incest in the game is bait and that it does not have an incest patch, which is a lie, this game does have a patch and if you play it without that patch, the entire intro of the game does not exists and your family is not your family. so don't confuse people

The problem isn't that there's an avoidable rape scene here.

The problems arise with that scene in this story as advertised though. One it is not advertise or hinted at, at all in the description, the spoiler or the tags. 2) Biggest to me is it doesn't fit the game as written until this point. It is not hinted at anywhere in this slow burn slice of life sunshiny, hand holding and hugging game anywhere until the MC gets in the bathroom alone with a LI and rapes her.

Besides just in fixing advertising and tags for this, it could also be foreshadowed at more in the story or if the world was different or if the MC had some magic/devil whatever affecting him. Here he's just plain buzzed and raping a passed out girl. There are several games on F95 that do rape right. This isn't it.

There are lots of ways the dev could get a sex scene in here without breaking the pacing vs going from 0 to 100 asshole with the MC. They both could have been very drunk and conscious and been somewhat consensual. Could have had a dark dream with her in after the party. Could have had a nice dream with any other LI. Suzy could have taken another drink of liquid courage, kissed MC and maybe given a handjob or blowjob, etc.

Otherwise if we're going this far, have MC go to prison as he should and then have some Optional ass rape scenes on him. Wouldn't be jumping the shark anymore than the rape scene we got here.

 

[Adoringfan]

I mean you could always bandaid the scene and make it a daydream or something? It's pretty common in a lot of games that are a slower burn to have either dream sequences/daydreams that will show off animation and get the checkmark for having a sex scene in your upload without breaking the flow of a story or dramatically altering your characters with little or no explanation. This is also a way of showing people what the MC is thinking about or show internal conflict over dirty thoughts and stuff.

Also in the future you could publish side stories with scenes that don't quite fit in normally go there. Like in Power Vacuum they have their 'What If' side stories and that is where the dev dumps all the ntr stuff. Personally, I thought the game was pretty solid and even from the spanking animations you can tell it's not the basic 2-3 frame jank 'animation' some devs use.

 

[Dogorti]

Yeah maybe putting the scene as a bonus scene or what if is a good idea, in any case don't torture yourself the game is great and at least in my case the scene doesn't ruin the game. keep up the good work

 

[Dogorti]

The problem isn't that there's an avoidable rape scene here.

The problems arise with that scene in this story as advertised though. One it is not advertise or hinted at, at all in the description, the spoiler or the tags. 2) Biggest to me is it doesn't fit the game as written until this point. It is not hinted at anywhere in this slow burn slice of life sunshiny, hand holding and hugging game anywhere until the MC gets in the bathroom alone with a LI and rapes her.

Besides just in fixing advertising and tags for this, it could also be foreshadowed at more in the story or if the world was different or if the MC had some magic/devil whatever affecting him. Here he's just plain buzzed and raping a passed out girl. There are several games on F95 that do rape right. This isn't it.

There are lots of ways the dev could get a sex scene in here without breaking the pacing vs going from 0 to 100 asshole with the MC. They both could have been very drunk and conscious and been somewhat consensual. Could have had a dark dream with her in after the party. Could have had a nice dream with any other LI. Suzy could have taken another drink of liquid courage, kissed MC and maybe given a handjob or blowjob, etc.

Otherwise if we're going this far, have MC go to prison as he should and then have some Optional ass rape scenes on him. Wouldn't be jumping the shark anymore than the rape scene we got here.

Yeah I agree with you on some things, in my case I would have waited to build the relationships with the characters even more and then add a sex scene, but as I said in another comment I understand why the dev did what he did. and I think there is no need to be too harsh with him or say that the game is crap for that scene, after all he is learning it is normal to make mistakes sometimes.

 

[kuine]

Well, guys. I agree that the scene doesn't fit the game.
And honestly, I didn't want to make it look like “rape” intentionally. The whole idea was about making it super interactive, so I could practice animating, liquid simulating and so on. I thought it was a good idea because that way I could show everything I've learned for the past year.

Please, don't make hasty conclusions. It's really heartbreaking to see that all the effort that I put into the game are broken only because of one scene.

Thanks to the guys who cheered me up. You really saved this important day for me. And I'll keep working on the game for you.

Basically, this is your game and you can design it however you want.
But I think it's good that you take constructive criticism to heart and that you deal with it.
But that doesn't mean that you always have to change everything, otherwise the game will never be finished.

As I have already written: I am sure that if you just change a few small scenes, the sex scene can be kept mostly as it is.
All in all, Lucy has to want it too or, if necessary, even be the initiator.

As i already wrote: it is a great game and has an extremely high quality and fantastic renders.
Keep your head up: we all learn new things every day. The important thing is not to lose sight of your goal.

 

[Deleted member 12408]

God… so much whining because of one avoidable scene. The game has dark paths and is not only about holding hands and kissing awkwardly. What a shock.

Will you blame yourself now for the rest of your life for raping an innocent girl even when the game warned you that you could still step back or proceed, and your choice would be remembered by the game? How does it feel to step over your own morals?

 

[holaje12]

Well, guys. I agree that the scene doesn't fit the game.
And honestly, I didn't want to make it look like “rape” intentionally. The whole idea was about making it super interactive, so I could practice animating, liquid simulating and so on. I thought it was a good idea because that way I could show everything I've learned for the past year.

Please, don't make hasty conclusions. It's really heartbreaking to see that all the effort that I put into the game are broken only because of one scene.

Thanks to the guys who cheered me up. You really saved this important day for me. And I'll keep working on the game for you.

Just leave it as it is, this shit is so overblown. Its like sleep sex scenes in other games, some people dont like them and cry about it, but nothing really needs to change. Are you really going to remove such a well made scene because of that? or change it into a stupid "dream" or some "wHaT If" bullshit? lmao. Thats the worst you could do.
It is optional, leave it there for the people who want to play it and keep going with the game, once there is more content the whiners will forget about it.
Hell, I even missed the scene and didnt even notice (there are some conditions you need to fulfill apparently), so it is not on the nose or anything and even if you meet those conditions by mistake you can always choose to stop it before anything happens.
When the game tells you that you missed the scene and gives you the option of watching it, you should put a warning there that it is rape. That's all. The scene itself is pretty hot and very well made, the characters act more fucked up than usual but being drunk is a good enough excuse for that in a porn game. And personally, I did like it.

 

[Dogorti]

God… so much whining because of one avoidable scene. The game has dark paths and is not only about holding hands and kissing awkwardly. What a shock.

Will you blame yourself now for the rest of your life for raping an innocent girl even when the game warned you that you could still step back or proceed, and your choice would be remembered by the game? How does it feel to step over your own morals?

the problem is that it is not a dark path (said by the dev himself that he had no intention of making a rapey scene) it is a scene that is only there, if there was a dark path it would be interesting as I already said in another comment but it doesn't seem that It's going to be like that, anyway it's an avoidable scene so there shouldn't be so much fuss but that's f95zone

 

[Dogorti]

Some people are confusing things. Criticism is always fine if it's constructive and doesn't have personal attacks, the problem is that there are some users who throw childish tantrums and make any serious criticism be seen as a complaint, unfortunately that's the way this forum is (and life) but I think people can give their opinion of something they don't like about the game and there should be no problem as long as that criticism helps of course

 

[holaje12]

Anyway, I hope you dont get bullied into deleting an optional scene.... and if you are going to change it somehow into being more consensual, at least keep the rough sex aspect of it with the spanking and the no-lube anal. Dont make it a boring vanilla scene, they are both drunk and having sex in the bathroom for fucks sake, while the other girls are still around. The scene should be kinky, you can leave the love dovey scenes for when they are sober. Having Lucy's sister on the other side of the door while MC fucks her was really hot, hopefully you keep that as well.

Some people are confusing things. Criticism is always fine if it's constructive and doesn't have personal attacks, the problem is that there are some users who throw childish tantrums and make any serious criticism be seen as a complaint, unfortunately that's the way this forum is (and life) but I think people can give their opinion of something they don't like about the game and there should be no problem as long as that criticism helps of course

when people start review bombing a game with 1-2 stars for a single optional scene it stops being some mere criticism

 

[stinkholeslammer]

Well, guys. I agree that the scene doesn't fit the game.
And honestly, I didn't want to make it look like “rape” intentionally. The whole idea was about making it super interactive, so I could practice animating, liquid simulating and so on. I thought it was a good idea because that way I could show everything I've learned for the past year.

Please, don't make hasty conclusions. It's really heartbreaking to see that all the effort that I put into the game are broken only because of one scene.

Thanks to the guys who cheered me up. You really saved this important day for me. And I'll keep working on the game for you.

It's a good scene, just needs a small rework imo, make her wake up and say fuck me or something. At no point does she say anything and homie just sticks his dick in. People have drunken sex they regret all the time, probably a better angle than surprise rape.

People care because you made a good game with a good story that people are involved in. If I'm not invested in characters at all I don't give a shit what happens, but the dialogue is good, the characters are good, and the tone is fun, so mc just raping this drunk girl feels very off and weird from the rest of the game.

 

[Dogorti]

when people start review bombing a game with 1-2 stars for a single optional scene it stops being some mere criticism

Yeah.... that's kinda what i say

 

[loveslgame]

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[rspkers]

Well, guys. I agree that the scene doesn't fit the game.
And honestly, I didn't want to make it look like “rape” intentionally. The whole idea was about making it super interactive, so I could practice animating, liquid simulating and so on. I thought it was a good idea because that way I could show everything I've learned for the past year.

Please, don't make hasty conclusions. It's really heartbreaking to see that all the effort that I put into the game are broken only because of one scene.

Thanks to the guys who cheered me up. You really saved this important day for me. And I'll keep working on the game for you.

Seriously, I don't think your average player here is self-aware enough to have any understanding of personal agency. They experience some slight cognitive dissonance, and then proceed to convince themselves that what they willingly did themselves is somehow your fault.

Out of character? Doesn't "fit" into the game? Give me a break. It's optional. You control what the MC does. You are the character. You could have walked away. You had checkpoint after checkpoint asking if you were sure. You literally had to click on "insert dick" and you did it anyway. YOU, as a player, are the rapist, not the MC. This is not a rape game, if you don't want it to be. That's literally what optional content means. It's entirely your choice what type of role you want to play in this game.

Additionally, the reviews that give you low scores that focus specifically on this optional scene are actually breaking the review policy: "Your review shouldn't be solely focused on your feelings about a specific genre or detail of the game." It's rule #5. Which is what these reviews are clearly doing, and this is a general rule. It's even more ridiculous when it's in response to optional content. People should report these reviews.

Wait for content you like instead of trying to get optional content you don't like removed. There are actually people here telling the dev to alter the optional content and change it to something they like instead. Pure selfish narcissism. You are trying to gaslight the dev into thinking your "constructive criticism" is helping them, when in reality you just want to influence the direction of the game to not include rape. You don't actually care if it's optional.

LaUwUrence It's your game, and you shouldn't feel pressured by bad faith actors to change it, unless you actually want to. Period. If it's optional, people can disagree about it, like they are in this thread, and like in any other game, but they should not be able to ruin your games review rating and visibility on this site with 1-2 star review bombs as a result of optional and clearly telegraphed choices that they made themselves.

 

[ghosthog]

Gotta love the crying and name calling by those defending the rape scene against those that offered valid criticism. Either they have extremely poor reading comprehension to understand context or they're just trolls who use name calling instead of logical arguments. Kinda funny how they're upset that there's critical review bombing by review bombing with positive but shallow reviews.

This isn’t a minor flaw of the game. It’s a major one, in advertising and/or plot development, whether optional or not. Almost everyone offering criticism on this has given suggestions on ways it could be addressed, some very simple.

The closest analogy I can come up with off the top of my head is going to a movie that’s advertised as a romcom. The first ¾ of the movie it plays as a romcom. Then the audience is given a choice, not to choose LI 1 or 2 but, keep story as is or turn it into a slasher/horror movie. Almost every film critic of that movie would give it a low score no matter how well it was done until that point because it’s such a discordant choice/turning point.

 

[rspkers]

Gotta love the crying and name calling by those defending the rape scene against those that offered valid criticism. Either they have extremely poor reading comprehension to understand context or they're just trolls who use name calling instead of logical arguments. Kinda funny how they're upset that there's critical review bombing by review bombing with positive but shallow reviews.

This isn’t a minor flaw of the game. It’s a major one, in advertising and/or plot development, whether optional or not. Almost everyone offering criticism on this has given suggestions on ways it could be addressed, some very simple.

The closest analogy I can come up with off the top of my head is going to a movie that’s advertised as a romcom. The first ¾ of the movie it plays as a romcom. Then the audience is given a choice, not to choose LI 1 or 2 but, keep story as is or turn it into a slasher/horror movie. Almost every film critic of that movie would give it a low score no matter how well it was done until that point because it’s such a discordant choice/turning point.

Amusing, because you're the one that's crying over optional content and review bombed the entire game with a 2 star rating as a result. You spank the LI's, you can try to grab the ass of someone you just met, you can try to kiss them, and you spy on a couple fucking behind a house. There's many instances that dictate that this isn't some sunshine and roses game. And since you chose to rape the character, that makes you the rapist, not the MC.

Furthermore, your analogy is shit because movies are linear, and don't offer the viewer choices on what they want the movie to be. You chose for it to be a rape game by raping. You could have kept it a romcom by not raping. It's that simple.

 

[Dogorti]

It is completely ridiculous and unacceptable that the reviews have turned into this and I mean it for both sides. When you review bombing a game, the only thing you achieve is to confuse people and inflate or deflate a game, it is not fair to anyone, much less to the creator

it happens a lot with the reviews on this site i have played 3 star games which are a 5 and 5 star games which are a 3 there has to be some way to regulate this and mods should do something

that's the bad thing about reviewing a game so early in its development or giving a game two stars just because you don't like the way the dev is or because you can't edit anything in renpy. It's not serious