VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12.3 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[_Zebra_]

...and doesn't engage in criminal activities.

That we know of. I always thought that there are some small hints that Ivy has some other means of making money, beside the obvious ones. She rents an apartment by herself, she has a Bentley Continental Roadster, she buys expensive dresses, already got breast implants and she is using drugs. All those cost money and I find it hard to believe that a brand new Stalkfap account can cover all that. Not even Lena is sure how she does it.

"Ivy picked up the dress, a pair of high heels, and even some jewelry and disappeared into the fitting room."
"I had never seen Ivy dressed like that. In fact, I had never seen any of my friends dressed like that..."
l "When do you intend to wear this, exactly?"
v "I don't know, I can put it on any night at the club. Or maybe when I get invited to cocktail parties and snobby events..."
l "Since when do you attend cocktail parties and snobby events?"
v "I don't attend those yet, but I will soon, I know it! I have a bright future before me!"
...
l "So you're gonna really buy it?"
v "Why do you think I made you come all this way? Of course I'm buying it!"
v "Shoes, bag, and necklace included!"
"She did indeed buy all those things..."
"I saw the check... What Ivy just bought was worth more than an entire month's rent."
...
l "You have an apartment all for yourself, you can afford to buy expensive clothes and you even got a car!"
l "How do you do it? I can't seem to get any real money from Stalkfap..."
v "It's not just Stalkfap. There's also the pole dancing classes, the gig at Blazer, the occasional photo shoot..."
l "I don't know how lucrative the gogo dancer job is, but I know being a gym instructor and occasional photo shoots don't pay {i}that{/i} much."
v "Well, yeah, you're right. Most of my income comes from Stalkfap, but every bit helps!"

Lena managed to buy a similar dress only after Seymour offered her money. Also at one point, Jessica mentioned that Ivy reminds her of the GGGB Jessica - you know, the I am going to suck you off for some cocaine, I am going to fuck on camera, be an escort and do porn kind of Jessica. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if we learn that from time to time, Ivy sleeps with some generous business men.

Also, I don't know if this was done on purpose, but did anyone else noticed that Lena never talked with Ivy about Seymour. Not once did she said: "Hey Ivy, there is this old rich guy that calls me doll every now and then. Oh, by the way, he wants to be my daddy/patreon and all I have to do is to masturbate in front of him and be a good little slut for him. Should I do it?".

I think Ivy will definitely be interested in Ian, who is successful in MMA.

Just a theory, but considering that Lena proposed to try a FMF threesome with Ian in the prologue, I think there is a good chance that she will ask Ivy to do it. Or at least, she will be on the list of possible candidates. Fingered crossed that there will be some Lena-Ian-Ivy action in chapter 11.

 

[ffive]

Nah, I ll wait till final version of prologe and maybe it will be changed otherwise I ll use consolde command. Don't have saves from ch9 and not willing to play all paths again

Yeah, if you don't have a save from later point, but have access to the console, then setting it manually is probably your fastest option. Type
stan_change = 2
before morning conversation with Stan happens, and you should be good to go.

 

[lucadiadis]

That we know of. I always thought that there are some small hints that Ivy has some other means of making money, beside the obvious ones. She rents an apartment by herself, she has a Bentley Continental Roadster, she buys expensive dresses, already got breast implants and she is using drugs. All those cost money and I find it hard to believe that a brand new Stalkfap account can cover all that. Not even Lena is sure how she does it.

"Ivy picked up the dress, a pair of high heels, and even some jewelry and disappeared into the fitting room."
"I had never seen Ivy dressed like that. In fact, I had never seen any of my friends dressed like that..."
l "When do you intend to wear this, exactly?"
v "I don't know, I can put it on any night at the club. Or maybe when I get invited to cocktail parties and snobby events..."
l "Since when do you attend cocktail parties and snobby events?"
v "I don't attend those yet, but I will soon, I know it! I have a bright future before me!"
...
l "So you're gonna really buy it?"
v "Why do you think I made you come all this way? Of course I'm buying it!"
v "Shoes, bag, and necklace included!"
"She did indeed buy all those things..."
"I saw the check... What Ivy just bought was worth more than an entire month's rent."
...
l "You have an apartment all for yourself, you can afford to buy expensive clothes and you even got a car!"
l "How do you do it? I can't seem to get any real money from Stalkfap..."
v "It's not just Stalkfap. There's also the pole dancing classes, the gig at Blazer, the occasional photo shoot..."
l "I don't know how lucrative the gogo dancer job is, but I know being a gym instructor and occasional photo shoots don't pay {i}that{/i} much."
v "Well, yeah, you're right. Most of my income comes from Stalkfap, but every bit helps!"

Lena managed to buy a similar dress only after Seymour offered her money. Also at one point, Jessica mentioned that Ivy reminds her of the GGGB Jessica - you know, the I am going to suck you off for some cocaine, I am going to fuck on camera, be an escort and do porn kind of Jessica. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if we learn that from time to time, Ivy sleeps with some generous business men.

Also, I don't know if this was done on purpose, but did anyone else noticed that Lena never talked with Ivy about Seymour. Not once did she said: "Hey Ivy, there is this old rich guy that calls me doll every now and then. Oh, by the way, he wants to be my daddy/patreon and all I have to do is to masturbate in front of him and be a good little slut for him. Should I do it?".


Just a theory, but considering that Lena proposed to try a FMF threesome with Ian in the prologue, I think there is a good chance that she will ask Ivy to do it. Or at least, she will be on the list of possible candidates. Fingered crossed that there will be some Lena-Ian-Ivy action in chapter 11.

Lena says we could BOTH experiment as long as we do it together. I do hope an MFM option will be there too in ch11.

 

[ffive]

All those cost money and I find it hard to believe that a brand new Stalkfap account can cover all that.

From Ch.10 conversation with Lena it seems that bulk of Ivy's earnings comes from doing private videos for her Stalkfap viewers. Given Ivy has been doing that quite longer than Lena (it's Lena's Stalkfap that's brand new, not necessarily Ivy's) i don't find it all that unusual. The very reason girls in porn games get in doing porn is because it's good money.

(as for the car, we've seen it in GGGB already. It's not that expensive and iirc it can come with a solid discount if one is willing to suck some dick to get it)

 

[_Zebra_]

Lena says we could BOTH experiment as long as we do it together. I do hope an MFM option will be there too in ch11.

I hear you, but

l "What about your sexual fantasy...?"
i "My sexual fantasy?"
l "You told us about it at Ivy's party. About the threesome."
i "Oh, that... Well, as I said, it's a fantasy almost every straight guy has. Does it bother you?"

    "{image=icon_lust.webp}We could give it a try":
    l "Actually... I was thinking we could give a try."
    i "What, really?"
    if ian_lena_couple:
        if ian_lena_open:   
            l "I mean... We said we'd like to experiment together, right?"
            i "That's true, we said something like that..."
        else:
            l "I mean... Why not? I think we could both experiment, as long as we do it together..."
            i "Well, I'm not against that..."
    ...

    "Not my thing":
    l "Honestly... I don't think it's my thing."
    i "Really? But didn't you have the same fantasy...?"
    l "It's just that, a fantasy... It would be weird doing something like that with you..."
    i "Oh. I see."
    ...
    l "But if it were you and another guy..."
    $ fian = "disgusted"
    i "What, really?"
    l "It's just a thought..."
    i "..."

Important part here: Ian disgusted face at the end. Lena started the talk and it was about Ian's fantasy, not hers. It will most likely be FMF first and after that you either fight with Lena, happily accept a MFM or reluctantly accept a MFM. I also assume that the MFM will be different based on the ian_cuck variable.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

That we know of. I always thought that there are some small hints that Ivy has some other means of making money, beside the obvious ones. She rents an apartment by herself, she has a Bentley Continental Roadster, she buys expensive dresses, already got breast implants and she is using drugs. All those cost money and I find it hard to believe that a brand new Stalkfap account can cover all that. Not even Lena is sure how she does it.

"Ivy picked up the dress, a pair of high heels, and even some jewelry and disappeared into the fitting room."
"I had never seen Ivy dressed like that. In fact, I had never seen any of my friends dressed like that..."
l "When do you intend to wear this, exactly?"
v "I don't know, I can put it on any night at the club. Or maybe when I get invited to cocktail parties and snobby events..."
l "Since when do you attend cocktail parties and snobby events?"
v "I don't attend those yet, but I will soon, I know it! I have a bright future before me!"
...
l "So you're gonna really buy it?"
v "Why do you think I made you come all this way? Of course I'm buying it!"
v "Shoes, bag, and necklace included!"
"She did indeed buy all those things..."
"I saw the check... What Ivy just bought was worth more than an entire month's rent."
...
l "You have an apartment all for yourself, you can afford to buy expensive clothes and you even got a car!"
l "How do you do it? I can't seem to get any real money from Stalkfap..."
v "It's not just Stalkfap. There's also the pole dancing classes, the gig at Blazer, the occasional photo shoot..."
l "I don't know how lucrative the gogo dancer job is, but I know being a gym instructor and occasional photo shoots don't pay {i}that{/i} much."
v "Well, yeah, you're right. Most of my income comes from Stalkfap, but every bit helps!"

Lena managed to buy a similar dress only after Seymour offered her money. Also at one point, Jessica mentioned that Ivy reminds her of the GGGB Jessica - you know, the I am going to suck you off for some cocaine, I am going to fuck on camera, be an escort and do porn kind of Jessica. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if we learn that from time to time, Ivy sleeps with some generous business men.

Also, I don't know if this was done on purpose, but did anyone else noticed that Lena never talked with Ivy about Seymour. Not once did she said: "Hey Ivy, there is this old rich guy that calls me doll every now and then. Oh, by the way, he wants to be my daddy/patreon and all I have to do is to masturbate in front of him and be a good little slut for him. Should I do it?".

It's possible that Ivy works as an escort, has a patron, but I don't think there's anything illegal like drug dealing or worse.
But if you listen to her say that Stalkfap brings in most of the income, maybe Ivy is telling the truth. We understand that Stalkfap is Onlyfans and some girls there make millions a year. Judging by the content that Ivy posts, she has a lot of subscribers.

Just a theory, but considering that Lena proposed to try a FMF threesome with Ian in the prologue, I think there is a good chance that she will ask Ivy to do it. Or at least, she will be on the list of possible candidates. Fingered crossed that there will be some Lena-Ian-Ivy action in chapter 11.

I hope it will be Lena/Ivy/Ian.
Because there is no desire to do this with Louise, then she will have senseless claims and tantrums towards Ian.

 

[_Zebra_]

From Ch.10 conversation with Lena it seems that bulk of Ivy's earnings comes from doing private videos for her Stalkfap viewers. Given Ivy has been doing that quite longer than Lena (it's Lena's Stalkfap that's brand new, not necessarily Ivy's) i don't find it all that unusual. The very reason girls in porn games get in doing porn is because it's good money.

(as for the car, we've seen it in GGGB already. It's not that expensive and iirc it can come with a solid discount if one is willing to suck some dick to get it)

From chapter 2:

l "Stalkfap? What's this?"
v "It's a new social media platform for girls like us..."
l "Looks similar to Peoplegram..."
v "The basic gist is the same, but here people subscribe for a monthly fee if they want to have access to your content."
v "And what you give them is, of course..."
"Ivy swiped down."
l "So you're uploading your uncensored photo shoots?"
v "Yeah. Peoplegram doesn't allow explicit content, so if I did that, they would delete my account..."
v "But that's what people really wanna see. And they'll pay good money for that!"

v "I've been using it only for a week, but I'm already making some money..."

A week and a few days longer. Probably not enough time to get in the top 10% of high earning girls. Now, I don't want to say that it is not possible for Ivy to get all her money from Stalkfap, but I think is hard to deny that maybe, just maybe, she does something else too.

 

[ffive]

Important part here: Ian disgusted face at the end. Lena started the talk and it was about Ian's fantasy, not hers. It will most likely be FMF first and after that you either fight with Lena, happily accept a MFM or reluctantly accept a MFM. I also assume that the MFM will be different based on the ian_cuck variable.

I imagine Ian's acceptance for MFM action may be influenced by who is the dominant person in the pairing (Lena can exercise a bit of it in the Ch.11 prologue, while Ian has his own variable reflecting his attitude) Plus, he can take part in action with Alison and Jeremy, so it's not like he's entirely against it.

 

[lucadiadis]

I hear you, but

l "What about your sexual fantasy...?"
i "My sexual fantasy?"
l "You told us about it at Ivy's party. About the threesome."
i "Oh, that... Well, as I said, it's a fantasy almost every straight guy has. Does it bother you?"

    "{image=icon_lust.webp}We could give it a try":
    l "Actually... I was thinking we could give a try."
    i "What, really?"
    if ian_lena_couple:
        if ian_lena_open:  
            l "I mean... We said we'd like to experiment together, right?"
            i "That's true, we said something like that..."
        else:
            l "I mean... Why not? I think we could both experiment, as long as we do it together..."
            i "Well, I'm not against that..."
    ...

    "Not my thing":
    l "Honestly... I don't think it's my thing."
    i "Really? But didn't you have the same fantasy...?"
    l "It's just that, a fantasy... It would be weird doing something like that with you..."
    i "Oh. I see."
    ...
    l "But if it were you and another guy..."
    $ fian = "disgusted"
    i "What, really?"
    l "It's just a thought..."
    i "..."

Important part here: Ian disgusted face at the end. Lena started the talk and it was about Ian's fantasy, not hers. It will most likely be FMF first and after that you either fight with Lena, happily accept a MFM or reluctantly accept a MFM. I also assume that the MFM will be different based on the ian_cuck variable.

You definitely have a point, but I sure hope you are wrong.

 

[ffive]

Because there is no desire to do this with Louise, then she will have senseless claims and tantrums towards Ian.

That's one way to have Louise get over it, though -- Lena will imprint on her she is a toy for both Lena and her boyfriend

(alternatively, Lena who denied Ian sex might make these two fuck for her entertainment. Possibilities are quite endless)

 

[lucadiadis]

It's possible that Ivy works as an escort, has a patron, but I don't think there's anything illegal like drug dealing or worse.
But if you listen to her say that Stalkfap brings in most of the income, maybe Ivy is telling the truth. We understand that Stalkfap is Onlyfans and some girls there make millions a year. Judging by the content that Ivy posts, she has a lot of subscribers.

I hope it will be Lena/Ivy/Ian.
Because there is no desire to do this with Louise, then she will have senseless claims and tantrums towards Ian.

For an MFF my favorite candidate, though unlikely, is Alison, just because she is physically my favorite girl after Lena.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

That's one way to have Louise get over it, though -- Lena will imprint on her she is a toy for both Lena and her boyfriend

(alternatively, Lena who denied Ian sex might make these two fuck for her entertainment. Possibilities are quite endless)

Louise is good at one thing, she's a good slave on a leash.

For an MFF my favorite candidate, though unlikely, is Alison, just because she is physically my favorite girl after Lena.

Meh...I don't like her. Pretty boring and basic, at 28 she looks like a typical Milf, often unhappy, whining and imposing on Ian all the time even though I showed her that I was not interested in her.

 

[Deleted member 1044747]

It's been a while since I last read / played Our Red String.

Some - in my opinion - rather questionable design choices (that weird "acid trip" - which admittedly was quite creative / funny by itself but still stuck out like a sore thumb from the rest of the story, Lena's awful looking ahegao faces, new Stan, the announcement of new Emma) left me worried about the direction of this visual novel, so I took a break from it.

I remember that in one of my playthroughs I tried for Ian to become close friends with Cindy, hoping that at one point she would break up with Wade to give us the opportunity to pursue her without cheating.

Unfortunately, this wasn't possible in the last version before I took a break - up to a certain point you could be(come) a close friend, but then you had to either pursue her (and cheat on Wade) or stop pursuing her altogether.

I like the idea of Ian be(com)ing Cindy's supportive friend, her breaking up with Wade and only then realising that Ian is all she's looking for in a guy - so, basically, a romantic Ian x Cindy route which doesn't require cheating.

Any chance Eva Kiss added this (optional, of course) route in one of the recent updates?

 

[ffive]

I like the idea of Ian be(com)ing Cindy's supportive friend, her breaking up with Wade and only then realising that Ian is all she's looking for in a guy - so, basically, a romantic Ian x Cindy route which doesn't require cheating.

Any chance @Eva Kiss added this (optional, of course) route in one of the recent updates?

No one but Eva knows this, so no one is able to really answer this. I'd imagine there's a chance for such "late entry" for Cindy and Ian who, e.g. only kissed and stopped things there. But currently the only way for them to enter a love route is through starting an affair.

 

[Doppelgang]

It's been a while since I last read / played Our Red String.

Some - in my opinion - rather questionable design choices (that weird "acid trip" - which admittedly was quite creative / funny by itself but still stuck out like a sore thumb from the rest of the story, Lena's awful looking ahegao faces, new Stan, the announcement of new Emma) left me worried about the direction of this visual novel, so I took a break from it.

I remember that in one of my playthroughs I tried for Ian to become close friends with Cindy, hoping that at one point she would break up with Wade to give us the opportunity to pursue her without cheating.

Unfortunately, this wasn't possible in the last version before I took a break - up to a certain point you could be(come) a close friend, but then you had to either pursue her (and cheat on Wade) or stop pursuing her altogether.

I like the idea of Ian be(com)ing Cindy's supportive friend, her breaking up with Wade and only then realising that Ian is all she's looking for in a guy - so, basically, a romantic Ian x Cindy route which doesn't require cheating.

Any chance Eva Kiss added this (optional, of course) route in one of the recent updates?

The ahegao faces were toned down in the final version of that chapter, and Emma is the same as she’s always been—I think you might be thinking of that one sneak peek where she had extremely toned abs. Eva got the colourist to adjust it once people commented on it, and I don’t think it ever was the intention to change her, it was just one inconsistent illustration (that didn’t even make it to the alpha release).

To add to ffive’s answer: Nothing’s been changed about the early Ian and Cindy interactions. I’ve tried to play Ian the same way a few times, as a supportive friend without getting her to stay with Wade. That’s hard to do without drooling over her naked body at photoshoots, as a minimum.

But in the latest update Wade and Cindy are on a break regardless of what’s happened until then (with some variations in how definite that break sounds—we’ve only heard Wade’s version). That might give an option to soon sweep in and pursue her without cheating. But in that scenario you’re already either further involved with her have had to take a step back, meaning Cindy’s probably more interested in Axel that Ian. So I wouldn’t guarantee it.

 

[fatpussy123]

Ok so I checked the differences between Wade's description of the break with Cindy. I used my playthroughs, one with Cindy romance and one in which I tried to keep them together. In the former, Wade says they haven't been seeing eye to eye and in the latter he says she has been feeling disorientated, I don't know if there are more option past these two.

One thing I noticed was with the Cindy romance route Ian is not present during the discussion and only shows up after. Perry says Ian said he had to take care of something and Ian says he had to handle something from work. Why wouldn't he have the same issue in a non-Cindy playthrough? My theory is after the Gillian scene where it cuts to the chapter 11 title card, the clock will move back and we will start chapter 11 playing as Ian. Notably there is over a week timeskip between Lena clubbing and all the content released for the prologue. In that time I think we will see the break-up of Wade and Cindy (or at least Wade telling Ian about it) and a scene with Cindy right before Ian shows up at the Gillian event scene.

Then once the time is caught up to Ian seeing Gillian we will play that scene from Ian's perspective and probably have dialogue option controlling how he reacts.

 

[Deleted member 1044747]

Thanks for the replies and updated infos, guys.

It's good to hear that Eva Kiss reacts to constructive criticism.

I think you might be thinking of that one sneak peek where she had extremely toned abs.

Yeah - not sure if it was just that particular sneak peek or additional infos, but back then I was really worried that Eva Kiss would suddenly turn Emma from this relaxed and slightly chubby alternative girl into a gym queen.

As you can see I'm a bit out of the loop regarding Our Red String.

That’s hard to do without drooling over her naked body at photoshoots, as a minimum.

What? No! Of course my Ian never had such ulterior motives - he was only there to... uhm... support her in trying times!

That might give an option to soon sweep in and pursue her without cheating.

Yeah, hopefully. We'll see.

 

[ffive]

I’ve tried to play Ian the same way a few times, as a supportive friend without getting her to stay with Wade. That’s hard to do without drooling over her naked body at photoshoots, as a minimum.

I think the drooling can be excused. I mean, even as a friend one would have to be completely devoid of pulse to refrain from it.

 

[Mythos079]

Nah, I ll wait till final version of prologue and maybe it will be changed otherwise I ll use consolde command. Don't have saves from ch9 and not willing to play all paths again

Well, you only need a save just around Ivy's birthday party, cause the dialogue which set that variable is just after it. I don't think is such a big deal, given it's toward the end of chapter 10.

 

[Rome5555555]

Are you fucking serious ?

Maybe it's better to replay the whole game 3 times at once?